DP on the way
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Many people can get the effect they desire by lowering T levels instead of going full castrate level. You may find the relief you seek at the 3 or 4 week level. You can always adjust the timing of the next shot depending on how you feel.
I took two 150mg injections last saturday and plan on another one in two weeks. I have not noticed anything except I quit having morning erections.
I took two 150mg injections last saturday and plan on another one in two weeks. I have not noticed anything except I quit having morning erections.
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ramses (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:54 am Many people can get the effect they desire by lowering T levels instead of going full castrate level. You may find the relief you seek at the 3 or 4 week level. You can always adjust the timing of the next shot depending on how you feel.
I took two 150mg injections last saturday and plan on another one in two weeks. I have not noticed anything except I quit having morning erections.
I spoke to Jesus at the mom and told him my theory that we are not "capable" of seeing the changes hormones do to us very easily. Whatever and wherever we land it seems "normal." Speak to your wife and get some outside looking in feedback. I think you will surprised!
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She will not hesitate to tell me if I'm being a prick. Over all, I feel pretty good and have a positive outlook on life. I'm just hoping a hurricane doesn't hit because I'll be involved for at least 30 days if we get a good hit...
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I was feeling very horny on Monday and Tuesday (balls and penis throbbing - wanting to make passes at strange women, etc.), so I called the urologist and asked what he thought of me taking a second shot. He was good with it, so I took a second 150mg injection on day five. It's now day nine.
I should interject here that because of a project at work, I pulled an almost all-nighter on Wednesday/Thursday. I went home at 5:50AM and was back at work at 7:50AM. I went home a little early - around 4:00 PM - and tried to get some sleep, but my kids kept waking me up.
My wife and I had intercourse last night. She got me errect manually, then I went down on her and my errection fluctuated during, and then we had intercourse and I came relatively quickly. The orgasm felt like normal.
This morning I intended to get up and go running, but I just didn't have much get up and go. I finally got out to run about 9:50, but by then it was hotter than blazes, at least that was my perception. The reality was it was in the low 80's and humid, but I felt very hot, when the wind wasn't on me. I intended to run 5 miles, had difficulty doing 3. I've been really dragging today. I can't really say if it's the DP or the fact that am still paying for the all-nighter. I'll have to wait and see.
I can say that I noticed today that I felt no compulsion to check out the babes as I went shopping with the fam. It was easy to ignore them. If I browse to a pornographic image, however, I still find it stimulating, although it's no trick to stop.
I haven't noticed morning errections the past few days, but again, I don't know if its the DP or the lack of sleep.
I should interject here that because of a project at work, I pulled an almost all-nighter on Wednesday/Thursday. I went home at 5:50AM and was back at work at 7:50AM. I went home a little early - around 4:00 PM - and tried to get some sleep, but my kids kept waking me up.
My wife and I had intercourse last night. She got me errect manually, then I went down on her and my errection fluctuated during, and then we had intercourse and I came relatively quickly. The orgasm felt like normal.
This morning I intended to get up and go running, but I just didn't have much get up and go. I finally got out to run about 9:50, but by then it was hotter than blazes, at least that was my perception. The reality was it was in the low 80's and humid, but I felt very hot, when the wind wasn't on me. I intended to run 5 miles, had difficulty doing 3. I've been really dragging today. I can't really say if it's the DP or the fact that am still paying for the all-nighter. I'll have to wait and see.
I can say that I noticed today that I felt no compulsion to check out the babes as I went shopping with the fam. It was easy to ignore them. If I browse to a pornographic image, however, I still find it stimulating, although it's no trick to stop.
I haven't noticed morning errections the past few days, but again, I don't know if its the DP or the lack of sleep.
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In my experience hormonal changes are subtle to the person having them. "we" perceve everything as normal because the hormones are what wires us to operate. *Ok, this is MY take on this. Someone with more academic background should probably jump in now and tell me how I'm an idiot.
Your lack of "Jump outa bed" and start running. You loss of ability to complete your 5 mile run. Is that couch and watching TV starting to look better? This is one symtom I had.
This lack of interest in generic women that walk by. While anything is possible I think this is a clear indication that your testosterone levels are sinking. The fact that your wife had to manualy stimulate you to erection. *Unless this is normal? Another clear indication.
That vrs spontanious erections is another sign.
Orgasm feels the same. Ok, but did you (do you) feel an urge to have it? Or was it a "very nice" climax? When sexual release feels "nice" then you know you are tanking. If the Urge/desire/drive to have sex is missing? Then your testosteorne levels have changed. Soon your going to start thinking how much "trouble" it is to have sex. All the effort to please her and the minor benifit of a orgasm to you. Sleep will seem much more "vital" and you may even start to be put off by her wanting sex. The concept that you will do this so infrequently that SHE has to initiate won't seem odd by the way until she gets really angry.
On the flip side if you were to go from low to normal hromone levels sexual climax won't feel "nice" anymore. There is not correct word for it other then beyond great.
And your interest in it will not be so simple. It will be a wired in drive. Like needing to eat or breath.
Other things change but perhapes not as quickly. Anxiety. Did you turn this off? What about the bills? Who locked the door? Will you have enough time to do this? Mood swings. Many new and odd things may make you mad. Your wife will start to see you are really different. And while it might be an improvment it will be different.
Your lack of "Jump outa bed" and start running. You loss of ability to complete your 5 mile run. Is that couch and watching TV starting to look better? This is one symtom I had.
This lack of interest in generic women that walk by. While anything is possible I think this is a clear indication that your testosterone levels are sinking. The fact that your wife had to manualy stimulate you to erection. *Unless this is normal? Another clear indication.
That vrs spontanious erections is another sign.
Orgasm feels the same. Ok, but did you (do you) feel an urge to have it? Or was it a "very nice" climax? When sexual release feels "nice" then you know you are tanking. If the Urge/desire/drive to have sex is missing? Then your testosteorne levels have changed. Soon your going to start thinking how much "trouble" it is to have sex. All the effort to please her and the minor benifit of a orgasm to you. Sleep will seem much more "vital" and you may even start to be put off by her wanting sex. The concept that you will do this so infrequently that SHE has to initiate won't seem odd by the way until she gets really angry.
On the flip side if you were to go from low to normal hromone levels sexual climax won't feel "nice" anymore. There is not correct word for it other then beyond great.
Other things change but perhapes not as quickly. Anxiety. Did you turn this off? What about the bills? Who locked the door? Will you have enough time to do this? Mood swings. Many new and odd things may make you mad. Your wife will start to see you are really different. And while it might be an improvment it will be different.
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mrt (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:44 am Your lack of "Jump outa bed" and start running. You loss of ability to complete your 5 mile run. Is that couch and watching TV starting to look better? This is one symtom I had.
This lack of interest in generic women that walk by. While anything is possible I think this is a clear indication that your testosterone levels are sinking. The fact that your wife had to manualy stimulate you to erection. *Unless this is normal? Another clear indication.
Well after another day of normal sleep, things have evened out a bit more. I ran three miles on Sunday AM with no difficulty, and my energy levels are where I remember them. Women are more noticible today as well.
Also, I didn't say that my wife had to get me errect, just that she did. She was curious whether I would get errect. Since it was the first thing we did in bed, it's hard to say (no pun intended) if it was needed.
I'll probably take another 150mg injection on Thursday, day 15.
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I'm going repeat some things that I've written elsewhere for the anyone who may read this thread later on. I'm 6' tall and 174lb and when I began my errect penis was 6.25" x 5", and my testicles both measured about 1.675" long and 1" in diameter.
At this point my morning errections were gone, although I have noticed that my penis is less flaccid in the morning than at other times during the day. Except in the morning it is very compact now. My wife and I had a quickie on Tuesday night. It wasn't very difficult to get errect. I was very horny because I had been looking at some soft core porn. I am still drawn to pretty women, but I'm not interested in the hard core stuff at this point. I can manually stimulate myself, but unless there's visual stimulation accompanying I'm basically ready to cum by the time my penis begins to firm up. My errections even when I'm inside my wife do not feel as full as before. My desire for sex has decreased somewhat. I could take it or leave it much more easily.
I do notice that I'm warmer sleeping at night and that I wake up on my own around 5:30 to 6:30AM, I don't know if that's an indication that I'm sleeping worse. I don't feel anymore tired. My energy for running seems to be steady. I've actually dropped a pound since I started. And the acne I mentioned has cleared up with nothing more.
I took my third 150mg injection this morning. The injection site is not as sore as before, but I rubbed it for about a minute afterward. I'm hoping the desire for softcore will drop off soon and I'll have no difficulty keeping my eyes to myself. I'll keep you updated.
At this point my morning errections were gone, although I have noticed that my penis is less flaccid in the morning than at other times during the day. Except in the morning it is very compact now. My wife and I had a quickie on Tuesday night. It wasn't very difficult to get errect. I was very horny because I had been looking at some soft core porn. I am still drawn to pretty women, but I'm not interested in the hard core stuff at this point. I can manually stimulate myself, but unless there's visual stimulation accompanying I'm basically ready to cum by the time my penis begins to firm up. My errections even when I'm inside my wife do not feel as full as before. My desire for sex has decreased somewhat. I could take it or leave it much more easily.
I do notice that I'm warmer sleeping at night and that I wake up on my own around 5:30 to 6:30AM, I don't know if that's an indication that I'm sleeping worse. I don't feel anymore tired. My energy for running seems to be steady. I've actually dropped a pound since I started. And the acne I mentioned has cleared up with nothing more.
I took my third 150mg injection this morning. The injection site is not as sore as before, but I rubbed it for about a minute afterward. I'm hoping the desire for softcore will drop off soon and I'll have no difficulty keeping my eyes to myself. I'll keep you updated.
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One thing I learned is this. You must "relax" the muscles around the injection area or you will feel it for days and days and days.
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I'm on day 19 now. I haven't really had any urge to have sex since last Wednesday and I haven't been looking at any porn for the past few days. It certainly doesn't hold my attention like it used to and I had been looking at it mostly from the empirical perspective of wanting to see if felt compelled to look more, etc. I really don't feel any compulstion at this point and think I can break it off. I also haven't felt the need to take any second glances. This afternoon, as I was driving, I looked in my side view mirror and an amply endowed woman bounced into view. I was at a light and without DP, I probably would have enjoyed the view a second time, but I didn't.
I had my two month visit with my primary care doc today and gave her the update. She was primarily interested in any side effects. I mentioned that I had seen a little acne, and she said that was the second most common side effect after weight gain, which she seemed to think would happen. (We'll see...) I'll follow up with her in six months and have a physical. She was glad I am going to see an endocrinologist on the 19th. I'll follow up with my urologist on the 20th.
I also think the insurance is going to straighten out the bill. It seems the lab work was coded differently than the visit, which caused the lab work to be non-covered.
I set a reminder in Outlook to offer to go down on my wife every couple weeks, so I don't forget to satisfy her, but I have half a mind to just let it go and see how long it is before she asks. Is that evil?

I had my two month visit with my primary care doc today and gave her the update. She was primarily interested in any side effects. I mentioned that I had seen a little acne, and she said that was the second most common side effect after weight gain, which she seemed to think would happen. (We'll see...) I'll follow up with her in six months and have a physical. She was glad I am going to see an endocrinologist on the 19th. I'll follow up with my urologist on the 20th.
I also think the insurance is going to straighten out the bill. It seems the lab work was coded differently than the visit, which caused the lab work to be non-covered.
I set a reminder in Outlook to offer to go down on my wife every couple weeks, so I don't forget to satisfy her, but I have half a mind to just let it go and see how long it is before she asks. Is that evil?
switching to a maintenance dose? I'm pretty satisfied with how things are at this point. I'm thinking about waiting until the 20th for my next injection which would make the pattern one-per-week-for-three-weeks followed by every three weeks. I'd also considered another dose on Thursday and then waiting three or four weeks, depending on my sex drive. Any one with experience have any recommendations?consideringthecut (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:06 am Does anyone have any recommendations on