Warning to those who want to find a cutter

[tugon (imported)]

I've found several cutters. -- DON"T ASK ME FOR THE DETAILS -- I'm not going to reveal names or search methods.

I was warned early on by some of the senior members of EA about this.

The problem is simple -- all of these folks are sexual sadists and therefor are to be considered dangerous. You might want a simple and cheap castration -- but their agenda is quite another story. They want to hear you scream when they close the handle of their Burdizzo or slice open your scrotum with a dul knife, and watch you puke and grovel at their feet. These folks are sick and dangerous to your health and well being.

If this sounds like fun, you deserve to meet one of these persons.

I'm not in BDSM or pain games or slavery. My advice -- STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE!

Making castration for non-TG males easily available from a real urologist would end their sick games. Don't let your fantasy and eagerness get you into trouble. Go find a real doctor.

I certainly do not encourage anyone to use a cutter but my experience was far from the one you described. Desperation can cause you to take risks you would not normally take.

[wolverine1 (imported)]

Basically, there's a double-standard out there... ...you mention something wrong in the "male goodies" department and you're instantly branded as a "head case." It's as if doctors of either sex simply refuse to believe that other than cancer, NOTHING ever goes wrong 'down there'.

This isn't meant to hijack the thread, but paolo (and others) have hit the nail right on the head... about how the medical profession (in 'the west' at least) have a pathological fear of giving people what they want in cases like this... It really pisses me off that they can be so short-sighted and cruel that they wait for something to go wrong before doing anything!?!?! Whatever happened to 'prevention is better' than cure???

On a personal note, i'm in the highest risk bracket of developing testicular cancer due to being a bilateral cryptorchid that wasn't corrected until I was 4 years old (where were the dr's until then?) and a family history of cancer... In an ideal world, I would have the option of eliminating that risk by a simple surgery thru choice, but instead, the same doctors who 'do no harm' would rather I suffer an injury or develp cancer first (!?!) before they allow me that choice???

To get back on track this is one reason why personally I would consider using a cutter, regardless of the cutters inclinations... I know the surgery would be irreversible, but why not have a disclaimer drawn up beforehand that exonerates the surgeon if you suddenly think afterwards that you've made a mistake? Maybe with something like that in place as an option, so many people would not even consider having castration performed by a cutter?

[Kangan (imported)]

So far, the only "cutters" (and I include Burdizzo users in that category) that I have located either insisted on it being painful (no anesthesia) or being done in a hotel room (non-sterile setting).

I can understand the need to be restrained while the procedure is done, but then you are at risk of being brutalized once the handcuffs are on. Another red flag for me was the fact that one "cutter" wanted to know my real identity. Sounds like the prelude to identity theft or blackmail.

Most "cutters" are control freaks with a sadistic streak. Beware. If that turns you on - go ahead and make an appointement - the reality might be scarier than you think.

[DonFL (imported)]

I have to agree, lidocaine is insanely easy to get and make into a sterile solution, there is no excuse. I recently ordered 10g of lido powder, enough to make hundreds of ml of 2% solution, and it cost less than 30$. I'm not into pain anymore, I've had enough in my life, and allot of the attempts at self nutting i have seen posted make me hurt just thinking of it. A cutter who gets off on causing pain is something none of us need..

Ive had doctors refuse to believe that my highly deformed left nut is painful, and a hazard to my health. I can only imagine responses from the doctors with physically normal men.. If i was a woman with painful ovaries, no gyno surgeon would give a 2nd thought about removing them, but for men....

[mrt (imported)]

We've discussed this before, although I don't know if it was before the hack and restore or not, so it could be lost.

Basically, there's a double-standard out there: doctors will perform these surgeries you mention for women at the proverbial "drop of a hat". Why is this?

But just as you say, sure enough, you mention something wrong in the "male goodies" department and you're instantly branded as a "head case." It's as if doctors of either sex simply refuse to believe that other than cancer, NOTHING ever goes wrong 'down there'.

Been there, done that, with 8 different doctors, the 9th who basically lied to me, and #10, well, we haven't even discussed it because it's irrelevant to me now. Nice snug cotton underwear for support and Tylenol or Aleve are far better than spending $$$ I don't have and being nothing but insulted in the process.

I agree there is a double standard. I think that its wrong in both directions. Doctors are far to easy to talk into doing a woman's "castration" (Removal of Ovaries) etc and so many are sent home with hot flashes and feeling awful with little options made available. *HRT etc.

On the other hand men can present themselves with what I think most would agree are valid reasons for an orchiectomy such as chronic Orchialgia, atrophy or serious GID issues and be given either the bums rush or made to jump through months to years worth of hoops. And then? Its a crap shoot if it ever happens.

I DO think its worth any hassle to avoid being hacked on by Vets, Cutters and other do it yourself folks. The consiquences of an error are just too horrific to consider.

Lets remember that there ARE valid resources for getting this taken care of.

Dr Bowers in Colorado.

Dr Reed in Florida

Dr Alter in NYC and LA

Dr Kimmel in PA

Other then Dr Kimmel they all require some documentation that your not a raving nut case but... I think that is a good idea. I would hate to wake up "neutered" only because I had a bad mental health day.

[genderless (imported)]

I would have to at least agree when it comes to cutters, is being able to trust them to do it correctly. I'm not as concerned about the sterile enviroment as much as I'm more concerned with the pain issue; because I would probably have to go to the hospital anyway botched or not.

I think I would trust a friend more.

LOL Anybody want to be my friend?

[Kangan (imported)]

I would have to at least agree when it comes to cutters, is being able to trust them to do it correctly. I'm not as concerned about the sterile enviroment as much as I'm more concerned with the pain issue; because I would probably have to go to the hospital anyway botched or not.

I think I would trust a friend more.

LOL Anybody want to be my friend?

The issue of trust is a big one. O

ne "cutter" wanted to know my real

name, but didn't want me to know theirs. Also, the requirement of being shackled raised some trust issues. Once restrained, you would be at their mercy and could be tortured or worse.

Now if two friends got together... ;) and by friends I mean someone who you could respect and trust and vice versa... that would be a different matter. ;)

However, I would still be concerned about my friend's competence and experience and also the sterility of the insturments and operating theater, etc.

It is the aftermath of a botched job that concerns me, in addition to the "trust" issue, that absolutely ruled out using a "cutter."

[DonFL (imported)]

I would have to say, if one does use a cutter, take someone you know and trust to guard you... I would hope that one could at the very least find a fellow board member to watch over you...

[genderless (imported)]

I totally agree mismatched! A supervisor is a big plus especially if you do have to take that trip to the hospital. Someone has to insure that you get there before bleeding to death.

[Kangan (imported)]

I totally agree mismatched! A supervisor is a big plus especially if you do have to take that trip to the hospital. Someone has to insure that you get there before bleeding to death.

You should also have an attorney on retainer to keep you out of jail, and a press agent to handle the resulting publicity circus:D.

That's why I opted for a relatively pain free and 100% bloodless method. If you want something done right - do it yourself!