Paolo wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:47 pm
The device mentioned is the same principle as the elastrator. The cranking/torquing of the tubing type bands, however, creates a tighter grip much more powerful than the green bands alone. Still, the problem of dead tissue hanging below the band is still a problem. If you do cut below it (them=bands) and they do manage to come off...then what? And you can't very well leave a pair of rotting balls hanging there, now!
This does not seem to be an issue for all of the animals The necrotic tissue just drops away in the fullness of time. There used to be some posts from people who had been there-done that on BME and elsewhere. They reported similar experiences (about a month if nothing is taken off and 7 - 10 days if the sac and balls are removed.) This is really a condition called dry gangrene and if all goes well may not be a problem.
However there are a number of potential problems that you should research in more detail before you make a decision.
1. It could turn into wet gangrene or peritonitis -seriously life threatening
2. The ring might not be tight enough to prevent retraction movement of the cords. This could result in necrotic material being introduced above the ring resutting in 1. above
3. If you remove the package not only might the cords slip up completely in side but also the ring may slip off entirely leaving you in very dire straits from potential bleeding as well as infection
4. After the ring and necrotic tissue separate there is still a wound to heal up described as about the size of a dime.
5. I am not sure what would happen to the cords remaining in the body assuming all goes well otherwise. I suspect that they could attach themselves to the remaining scrotum material and become very sensitive if not painful.
6. Pictures I have seen show a signifant and unsightly scar. The resultant scarring may interfere with future erections if you still have them
7. My personal experience of banding is that it can be painful. Mostly scrotum pain but some ball/cord pain on ocasion. I am told that it takes over four hours to kill the balls completely (some say up to eight to be sure). Thats a long time to use local anaesthetics. In my case icing works to numb them. You can always tough it out. Some do.
8. If the package is left on it WILL get smelly and become a social problem - maybe an infection vector
9. It will be likely that you will need to have some cosmetic surgery to tidy up the area after the event.
10. Be prepared to get emergeny professional medical support at first sign of anything going wrong.
However, if all of this does not deter you (it has me), I think all of these things may be manageable with the right proceedures. My own view if I was going to do it to myself (I have come close) I would use at least three bands, make sure that enough scrotum was left above the rings to allow future free movement, about a day later remove the package leaving about 1/2 inch below the rings, treat the area frequently liberally with Betadeine(Providone, Iodine etc). Keep the area totally clean and as dry as possible with particular attention to the perineum and maintain the Betadeine treatment until healed. Dangerous bacteria lurk around the anus particularly and will migrate via sweat along the perineum into the operation area. Likewise be careful about any urine or other fluids in the area. Keep the area as dry as possible maybe treat the stub with salt to dry it out and preserve it.
Be careful about too liberal use of antibiotic ointments some are potentially toxic if they find their way into the body although they work on the surface. A good course of serious antibiotics would be agood idea if you can get them. In my case, for management of infection problems arising from play, I have used Amoxicillin combined with Flagyl which has worked so far. If you do use antibiotics make sure you go through the full course even if you feel things are OK.
Keep the phone number of your doctor/emergency agency handy. You might not get a lot of warning if something goes wrong
If you really are serious, IMHO the safest option is to apply the bands; wait till the area is numb enough to proceed and take off the package; flush it down the toilet, preserve it in alchohol - whatever; and then go to an emergency room to have it all professionally fixed up. This will give you all the satisfaction you may want from doing a self cast but will still keep you reasonably safe. The only risks here will be the embarrassment of explaining the situation to the ER staff and the later conversations with the psychiatric fraternity. Make sure the ER don't call the police. Tell them that you did it by yourself even if you had help(recommended) and advise them that you will sue their ass if your privacy is not strictly maintained.
You should do your own checking. None of this is probably news to you. It is all based on some of my experience and considerable time on the net. Much of it is anecdotal but I think it is resonably reliable. I am concerned that if you do continue, you at least go forward with whatever advice is available and make informed decisions. If this is all too graphic I expect that Paolo will kill it anyway but hope it is helpful
