My start with Androcur

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My start with Androcur

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Hello my friends,

Yesterday my prescribed (online prescription) Androcur arrived. :D

My goal is to achieve real castration status comparable with surgical castration. I plan a six-month test phase. I start with 150mg/day (3 tabs/day). Is this dosage sufficient to achive my goal? Do I need additional medications?

A complete shutdown of sexual desire (no erections, ejaculations) is desirable and acceptable for me.

I'm 40 years old, married with two children. My sex life durling the last years became absolutely frustrating for me, so that I decided to change things. My wife always had low libido and she accepts this step but is suspicious. She is anxious concerning my health and will urge me to see the doctor frequently to have my serum checked (liver, etc.).

I will report the development in detail in this forum and I appreciate all kinds of advise and information.

My current status:

High libido with daily morning erections, erections during the day when having sexual thoughts, feel the urge to masturbate 2-3 times a day.

Greetings and Happy Easter to you all!

Aquamarin
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Hello my friends,
Aquamarin (imported) wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:09 am My goal is to achieve real castration status comparable with surgical castration. I plan a six-month test phase. I start with 150mg/day (3 tabs/day). Is this dosage sufficient to achive my goal? Do I need additional medications?

A complete shutdown of sexual desire (no erections, ejaculations) is desirable and acceptable for me.

I'm 40 years old, married with two children. My sex life durling the last years became absolutely frustrating for me, so that I decided to change things. My wife always had low libido and she accepts this step but is suspicious.

As you will have read in many other posts in the EA, you are absolutely right to start with drugs to lower the testosterone first. You will be able to check how it feels before taking the irreversible step of having your balls removed surgically.

I was surgically castrated on September 22, 2003. I made a number of postings at that time to describe my surgery and how I felt after I lost my balls.

Like you, I am married with three grown-up children. When I went to see the surgeon to discuss castration and arrange the date for the procedure, my wife came with me and was a party to the decision. On the day of the surgery, my wife came with me to the hospital and waited while I had the op and then drove me back home afterwards.

I had a year on a drug to lower my testosterone to the castrate level. This was because I had been diagnosed in December 2001 with prostate cancer. I was started on Androcur for three weeks to reduce the size of my prostate prior to beginning a 7-weeks course of daily radiotherapy. When I started radiotherapy, my drug treatment was changed to Zoladex-LA. This was given in the form of an implant under the skin and repeated once every 12 weeks. Because the drug was injected under the skin, it was there for the 12 weeks and there was nothing I could do about it. In that way, its effect was similar to surgical castration.

I was on the 12-weekly injections of an implant for a year. After that, the effect began to wear off and my testosterone levels began to rise. I had been a virtual eunuch for a year. Now my sexuality was returning. If I had done nothing, I should again have become a fully sexed male.

I discussed this with my wife. I liked the way that I felt as a eunuch. My wife was content with my eunuch state. We decided that I should become a permanent eunuch by being castrated. Because I had been a virtual eunuch for over a year and then briefly experienced the effect of my testosterone returning to its normal level, I was in no doubt that castration was right for me. I was castrated in September 2003. I have not had any doubts since that I, together with my wife, took the right decision.

I found the Eunuch Archive in January 2002. I found - and still do - the postings very helpful. One was a message from "Gelding" that I found particularly helpful and I repeat it here:-

"When the wife is supportive, the decision to neuter is easier to make and also leads to a shared understanding. The wife has been essentially neuter since menopause, and it is easier on both if the male is also. The affection is still there but the uneven sexual balance is gone with the male's gelding".

Please feel free to send me a private message via this website if you wish.

Terry (a very contented eunuch)
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Aquamarin (imported) wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:09 am Hello my friends,

Yesterday my prescribed (online prescription) Androcur arrived. :D

My goal is to achieve real castration status comparable with surgical castration. I plan a six-month test phase. I start with 150mg/day (3 tabs/day). Is this dosage sufficient to achive my goal? Do I need additional medications?

A complete shutdown of sexual desire (no erections, ejaculations) is desirable and acceptable for me.

I'm 40 years old, married with two children. My sex life durling the last years became absolutely frustrating for me, so that I decided to change things. My wife always had low libido and she accepts this step but is suspicious. She is anxious concerning my health and will urge me to see the doctor frequently to have my serum checked (liver, etc.).

I will report the development in detail in this forum and I appreciate all kinds of advise and information.

My current status:

High libido with daily morning erections, erections during the day when having sexual thoughts, feel the urge to masturbate 2-3 times a day.

Greetings and Happy Easter to you all!

Aquamarin

Happy Easter!

You did say you were open to all forms of advise so forgive me for suggesting some contrary type thoughts. Have you thought about ways to increase your wife's sex drive rather then eliminate yours? The effects of low to no testosterone are not just asexuality and impotence. If you go forward you might want to ask your wife to take notes on how she sees your behaviour changing. You will "probably" see signs of depression, low energy, mood swings, and more. Some men handle low testosterone better then others of course but I think its quite possible. And in my limited experience no fun.

Think "Menopause" for the male. If you remember how you felt when your wife went through the "Change" you might want to reconsider. You should know that you will probably get used to it. It might make you less stressed about sex but make your wife more stressed about your change.

If lack of sex is a primary issue. Talk to her. Express your needs and discuss other options in addition to your castration. One thing worth talking about it Bio Identical Hormone replacement for her (Including (maybe) Testosterone) She will see the same benefits. Increased mood, energy, increased sexual desire as well as better vaginal lubrication. If she goes on them *Only under a doctors care. It would be worth at least a test drive.

I think that if your having a healthy sex life with her your urge to masturbate will go down. And from my experience the more sex a male gets the less he "needs" it. The less sex a women gets the less she cares. So it may take a serious mental shift to get to a good place but from my experience its well worth the effort.

Ok, thats my soapbox. Best wishes to you and yours.
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Re: My start with Androcur

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Hello mrt,

Thanks for your reply. From your point of view you are perfectly right. I did discuss things intensively with my wife. If the development with antiandrogens is unsatisfactory, due to side effects, results, etc. we will have to choose your described way.

To be honest, I have the wish to get rid of sex drive for a long time and if the "evaluation period" is satisfactory I could emagine to go one step further. But due to the long periods medications need to show their results this is in the "far" future (6-12 months).

What concerns me now is the fact that the members here who have posted their experience with antiandrogens, especially cyproterone acetate (Adrocur), have made completely different experiences with regard to efficiency and side effects. I have no chance. I have to wait and see how things turn out for me.

Best wishes to you, too.
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Re: My start with Androcur

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Status after one week:

After one week of Androcur (150mg) I do not feel many effects. Unchanged libido, normal erections and ejaculations. But some side effects: Since two days permanent sweat on my upper lip, from time to time increased heart beat (tachycardia) and I feel nervous and uncomfortable. I am waiting for the described calmness connected with low T. I'll continue with this dose for 2-3 days, if side effects remain, I'll reduce to 100mg.

My first enthousiasm has settled but I know that it's to early to expect anything.

Greetings, A.
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Re: My start with Androcur

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Don't worry. Certainly do not be tempted to augment your dose.

I had a period of just one month on 2x50 mg. During the first 2 weeks nothing changed. But after a month I was almost impotent (at 32 years !). Androcur is very powerfull drug, just give it some time.

Possibly I will redo a test period but with only 50 mg.

Good luck and keep posting.

Vesal.
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Everyone's body is different. In just 2-3 days of Androcur, my penis was flacid all the time. In one month, I was having hot flashes. I recall the prostrate cancer dosage was something like 400 mg. per day, which no one has taken to my knowledge. Yet I know one man that was shut down at 50 mg. per day. Most people start at 100 mg. and then move up in time, which is what I did. Give it your best. Good luck.
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OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:52 am I recall the prostrate cancer dosage was something like 400 mg. per day, which no one has taken to my knowledge.

Under the direction of the physician who was supervising my treatment for prostate cancer, my initial course of Androcur was 300 mg daily (one 100 mg tablet taken three times a day).

I was on the Androcur for three weeks and then my treatment was changed to goserelin injected as an implant every 12 weeks for a year.
TerryUK (imported) wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:15 am Terry (a very contented eunuch)
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I hope it goes well for you Aquamarin. I just posted an up-date on my recent experience with Cyproterone (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10341). It is amazing how it affects people so very differently. But then I guess there some women (my wife, for instance) who cruise through menopause without much discomfort or distress, and others have a really rough time of it.

Keep us posted.

All the best

Riven
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Re: My start with Androcur

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Don't rush things. I've been on Androcur several times and sometimes it has started working in 3 or 4 days, sometimes longer. The longest was 10 days at 100mg. Patience!

Terry
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