Just curious.
I was on Androcur for 5 months, then switched to Spironolactone from February to now (2 months). I feel something brewing under my left nipple and it's become a little sore. The right nipple has some soreness too, but it's lesser. I can feel them both when I'm not touching them, which didn't happen before. If the nipples become erect, I can see a little bit of puffiness that wasn't there before.
What do you think? Could it be nipple development? (yeah!) I'm not on estrogen & progesterone, so.... do you think it could be gynecomastia development? I have a very slight amount of that but it's *barely* visible, even with close inspection.
If that were true, I find it a little unusual it would begin 7 months after starting anti-androgens, however maybe Spiro works on the body differently. I dunno.
If it were 1 nipple, I might be concerned about a tumor or something, but it's both at the same time. It's been like this for 3 days now, popped outta nowhere.
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Unrelated side note: I've noticed sexual urges and acne were lower on Androcur compared to Spiro. On Spiro, my urges went back up just a little, plus a small amount of acne came back. Given that I still think I like Spiro better. Sometimes Androcur made me feel kind of hollow.
There's another curious thing about my urges too. They never went to zero, but maybe cuz my testosterone was tested at 220 something. I think it was super high before (I suffered a nasty sexual addiction). What's different is I'm *far* more attracted to men now. Before it was maybe 15% men, 85% women. It's reversed now. 85% men, 15% women. But then again, prior to last summer I had a hard time accepting that I have gay fantasies.
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There's one more thing too. I wish I'd have gone on Spiro 10 years earlier. I'm not suffering from sexual obsessions anymore. And, my hairline would have been remained intact.
Did your nipples ever hurt?
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Re: Did your nipples ever hurt?
WOW... I was on Androcur for over three years. And yes, my left breast developed tissue and hurt for quite a while. Yet, my right breast did not do this.
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Re: Did your nipples ever hurt?
What you discribe sounds like classic Gynocomastia. *Female Breast growth. This is a good time to sit down with you MD and discuss this and your use of Androcur and Spironolactone. She/He should know what your doing even if they may not agree with your use of it so they can monitor hormones and such to insure your ok.
As to low Testosterone and gender stuff. I think the "books" say that this should not influence sexuality as far as bias but... At least in my very limited experience low levels cause lots of weird stuff.
If I can be an "Amateur" Scientist women have lower levels of Testosterone and it sounds like your having problems with too much estrogen so.... If you "wire" yourself more female like is it that odd that you would start having female like drives? I don't think so.
As to low Testosterone and gender stuff. I think the "books" say that this should not influence sexuality as far as bias but... At least in my very limited experience low levels cause lots of weird stuff.
If I can be an "Amateur" Scientist women have lower levels of Testosterone and it sounds like your having problems with too much estrogen so.... If you "wire" yourself more female like is it that odd that you would start having female like drives? I don't think so.
eunnie2006 (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:42 pm Just curious.
I was on Androcur for 5 months, then switched to Spironolactone from February to now (2 months). I feel something brewing under my left nipple and it's become a little sore. The right nipple has some soreness too, but it's lesser. I can feel them both when I'm not touching them, which didn't happen before. If the nipples become erect, I can see a little bit of puffiness that wasn't there before.
What do you think? Could it be nipple development? (yeah!) I'm not on estrogen & progesterone, so.... do you think it could be gynecomastia development? I have a very slight amount of that but it's *barely* visible, even with close inspection.
If that were true, I find it a little unusual it would begin 7 months after starting anti-androgens, however maybe Spiro works on the body differently. I dunno.
If it were 1 nipple, I might be concerned about a tumor or something, but it's both at the same time. It's been like this for 3 days now, popped outta nowhere.
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Unrelated side note: I've noticed sexual urges and acne were lower on Androcur compared to Spiro. On Spiro, my urges went back up just a little, plus a small amount of acne came back. Given that I still think I like Spiro better. Sometimes Androcur made me feel kind of hollow.
There's another curious thing about my urges too. They never went to zero, but maybe cuz my testosterone was tested at 220 something. I think it was super high before (I suffered a nasty sexual addiction). What's different is I'm *far* more attracted to men now. Before it was maybe 15% men, 85% women. It's reversed now. 85% men, 15% women. But then again, prior to last summer I had a hard time accepting that I have gay fantasies.
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There's one more thing too. I wish I'd have gone on Spiro 10 years earlier. I'm not suffering from sexual obsessions anymore. And, my hairline would have been remained intact.
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Re: Did your nipples ever hurt?
mrt (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:19 am What you discribe sounds like classic Gynocomastia. *Female Breast growth. This is a good time to sit down with you MD and discuss this and your use of Androcur and Spironolactone. She/He should know what your doing even if they may not agree with your use of it so they can monitor hormones and such to insure your ok.
I'm seeing a doctor and gender therapist now, so I'm on prescription. Spiro is a heck of a lot cheaper if you have insurance. $10 a month versus $65.
mrt (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:19 am As to low Testosterone and gender stuff. I think the "books" say that this should not influence sexuality as far as bias but... At least in my very limited experience low levels cause lots of weird stuff.
If I can be an "Amateur" Scientist women have lower levels of Testosterone and it sounds like your having problems with too much estrogen so.... If you "wire" yourself more female like is it that odd that you would start having female like drives? I don't think so.
I think the books (TG ones) are wrong about that. Hehe. I've seen them be wrong about other things. I've experienced a clear switch in preference, but... I don't think that would occur in someone who's very strongly heterosexual, which I wasn't.
I see it more of as a change in perspective or viewpoint. I still find pretty women attractive, but I'm not all that interested in going further.
Maybe it's a pheromone thing. Hmm. But, I still feel it if I look at porn. Can't detect pheromones through photos though. Hehe.
By the way, I look at that stuff maybe once a month I spose. Far more manageable than before... when it was all day, every day, non-stop, call in sick, need more, more, more, more.....
OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:15 am WOW... I was on Androcur for over three years. And yes, my left breast developed tissue and hurt for quite a while. Yet, my right breast did not do this.
Bah. I hope they come out symmetrical.