Slammr (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:10 pm
What meteor? No, you're completely wrong. Global warming is caused by cow farts. All we have to do is kill all the cows, and the world will be saved.
Just to be on the safe side - let's kill both the cows AND the meteors. I mean, what has the meteors ever done for us? The sneaky bastards...
Dear Slammer Your wr ite the best - tell me more about that POTION -- and You A-1 You got the most HUMOR . but there are things that the so called SCIENTIST are not able to do or omprehend - as far as I can tell - the external causes of weather is one thing - the Suns fluctuation , and the planetary effects -
so let us look at those few of us that are allowed to differ and maybe the Eunuhs among us will be the first to see the true pictue.
I just love Your writings and spelling and interpretations etc. most enlightning. THANKS N3RF
There is always a grain of truth in every delusion experienced. Sometimes it is difficult to find that grain of sand on the large beach that life provides. Without a map where X marks the spot, I would think a good belly laugh would ease the tension.....
By the way, I do believe in dwarfs. I was once at a dwarf tossing competition. Interesting...
Alright, let's introduce a few FACTS into the discussion. Over the past decade or so, there has been a considerable strengthening of the solar magnetic field. This shows up in solar magnetograms which are routinely taken at solar observatories.
A predictable consequence of this has also been observed. The change in the solar magnetic field has driven many of the cosmic ray particles out of the inner part of the solar system. This has reduced the cosmic ray flux into the Earth's atmosphere.
Cloud droplets need nuclei onto which to condense. The most effective nuclei, because they are electrically charged, are ions produced by the collision of cosmic ray particles with atoms of nitrogen, oxygen, and argon in the Earth's atmosphere. Less cosmic ray particles means less ions. Less ions means less cloud droplet nuclei.
The albedo (reflectivity) of the Earth depends, to a large extent, on the area of cloud cover. As might be expected, the paucity of cloud droplet nuclei has reduced the area of cloud cover, and thereby, the Earth's albedo. Less incoming solar radiation is being reflected back into space; more is reaching the surface. Ergo, global warming.
This is not only the dawning of the Age of Aquarius, it is also the dawning of an Interglacial Age. The Wisconsinan Ice Age, except for Greenland and Antarctica, is over. If the dawning Interglacial Age follows the pattern of the three (possibly four) Interglacials in the past million years, we can anticipate unsteadily rising global temperatures for the next 20,000 to 30,000 years until they level off at the peak of the Interglacial Age.
Deglaciation is due to EXTERNAL phenomena. It is unrelated to phenomena occurring on Earth. If we never burn another atom of carbon, deglaciation and global warming will progress unabated. We don't know exactly what causes it and WE CAN'T STOP IT.
It's time to stop playing the blame game and devote our energies to devising strategies for coping with prolonged global warming. The remaining ice sheets WILL melt. Sea level WILL rise, Climatic belts WILL shift poleward. Low-lying areas WILL be flooded. Some agricultural land WILL become desert.
We cannot prevent any of these effects of deglaciation. Therefore, we had damned well better be prepared for them, if we want to survive.
BTW, a comment about my qualifications to pontificate on this subject. I am a retired geologist with degrees from Trinity College and Yale University and additional graduate study at the University of Wyoming and Indiana University.
I taught geology for 32 years at the college and University levels and astronomy from time to time for about 20 years. I have been retired as an Assistant Professor Emeritus of Physics and Earth Sciences for over 19 years.
I intentionally left a few points vague in my original post which I can clarify if anyone is interested. Particularly, I gave the causes of glaciation and deglaciation short shrift. It was either that or burden the reader with a post 2 or 3 times as long.
Also, if anyone wants to know some FACTS about the hole in the Ozone layer, I'd be glad to address that subject also.
I think we - us - wannabes - and eunuchs - are smarter than most and I myself know that if I could write and think as smart as THEM and YOU I would be too rich for comfort. Hi
The Red Dwarf is another face of the story and the Electrical Universe pertaining also to this discussion I refer everyone to Dr Jmccanneyscience.com The only problem with his web site it is so big and it takes several evenings to cover some of the high points. Sorcha Fal on the other hand covers lots of topics from all arounf the world, and this EA web site covers also a lot - lots to read an ponder. A-1 and Slammer and all the others are terrific writers and ponderers so it would behov Our Boss GWB to read these thoughts to make this USA the best country in the world, work in progress. N3RF
Bagoas; While I had not identified the cause of Earth's warming as you have, I had reached the same conclusion about the need to take action not to stop the warming (even if caused by humanity it would be too little too late) but to take measures to offset the anticipated effects. Your post is refreshingly free of the unneccessary posturing usually seen from all sides on an extremly important subject. --FLO--
Bagoas (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:21 am
We cannot prevent any of these effects of deglaciation. Therefore, we had damned well better be prepared for them, if we want to survive.
I agree. Whatever the causes, we aren't about to stop the effects. Even if carbon dioxide is contributing to global warming, there's no chance that the US, let alone China, is going to cut down on the emission of it soon enough to make much difference. The glaciers are as good as gone; the world a hundred years from now will be a much different place. Goodbye Florida; goodbye NY City.
