Equality / Feminism / Feminazis

[kristoff]

Speaking of the superior female sex, I'm not sure which I find more erotic:

A Feminist Nazi or card-carrying member of the Lesbian Sex Mafia.

But can't the Lesbian Sex Mafia also be Nazi's? Many of those I know are....

Some of the dykes I know (eeeek) often leave one wondering what happened while the dust settles. Always said: You want to see something good fucked up, let the lesbians (insert any name here, but lesbians works best) take it over. On the other hand, one should always be on guard against PC-crazed (Political Censor) women of any stripe: They're mean and nasty.

[BossTamsin (imported)]

I must admit, I do feel that feminism has lost it's original goals, and become far far more than it was ever intended to be.

For the record, I am entirely for the original goals of feminism. That is, equal rights for both men and women. Equal work most definitely deserves equal pay. Discrimination against women should indeed be abolished.

However...

Modern feminism has radically changed. It is no longer about those goals. Instead, it seems to have become something more out of Animal Farm. 'All animals equal, but some animals are more equal than others.'

Some examples to show how things have changed.

Women's Only Gyms: These are widespread, prevalent in our society today. The general reason for their existence is 'to allow women a place to exercise without having to be stared at by men.' I'll ignore how this portrays all men as lechers, and denies that any woman can look at a man the same way. I've always wanted to take the exact same wording, contracts, rules, etc that these places operate under and swap the terms 'men' and 'women', and open a "Men's Only Fitness" gym just to see what would happen. Of course, we all know what would happen. One woman would walk in, demand membership, and sue my ass off for discrimination when she didn't get it. How is this 'equality'?

Male-Bashing: Nowadays, it seems to be completely politically correct to portray all men as wife-beating, date-raping, spawns of Satan. According to one survey:

In a new report released Thursday, the agency said that seven per cent of women and six per cent of men end up abused by their current or former partners. - Story on CBC website (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/07/ ... 50714.html).

Read that quote. Then read it again. See where it says "and six per cent of men"? Show me one domestic violence hotline for men. Show me one shelter for battered men. What's worse is that in today's society, a man cannot even DEFEND himself if his wife abuses him. As soon as he does, she can then yell 'spousal abuse' and it's the man who winds up in jail. There are other examples in this category, such as how in an amazing majority of divorce cases, custody of any children is given to the mother, even if the father may be in a better position to nurture and support the children. Nowadays, even step-parents or common law partners can be on the hook for support, no matter how many others are paying support.

Some of you have probably thought by this point that this type of thing is only fair. After all, women were discriminated against throughout history, so some turnabout is only just. That is not 'fighting for equality'. That is revenge. That is discrimination. And it makes you no better than any of those who discriminated against women for so long.

Reading this, you will likely assume I'm some knuckle-dragging misogynist. That is not the case. I was raised by a single mother, and I know all too well the problems they face. Those are the types of inequalities that we all should be working towards overcoming. I will fight for equality. I will also fight against discrimination, no matter what form it takes.

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

Hmmmmm where do I begun...so much to cover, so little time..damn, I've become Willy Wonka.

But, on to the matters at hand.

Women...aren't they a great sex? Why, when I was just a boy, there were only two sexes: the right one (female) as they were always right in asrguments and those of us on the losing end of all maritial spats (men). It was so simple back then.

We thought the ideal couples were the Beavers, Ozzie and Harriet, and Father Knows Best. The husband went to work (not in Ozzie's case though) everyday and the wife stayed home to cook, shop, clean and care for the children. One income was enough. Husbands and wives were joint deciders on all important issues. Husbands never beat their wives or slept around. Fantasy...yes. But it was the ideal we all aimed for but rarely achieved.

There was no "apparent" need for equality in the workplace since few women worked and those who did were restricted by custom to maids, cooks, secretaries, beauticans, Avon sales and maybe a sales clerk in a department store.

Like IEunuch, I believe a woman should be paid the same salary as a man for doing the same skill level or work at the same quality put out. There isn't any occupation nowadays that a woman can't do or should not have a right to do. Personally, I would prefer women not be combat troops.

As far as Women Only Gyms...I say there should be a choice between gyms that are all men, all women or coed. If I was 100+ pounds overweight, I'd prefer a men-only gym until I reduced down to a reasonable size. Then I'd advance to a coed gym...where I could show off my (non-existant) but ego-inspired muscles after a hard workout.

Why shouldn't women have a female only gym. Men have many sex restricted clubs. Golf courses separate men and women's events. Masons don't allow female members and there are other examples. I see nothing wrong with some discrimination.

Without any discrimination, we wouldn't be allowed to have a: Black Student Union, National Organization for Women, Black Caucus in Congress, Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts, etc. Without any discrimination, a protestant could become biship or Pope.

As far as Spousal Abuse goes...I've always believed that any man who beats his wife is a coward. In the one long year I was married, I only struck my wife one time. I knocked her down two minutes after she had coldcocked me on the floor. We each got in one blow. BTW, I'm 6'2 240. Then my ex was 6'1" and 280.

I have always believed that, of most spousal abuse cases, the victim was the female 95% of the time. If my facts are way off then I need to cAtch up on my reading.

IEunuch...you are NOT a knuckle-dragging misogynist. I have known you several years now and I've never seen you drag your knuckles.

[Gerslave (imported)]

I would like to make a small supplement.

There are two events, just happening in Germany, in the same city, three or four weeks ago.

A woman stripped behind a window. A man who is coming on the street remained looking to this scene. The woman called the police, the police arrested the man because of voyeurism.

The man stripped behind a window. A woman on the street has noticed this "spectacle", called the police and the man is arrested because of....exhibitionism.

Indeed curious or...not funny. Or with other words "some persons are more equal than others." Men have lost equality of right several years ago.

[A-1 (imported)]

A QUIZ....

Which one of the following words does not belong in the list of for words that follows...

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....well, you can beat a drum, you can beat and egg, you can beat your wife.

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.BUT YOU CAN'T BEAT A BLOW JOB!

[Gerslave (imported)]

The women demand - it's true.

But they have not already recognized that several men are not ready to father children. It's just a result of their behaviour against men. Especially in Germany there is a remarkable reduction in the number of new born children, for more than 15 years. Just the well educated and academic women have lost in this lottery. Newspapers and magazines published a lot of articles of the unwilling men here. But nobody of the female writers / journalists have mentioned the real reasons, but only of these egomanics of men, their insanity and their faults....

And I also was not participated in an increase of poupulation, but I am sure to have made the right decision.

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

I won't say A-1's humor furthered the cause of feminism BUT, it sure gave me one hell of a belly laugh

Thanks A-1....hopefully many more to follow.

[Riverwind (imported)]

I won't say A-1's humor furthered the cause of feminism BUT, it sure gave me one hell of a belly laugh

Thanks A-1....hopefully many more to follow.

Yes best post in this long thread.

Now the problem is you must keep the wife barefoot and PG.

It is good to know that science have finally proved that women are scatter brained.

River

[A-1 (imported)]

Anna Freud, Daughter of Sigmund Freud, became a famous Psychiatrist in her own right, but one day, when she was just a teenager, the following did transpire...Anna, a young lass of 14 came running into her father's study, all out of breath and excited and exclaimed...

"Papa! Papa! I hod ze streengeest dreeem... I dreemed that you were at ze universitee wit all of your colleegues, und you were all seeting in a circle eeting yore lunches."

"Yes?"

"Yes, Papa, und you had theese greet beeg banana... und you sayed to me, Anna, vould you like to eet theese banana? Tell me, Papa, Vat does eet meen?"

Papa Freud sat quiet for a minute with a far-away look in his eyes, then, a scowl came across his face. Looking Anna straight in the eyes he replied...

"Anna! Sumtimes a dreem ees juust a dreem, und a banana ess juust a banana!"

The moral of this story is that Feminists see things that are not there and they need to follow Papa Freud's wise wisdom regarding circumstances between the sexes...think before you speak. Once it is out, it can never be taken back...