Question on Ejuculation
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fami (imported)
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Question on Ejuculation
Hi everyone ^^.
I am sorry if this question has been asked before. I tried using the search function in the board to look up "Ejuculation" but I did not find much ^^. So here I am.
I have been told that when one ejuculates protein is lost in a noticeable quantity. I am not sure if this is true or not but he did mention that you loose something like a steak worth of protein. I also remember reading that Zinc is used up too.
I am a vegetarian so my protein levels are not really high. I do drink milk and from time to time eat an egg, I also drink soy and eat oatmeal ^^. Sometimes though I feel as if I am not getting enough protein and I do not want to make my state even worse ^^. Usually after I ejuculate my body temperature seems to drop and I tend to feel cold T . T, I have no one to cuddle with so I must huggle my blankie.
On a side note I also read that you release hormones when you ejuculate, mainly Testosterone?. Would this not have an impact on my male to female transition?. I have noticed that facial hair seems to grow more noticeably a day after I masturbate T__T. I seem to crave for sugary items after I am done too, and I am staying away from sugar items because it slows your transition.
If someone could help me with an answer or comments about things related to this subject, I will really appreacite it ^^.
P.S. I have been reading that Whey is a good form for protein but I am not too sure if I should take whey or not... what do you guys think?.
I wish I could avoid masturbation and ejuculation all together x__x. What ever plans or motivation I have is usually replaced by sleepyness and tiredness after I masturbate. Spiro has helped me along with calming all of this and DEPO-Provera has Defenetly shown quite a bit of an improvement but.. it still happens T_T.
I am sorry if this question has been asked before. I tried using the search function in the board to look up "Ejuculation" but I did not find much ^^. So here I am.
I have been told that when one ejuculates protein is lost in a noticeable quantity. I am not sure if this is true or not but he did mention that you loose something like a steak worth of protein. I also remember reading that Zinc is used up too.
I am a vegetarian so my protein levels are not really high. I do drink milk and from time to time eat an egg, I also drink soy and eat oatmeal ^^. Sometimes though I feel as if I am not getting enough protein and I do not want to make my state even worse ^^. Usually after I ejuculate my body temperature seems to drop and I tend to feel cold T . T, I have no one to cuddle with so I must huggle my blankie.
On a side note I also read that you release hormones when you ejuculate, mainly Testosterone?. Would this not have an impact on my male to female transition?. I have noticed that facial hair seems to grow more noticeably a day after I masturbate T__T. I seem to crave for sugary items after I am done too, and I am staying away from sugar items because it slows your transition.
If someone could help me with an answer or comments about things related to this subject, I will really appreacite it ^^.
P.S. I have been reading that Whey is a good form for protein but I am not too sure if I should take whey or not... what do you guys think?.
I wish I could avoid masturbation and ejuculation all together x__x. What ever plans or motivation I have is usually replaced by sleepyness and tiredness after I masturbate. Spiro has helped me along with calming all of this and DEPO-Provera has Defenetly shown quite a bit of an improvement but.. it still happens T_T.
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Re: Question on Ejuculation
fami (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:09 pm "Ejuculation" but I did not find much ^^. So here I am.
Not ejuculation, it is spelled ejaculation. That's why you couldn't find much.
fami (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:09 pm On a side note I also read that you release hormones when you ejuculate, mainly Testosterone?
I was researching this recently and as far as I could determine masturbation should not cause your testosterone levels to rise.
fami (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:09 pm I wish I could avoid masturbation and ejuculation all together x__x.
One thing that helps me with that is being on an anti-depressant. It removes my ability to orgasm (all the SSRI's that I've tried do this to me) and so I don't even try to masturbate anymore.
fami (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:09 pm P.S. I have been reading that Whey is a good form for protein but I am not too sure if I should take whey or not... what do you guys think?.
Tempeh has a very high protein content and can be cooked into all kinds of delicious dishes. I also usually supplement my diet with tofu, nuts & legumes, and soymilk -- also good sources of protein.
Protein! (http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#table2)
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Re: Question on Ejuculation
twaddler (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:21 am Not ejuculation, it is spelled ejaculation. That's why you couldn't find much.![]()
Oopsie ^-^; and here I thought I had it right ! .
twaddler (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:21 am I was researching this recently and as far as I could determine masturbation should not cause your testosterone levels to rise.
This is great news ^ - ^. Not like I do it really often but it is still great news!. Thank you for your research.
twaddler (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:21 am One thing that helps me with that is being on an anti-depressant. It removes my ability to orgasm (all the SSRI's that I've tried do this to me) and so I don't even try to masturbate anymore.
Anti-Depressant .. I am not sure it feels like I already am taking enough drugs as it is T__T.
twaddler (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:21 am Tempeh has a very high protein content and can be cooked into all kinds of delicious dishes. I also usually supplement my diet with tofu, nuts & legumes, and soymilk -- also good sources of protein.
Protein! (http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#table2)
I've never herd of Tempeh before but doing some research it does seem to be high in protein ^^. I will go ahead and try it!. I already drink Soymilk/pownder and eat Tofu, nuts & legumes, adding another dish high in protein will defenetly help me along. Thank you for the protein table ^__^!.
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Re: Question on Ejuculation
Loss of vital proteins by ejaculation is a myth that is very widespread.
Ejaculate is a protective environment and energy source for sperms that are swimming in it.
I haven't found any proof in scientific writings about critical loss of proteins. Ejaculate volume is naturally small and it consists mostly of water, of which proteins are tiny amount.
About Zinc loss one must be more careful. One ejaculate may consist as much as 5mg of zinc. which is 1/3 of human body dayly requirement.
There are cases when too little zinc has caused problems. Mainly because of too small intake over a longer period. I haven't heard anything about loosing too much zinc through masturbation.
It seems that human body is regulating semen production. It is able to replace lost semen pretty fast, in 1-3 days completely, and then slow sperm production considerably if it is not ejaculated.
The mechanisms of sperm production regulation and nocturnal emissions are not known.
nocturnal emissions - another myth: body is producing sperm in constant rate and physical pressure inside genital system will trigger nocturnal emission. this is not true as sperm production is almost stopped if it is not used.
Ejaculate is a protective environment and energy source for sperms that are swimming in it.
I haven't found any proof in scientific writings about critical loss of proteins. Ejaculate volume is naturally small and it consists mostly of water, of which proteins are tiny amount.
About Zinc loss one must be more careful. One ejaculate may consist as much as 5mg of zinc. which is 1/3 of human body dayly requirement.
There are cases when too little zinc has caused problems. Mainly because of too small intake over a longer period. I haven't heard anything about loosing too much zinc through masturbation.
It seems that human body is regulating semen production. It is able to replace lost semen pretty fast, in 1-3 days completely, and then slow sperm production considerably if it is not ejaculated.
The mechanisms of sperm production regulation and nocturnal emissions are not known.
nocturnal emissions - another myth: body is producing sperm in constant rate and physical pressure inside genital system will trigger nocturnal emission. this is not true as sperm production is almost stopped if it is not used.
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erikboy (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:56 am nocturnal emissions - another myth: body is producing sperm in constant rate and physical pressure inside genital system will trigger nocturnal emission. this is not true as sperm production is almost stopped if it is not used.
Would not masturbating cause for your testicles to anthropy?.
Do anthropised testicles in anyway relate toward lower Testosterone levels?.
For some reason I have noticed that my facial hair seems to grow faster about a day after I masturbated. Might anyone know the reason for this or is this just totally me?.
Thank you for all the information ^^.
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Wow. Way interesting. i thought no one would bring up masturbation.
The thought had left my mind for a while, i have noticed, sense surgery my sexual desire is so very much lower at times. However, the thought of self-pleasure dose sound great. And it feelz so good to experience yourself, the tingle of your own hands touching what is meant to be shared. Ending with such an intense release.that sweet, wet release. Im sure yawl knows it feels great in a worm shower.
Ok, not that im a freak or anything.
Fami, i do know what you mean, about the loss of protein, and the cold, as well as the intense cravings that came come afterwards. After ejaculation that is. However, i have noticed that with my increased consumption of supplement vitamins, and large fluid drinking, I can combat the cravingz, as well as the tempter drop.
Im sure excessive ejaculation can be bad to some extent, but regulating your body, and cycling its fluids is perfectly healthy. and pleasurable.
When it comes to the protein, again i am a veggin, and quite thin. i myself have attempted to eat the right things. And am very strict when it comes to what i will take into my body, as long as your eating balanced meals, everything should work out. The worst that could happen is your hair falls out, your teeth weaken, and you become nothing but skin and bones, like me.
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The thought had left my mind for a while, i have noticed, sense surgery my sexual desire is so very much lower at times. However, the thought of self-pleasure dose sound great. And it feelz so good to experience yourself, the tingle of your own hands touching what is meant to be shared. Ending with such an intense release.that sweet, wet release. Im sure yawl knows it feels great in a worm shower.
Ok, not that im a freak or anything.
Fami, i do know what you mean, about the loss of protein, and the cold, as well as the intense cravings that came come afterwards. After ejaculation that is. However, i have noticed that with my increased consumption of supplement vitamins, and large fluid drinking, I can combat the cravingz, as well as the tempter drop.
Im sure excessive ejaculation can be bad to some extent, but regulating your body, and cycling its fluids is perfectly healthy. and pleasurable.
When it comes to the protein, again i am a veggin, and quite thin. i myself have attempted to eat the right things. And am very strict when it comes to what i will take into my body, as long as your eating balanced meals, everything should work out. The worst that could happen is your hair falls out, your teeth weaken, and you become nothing but skin and bones, like me.
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homptydumpty (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:23 pm Wow. Way interesting. i thought no one would bring up masturbation.
The thought had left my mind for a while, i have noticed, sense surgery my sexual desire is so very much lower at times. However, the thought of self-pleasure dose sound great. And it feelz so good to experience yourself, the tingle of your own hands touching what is meant to be shared. Ending with such an intense release.that sweet, wet release. Im sure yawl knows it feels great in a worm shower.
I understand what you mean ^^. When it hits you it hits you hard, the thought I mean. It is like a build up that the longer you put off the bigger it will be o__o;. The thoughts usually do not go away until you do it. Spiro and Depo have defenetly brought those thoughts down, it makes me happy ^^.
Usually when that thought hits me I am unable to focus on things I want to do. Sometimes I go along other times I do not but, when I do follow along at the end I just feel tired, hungry, sleepy, cold, and slightly depressed; Thats due to the other feelings mentioned. Not only that but the next day I have to deal with facial hair growning a bit more rapidly and sometimes even a bit of acne x__x.
Ok, not that im a freak or anything.
No it is okay. I do not think you are a freak nor I think anyone should because those thoughts are normal ^^ -hugs-.
homptydumpty (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:23 pm When it comes to the protein, again i am a veggin, and quite thin. i myself have attempted to eat the right things. And am very strict when it comes to what i will take into my body, as long as your eating balanced meals, everything should work out. The worst that could happen is your hair falls out, your teeth weaken, and you become nothing but skin and bones, like me.
I did notice a drop in strength and immunity when I first began the veggie route. Bones seem to have thinned too so I started taking calcium and vitamind D supplements. Things are better now though i still need to work on eating better things.
On a side note I did a google search to see if I could find sites that mentioned and increase in Testosterone after having sex or masturbating. I got mixed hit some said they did not go up while others said T did go up. I seemed to have gotten more hits that state that it does though but it could be related to the words I used for the search. Testosterone increase masturbation and sex.
http://www.masturbationpage.com/asmfaq1.html
23Q. I want to start working out to build muscle mass.
Some of my friends say masturbation will increase testosterone, but others say it will decrease testosterone. What effect will masturbation have?
Masturbation is very unlikely to decrease testosterone levels. Semen is not the source of testosterone, and ejaculation will not cause testosterone levels to go down.
All other things being equal, increased sexual activity -- including masturbation -- tends to increase testosterone levels. But these levels depend upon many factors including age, time of day, overall level of physical activity, and general health. Psychological factors can cause changes in testosterone levels: levels go up in men who believe they are going to become more sexually active, levels can be affected by whether a person knows in advance that he will be test for testosterone, and so forth.
In your case, the increase in physical activity accompanying your workouts will probably have a much greater effect on your testosterone levels. If you are a young male AND working out, your testosterone level is likely to be so high that any difference masturbation (or other sexual activity) might make will be insignificant.
In much older men (over 40 years old), especially those with fewer sexual activities of other kinds, masturbation might increase testosterone levels significantly--which is not to suggest that masturbation might replace a reasonable program of physical exercise.
Although athletes were once advised to avoid sexual activities (including masturbation) *immediately* before athletic performances, studies have not found any scientific basis for this advice. So far as I know there have been no studies of the effects of abstinence *throughout* training, and probably there won't be because it would be difficult to find athletes who would agree to be abstinent for a prolonged time and no way to tell whether they really were. At any rate, nothing special about masturbation would cause it to have a bigger effect for better or worse than any other kind of sexual activity.
Here is a long detailed page about Testosterone
http://www.seekwellness.com/andropause/testosterone.htm
I managed to find this about 1/3rd of the way.
A variety of conditions can cause low testosterone besides aging:
* The testicles may be damaged, especially the Leydig cells, during sports or from other physical trauma.
* A case of mumps after puberty can cause an inflammation of the testes that interferes with testosterone and sperm production.
* Radiation treatment or chemotherapy can have a negative effect on the Leydig cells.
* Testicular or pituitary tumors can also have an impact on the testosterone level.
* HIV/AIDs and other serious viral infections can inflict damage on the pituitary gland, the hypothalamus or the testes.
* Genetic conditions such as Klinefelter's, Kallmann's and Prader-Willi syndromes and myotonic dystrophy all can have a negative impact on testosterone production.
* Vasectomy may damage the Leydig cells and lead to early andropause.
In addition, many lifestyle habits affect the way testosterone is produced. A diet high in meat and poultry may expose a man to hormones used in meat production that act like estrogen in the body. Estrogen is a potent inhibitor of testosterone production as are prolonged periods of high stress. --->Mild to moderately intense physical stress, as in casual sports and sexual intercourse, may actually boost testosterone production.<------ Alcohol consumption, on the other hand, has been proven to have a strong negative impact on testosterone levels. Beer, which contains plant estrogens, is particularly toxic to the testes. As we all know, the testes are very heat sensitive so switching from jockey shorts and tight jeans to boxers and loose pants may raise the testosterone level.
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http://healthystrokes.com/questionsp.html
Does over-masturbation delay facial hair growth, since testosterone is released when you ejaculate? (age 16)
At your age, your testosterone levels are apt to be so high that "over-masturbating" or "under-masturbating" or any other kind is likely to make no difference at all. If anything, I think more testosterone being released would increase, rather than delay, facial hair growth. If you don't have to shave daily yet, relax. Those of us who shave once a day or more find it to be a pain.
Does constant masturbation (once a day perhaps) lower your testosterone levels, or does masturbating help increase the testosterone in your body? (age 17)
I don't think once a day can fairly be described as "constant." At your age, I don't think masturbating will make much difference in the short run since your testosterone is at a lifetime peak. In the long run, more frequent sexual activity (including masturbation) will tend to raise rather than lower testosterone levels.
http://www.themarriagebed.com/pages/bib ... cuss.shtml
Masturbation increases our sex drive.
Actually is does not. When a man has sex with a woman it satisfies his sexual hunger, but raises his testosterone levels long term, which can result in an increased sex drive. However, when a man masturbates he only satisfies his hunger, his testosterone levels are not raised. We see this as evidence that a loving God designed masturbation as a "stop gap" measure for those who do not have a spouse.
http://www.dmt123.com/generic-health-1/ ... mt123.html
Does masturbation or other sexual activity increase testosterone in men?
answer: no
[Kind of short answer o__O]
http://www.trygve.com/mfw_faq.html
What about sex and/or masturbation?
Neither masturbation or sexual intercourse is likely to worsen your athletic performance and recovery or lower testosterone levels. Engaging is sex or masturbation *during* a lift could potentially be dangerous and, in any case, you should always observe good gym etiquette and clean up any equipment afterwards. If you do have sex in the gym, be aware that other gym members may complain if you haven't brought enough to share with them too.
J Endocrinol 1976 Sep;70(3):439-44 Endocrine effects of masturbation in men. Purvis K, Landgren BM, Cekan Z, Diczfalusy E
The levels of pregnenolone, dehydroepiandrosterone (DHA), androstenedione, testosterone, dihydrotestosterone (DHT), oestrone, oestradiol, cortisol and luteinizing hormone (LH) were measured in the peripheral plasma of a group of young, apparently healthy males before and after masturbation. The same steroids were also determined in a control study, in which the psychological antipation of masturbation was encouraged, but the physical act was not carried out. The plasma levels of all steroids were significantly increased after masturbation, whereas steroid levels remained unchanged in the control study. The most marked changes after masturbation were observed in pregnenolone and DHA levels. No alterations were observed in the plasma levels of LH. Both before and after masturbation plasma levels of testosterone were significantly correlated to those of DHT and oestradiol, but not to those of the other steroids studied. On the other hand, cortisol levels were significantly correlated to those of pregnenolone, DHA, androstenedione and oestrone. In the same subjects, the levels of pregnenolone, DHA, androstenedione, testosterone and DHT in seminal plasma were also estimated; they were all significantly correlated to the levels of the corresponding steroid in the systemic blood withdrawn both before and after masturbation.
http://www.4-men.org/how-to-make-testosterone.html
Have morning nookie
I'm all over this one...now I just need a partner.
Scientist in Germany (seems like all the good stuff and findings come from those guys) found that simply having an erection causes your circulating free testosterone levels to rise dramatically and significantly. On top of that having an erection will burn fat.
Well right now I'm burning fat and it's 7:30 am, I need to go!
And another thread down here
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showt ... stosterone
I did a search on google "masturbation lowers testosterone" I did not really get the related threads. They mostly spoke about injects and how T lowers with age etc.
Maybe this will help, maybe it will not. Either way I have noticed that after Masturbation [or sexual encounters, I am a virgin but you still release semen and what not when you do that, which is what happens when you masturbate] the hair on my body, specially facial hair, tends to grow more rapidly; I can feel it by rubbing my fingers about my face and you can just tell hair is growing T__T. Sometimes there also seems to be some acne show by uninvited but not all the time. Doesn't Testosterone cause facial, chest, belly, and overral body hair growth?.
Once I started taking spiro + DEPO and estrogen hair on my body would grow back much slower after I cut it. Before I started taking those drugs hair would grow back much faster. It was the opposite for the hair on my head it used to grow slower but now it grows back faster and male pattern baldness seems to have stopped ^^.
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Thanks for an excellent and thorough list of things to study on Testosterone etc. I save it for later "consumption". But question - can Electro Massage of the Testes cause a decrease of Testosterone - like with a regular use of a Tens unit - at the various levels of use ?? N3RF
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fami (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:12 am Would not masturbating cause for your testicles to anthropy?.
Do anthropised testicles in anyway relate toward lower Testosterone levels?.
For some reason I have noticed that my facial hair seems to grow faster about a day after I masturbated. Might anyone know the reason for this or is this just totally me?.
Thank you for all the information ^^.
Not masturbating does not cause your testicles to atrophy. When I was 18, a deep bout of Catholic Guilt convinced me that I should not be masterbating, so I didn't. For almost a year. I didn't particularly notice a change in size of the testicles, but I was always on the edge of arousal, and it wasn't long before I started having wet dreams. Probobly every other week or so, my body did on its own while I was asleep, what I wasn't allowing myself to take care of.
So I'm 26 now, and still can easily handle 2-4 times a day if I want. Usually at least 2 a day, or the spontanious erections at work get "bothersome."
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doug205ny (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:22 pm Not masturbating does not cause your testicles to atrophy. When I was 18, a deep bout of Catholic Guilt convinced me that I should not be masterbating, so I didn't. For almost a year. I didn't particularly notice a change in size of the testicles, but I was always on the edge of arousal, and it wasn't long before I started having wet dreams. Probobly every other week or so, my body did on its own while I was asleep, what I wasn't allowing myself to take care of.
So I'm 26 now, and still can easily handle 2-4 times a day if I want. Usually at least 2 a day, or the spontanious erections at work get "bothersome."
I see so then your body just took care of itself during the night. I guess you cannot really stop what nature intended for your organs to do even if you tried T__T. Either way this comment is really good ^_^ I guess we got that question out of the way, Thank you!.
I am going to ask something on the side ^^. Recently I came upon this product called "SuperBust" which carries herbal ingredients only. They seem to have a looong list of testimonials, with before and after pictures!, that this product works. I first found it on ebay Here! (http://cgi.ebay.com/MAKE-MY-BOOBS-BIG-F ... 8QQcategor yZ72803QQcmdZViewItem)
Then I decided to look up the actual site online to further check the ingredients Here! (http://www.superbust.com/ingredients.php) asides from the high price -__-' the herbs mentioned on there seem to be the kind I have read about which promotes "Breast Growth".
I actually have some of those herbs mentioned in the ingredient list and take them daily. I have had cross thoughts about saw palmetto though, some people say it helps others say it does not x__x. Either way I am working my way to a B cut right now according to the measuring chart I saw. I'd want to try that formula being sold on there but I would have to save up some cash first ^^. Either way, if anybody knows something good about this product let us know!.