Strange case in Massachusetts

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radar (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:06 pm Pedophilia is NOT almost exclusive to men. It merely goes vastly underreported for women, due largely to gender stereotypes that claim that women are incapable of such crimes, and an unconscionable tendency of many people to view the young male victim as having "gotten lucky". The spate of recent incidents involving female teachers and male students are only just beginning to expose the truth of the situation. That does not say that women are equally likely as men to be pedophiles; we don't have enough honest evidence yet. But it does say that the "almost exclusively" reference is untrue.

Well, I think most sexually driven crime is a matter of testosterone. Testosterone is well known to make people both horny and aggressive. So I think that sex crime is very strongly weighted toward male perpetrators.

Those female teachers are not the same because they really believe they are in love with the kids. Yes, it is still pedophilia, but much different than some guy picking up kids, raping them dumping them. For example, Latourneau has recently married the guy she was with.

The reason why society plays down testosterone's role in rape is because we're trying so hard to treat women equally. However, I'm pretty sure that there are absolutely no recorded cases of a woman who was a "pure" sex predator -- all the ones I'm aware of were either under control of a guy (like Karla Holmolka), were severely battered by men, or thought they were in love.

Do you know of any cases of a woman on her own cruising parks for kids in a van?
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SplitDik (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:15 pm Well, I think most sexually driven crime is a matter of testosterone. Testosterone is well known to make people both horny and aggressive. So I think that sex crime is very strongly weighted toward male perpetrators.
Women have testosterone, too, albeit much less than men. There's another hormone that makes women horny, too (its name escapes me at the moment), so you can't simply eliminate women on that score. You also neglect to mention that recidivism is extremely high in pedophilic men, even when they get old and testosterone production has waned to sub-normal levels. No, this isn't a hormone problem; it's a mental illness
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:15 pm Those female teachers are not the same because they really believe they are in love with the kids. Yes, it is still pedophilia, but much different than some guy picking up kids, raping them dumping them. For example, Latourneau has recently married the guy she was with.
Frankly, I don't give a damn whether they think they're in love or just looking for a quick screw -- they're still sexual predators, and the effect on their victims is still just as destructive.
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:15 pm The reason why society plays down testosterone's role in rape is because we're trying so hard to treat women equally. However, I'm pretty sure that there are absolutely no recorded cases of a woman who was a "pure" sex predator -- all the ones I'm aware of were either under control of a guy (like Karla Holmolka), were severely battered by men, or thought they were in love.
No offense, SplitDik, but what planet have you been occupying lately? Playing down testosterone's role? With the loud and hateful feminist lobby screaming to de-nut every male rapist in existence? From my point of view, the rhetoric has been quite the opposite, that testosterone is the villain in most male aggression. It's the feminist justification for repressing masculinity, after all. If the radicals had their way, we'd ALL be nutless.
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:15 pm Do you know of any cases of a woman on her own cruising parks for kids in a van?
Being a bit disingenuous, aren't you? You've taken a typically male modus operandi and attempted to exonerate women because they don't follow the same model. That women tend to use other approaches is not even considered in this question.

Men are hunters, so tend to follow hunting-like methods to secure victims. Women are more social creatures, so tend to use relationships as avenues to similar goals. That's why you see predatory women so often in roles like teachers, where they can capitalize on an existing (and mandatory) relationship with a potential victim. And yes, there have been several such cases recently, where the women were looking for sexual gratification of some kind, and not necessarily seeing themselves as "in love" with their victims -- like the elementary school teacher who'd been banging three of her students (Yeah, must be a hopeless romantic, that one). Still, as women increasingly take on roles formerly reserved to men, we're starting to see patterns of behavior in women that are similar to that which was previously considered to be exclusively male behavior.

The link below is a quick reference to some older cases. If you're sincerely interested, I'll take some time and dig up some newer ones. I just don't want to go to the effort of rummaging around for a bunch of citations if the issue has already been pre-judged. http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/c- ... 040102.htm
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radar (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:06 pm Pedophilia is NOT almost exclusive to men. It merely goes vastly underreported for women, due largely to gender stereotypes that claim that women are incapable of such crimes, and an unconscionable tendency of many people to view the young male victim as having "gotten lucky". The spate of recent incidents involving female teachers and male students are only just beginning to expose the truth of the situation. That does not say that women are equally likely as men to be pedophiles; we don't have enough honest evidence yet. But it does say that the "almost exclusively" reference is untrue.

I am merely going by what has been reported in the literature. But yes, I would agree that outside of that there are probably many more female pedophiles. It is difficult for society to accept that a woman could be capable of rape.
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Re: Strange case in Massachusetts

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Well,

Let me tell you how bad it is.

A single female can adopt a child.

A single male cannot adopt a child.

Just because stereotypes abound in our society does not make them true, even if the social services agencies buy into them.

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