"Elastration" and related matters

[C van D (imported)]

Unsure if this belongs here or not. I'm unable to locate my earlier post.

Not long ago on this site I found a picture purporting to show a boy being castrated - according to the caption - by an "emasculation band". To date I've only heard of castration by rubber rings - the trade name is "Elastrator" in the case of young lambs. The rings are also used for "tailing". The process works in the same way on both extremities, i.e. the blood vessels are constricted to the point where the tail- or scrotum- dries up and drops off.

Have any readers come across references to boys being "done" in this way?

Now I come to the point - the caption to this picture hinted that the process might be painful. Although the basis of the "Simon" stories is a fictitious society where castrating boys is part of the culture, I have never, ever, used a plot where the operation is done in such a way as to "make sure he'll never forget it". That would be disgusting.

On the contrary, the favoured method in Simon's world is by Neutersol. In the words of Simon's Headmaster, castration by Neutersol can be trivialised. Afterwards the boy pulls his pants up and goes back to classes, or football, or whatever. Far from making a big issue of it, he's just "had his balls pricked" and his sister calls it "that thing that boys have done, to stop them doing rude things with girls".

C van D

[kristoff]

There is a device different than the elastrator pliers and rings most often mentioned. I forget its name (I do that too damned often lately). However, it functions with a ratcheting device that pulls a thin rubber tube tight about the scrotum and locks it in place by crimping a metal stay on it. Makes the band much more tight than the pliers tool. Also extremely difficult to get off - not for banding play, definitely. It is also much more expensive.

As for banding boys, the only place I've heard of anyone doing that is in a few stories in the archive. I doubt that it would be a very widespread practice historically, beyond current agricultural practice.

[laseguridad (imported)]

I elastrated lambs and calves 20 years ago. The practice has larglely been stopped for castrating due to the pain it causes. It is still widely used to dock lamb's tails, because there doesn't seem to be a major pain element there. I have had a few subs ask me to use it on them, but none have been able to take it for very long due to the pain.

[texmec (imported)]

Wish you could remember name of that device, Kristoff, some of the stories seems to be describing it's use...

Also, some other stories are using some kind of device which double bands, so whole scrotum bag gets lopped off right then and there between the bands. Theoretically that sounds possible, but don't know whether that is actually done in animal husbandry practices.

By the way, the picture so always shown here of the Roman castration device looks to me by design like that's what its intent is, debagging,otherwise, what the hell is it?

[Bagoas (imported)]

I seem to recall that the device referred to by Kristoff is called the EZ Bander. It would certainly be no less painful than the elastrator, though it is probably much more effective.

[SunLord (imported)]

I elastrated lambs and calves 20 years ago. The practice has larglely been stopped for castrating due to the pain it causes. It is still widely used to dock lamb's tails, because there doesn't seem to be a major pain element there. I have had a few subs ask me to use it on them, but none have been able to take it for very long due to the pain.

This method is still widely used in Australia today. My brother still turns a couple of thousand little boy lambs into wethers (castrated male sheep) every year. We even did some (about 50) young rams one year. Boy didn't they buck about when we first put their rubbers on. Their obcene big bags of balls dropped off in no time though and they get over the pain quickly. Farm animals arn't as sensitive to pain as humans are in that way.

[A-1 (imported)]

Unsure if this belongs here or not. I'm unable to locate my earlier post.

Not long ago on this site I found a picture purporting to show a boy being castrated - according to the caption - by an "emasculation band". To date I've only heard of castration by rubber rings - the trade name is "Elastrator" in the case of young lambs. The rings are also used for "tailing". The process works in the same way on both extremities, i.e. the blood vessels are constricted to the point where the tail- or scrotum- dries up and drops off.

Have any readers come across references to boys being "done" in this way?

Now I come to the point - the caption to this picture hinted that the process might be painful. Although the basis of the "Simon" stories is a fictitious society where castrating boys is part of the culture, I have never, ever, used a plot where the operation is done in such a way as to "make sure he'll never forget it". That would be disgusting.

On the contrary, the favoured method in Simon's world is by Neutersol. In the words of Simon's Headmaster, castration by Neutersol can be trivialised. Afterwards the boy pulls his pants up and goes back to classes, or football, or whatever. Far from making a big issue of it, he's just "had his balls pricked" and his sister calls it "that thing that boys have done, to stop them doing rude things with girls".

C van D

O.K.

To begin with, you DO NOT dock the tail of an animal in this fashion. The tail contain vertebrae, and docking or bobbing tails of animals requires surgery unless you want to run the chance of the animal dying from complications. Elastrators work well on castrations, but that is all. Amputating a tail in this manner would be compared to amputating a finger in a human this way.

Surgical procedures done without anestetic are ALWAYS painful. Nobody castrates humans unless their is medical need for it in a civilized society.

Perhaps Jesus can tell you about third world countries...

A-1

[SunLord (imported)]

O.K.

To begin with, you DO NOT dock the tail of an animal in this fashion. The tail contain vertebrae, and docking or bobbing tails of animals requires surgery unless you want to run the chance of the animal dying from complications. Elastrators work well on castrations, but that is all. Amputating a tail in this manner would be compared to amputating a finger in a human this way.

Surgical procedures done without anestetic are ALWAYS painful. Nobody castrates humans unless their is medical need for it in a civilized society.

Perhaps Jesus can tell you about third world countries...

A-1

I don't know where you are getting your information from but your wrong.

[C van D (imported)]

Thanks to all those readers who have commented about elastration, emasculation bands or similar. If these methods cause pain then quite clearly they should be banned for use on boys.

Various contributors have heavily criticised the authors of stories in which young boys suffer castration in ways that deliberately cause suffering. I agree totally. Pleasure taken in this - or any other form of torture - is a perversion.

That is why Slammr and others are to be respected in promoting Neutersol as a means of neutralising a boy's virility in a way that is painless and non-invasive - to quote him, the boy pulls his pants up afterwards and gets on with what he was doing.

C van D

[Hash (imported)]

The tool could also be the "Callicrate Smart Bander." Just Google it and you'll get the No Bull website.