Castration in fiction books
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As Ted Huges once wrote: (From "Song for a Phallus")
There was a boy was Oedipus
Stuck in his Mammy's belly
His Daddy'd walled the entrance up
He was a horrible fella
You stay in there his Daddy cried
Because a Dickybird
Has told the world when you get born
You'll treat me like a turd
His Mammy swelled and wept and swelled
With a bang he busted out
His Daddy stropped his hacker
When he heard that baby shout
O do not chop his winkle off
His Mammy cried in horror
Think of the joy will come of it
Tomorrer and tomorrer... (From "Crow" by Ted Hughes)
There was a boy was Oedipus
Stuck in his Mammy's belly
His Daddy'd walled the entrance up
He was a horrible fella
You stay in there his Daddy cried
Because a Dickybird
Has told the world when you get born
You'll treat me like a turd
His Mammy swelled and wept and swelled
With a bang he busted out
His Daddy stropped his hacker
When he heard that baby shout
O do not chop his winkle off
His Mammy cried in horror
Think of the joy will come of it
Tomorrer and tomorrer... (From "Crow" by Ted Hughes)
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Dear People, Tuesday, 29th June 2004
I'll try to be brief this time.
The novels I have recalled, which contain various types of male human genital reformation, are as follows:
"Elric of Melnibone" by Michael Moorcock (what's in a name), in which a guy in a dungeon has his equipment removed and chucked on a fire by his torturor (best bit in an otherwise irritating book).
"The Women at the Pump", a 1920s picaresque novel by Knut Hamsun in which a rogue falls from the high masts of a ship, only to land, balls-down, on the riggings (hence: ball-crushings), and afterwards no one can understand why he has so many different children of so many different colourings. (Amusing, especially if you are Scandie - and I am half Scandie - and a helluva lot funnier than Ibsen). Thank God Carl Nielsen wrote symphonies.
There is also a reference to a threatened castration in one of the two novels published by the dull and depressing British poet Philip Larkin. It's either in "Jill", or the far better entitled "A Girl In Winter". Whichever novel it is (and both, like his poems, are of dubious significance) a boy is tied down and threatened with castration. He even has his pubic hair shaved off by his peers - with giggling girls watching. Check it out if you feel like maundering. But don't blame me when you wish you hadn't bothered.
The last novel I want to mention, at this time, is a Sci-Fi novel written around the late 1960s, early 1970s. If there are any fans of Sci-Fi of that period, please check your bookshelves. I only read it once, very quickly, and in an edition I picked up from an old-book store; but I remember enough to give a brief outline of the story. (And, no, it's not Heinlein). It goes as follows:
A park ranger encounters a beautiful, green-haired and voluptuous naked alien outside her space-ship and takes her home. He falls in love with her. Eventually, she submits to medical examinations and it is found out that her vagina is an instant castrator in that it bites off whatever is inserted, but only at the moment of ultimate orgasm for the lover and the alien. The ranger loves the alien, but she loves him far too much to bite his penis off. She also chooses a far better stud for her love-making, and goes home, leaving the park ranger intact, but with her lover's penis bitten off. When the dead guy is found, everyone is astonished at the ecstasy on his face. The alien girl possibly gives the ranger a blow-job before she departs, then goes into her space ship, sharing the sperm of her de-penised lover with all her girls in a kind of alternative bee-colony way, and then blasts off to God knows where.
The poor ranger is left with his tackle intact, but his heart broken.
Sure, this sounds just like anything you could read in the Eunuch Archives, but it is a superlative novel which deals with far more than mere sex. If anyone else has read this book, I'd love to hear from you. It deserves to be read.
Cheers
Nicky
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I'll try to be brief this time.
The novels I have recalled, which contain various types of male human genital reformation, are as follows:
"Elric of Melnibone" by Michael Moorcock (what's in a name), in which a guy in a dungeon has his equipment removed and chucked on a fire by his torturor (best bit in an otherwise irritating book).
"The Women at the Pump", a 1920s picaresque novel by Knut Hamsun in which a rogue falls from the high masts of a ship, only to land, balls-down, on the riggings (hence: ball-crushings), and afterwards no one can understand why he has so many different children of so many different colourings. (Amusing, especially if you are Scandie - and I am half Scandie - and a helluva lot funnier than Ibsen). Thank God Carl Nielsen wrote symphonies.
There is also a reference to a threatened castration in one of the two novels published by the dull and depressing British poet Philip Larkin. It's either in "Jill", or the far better entitled "A Girl In Winter". Whichever novel it is (and both, like his poems, are of dubious significance) a boy is tied down and threatened with castration. He even has his pubic hair shaved off by his peers - with giggling girls watching. Check it out if you feel like maundering. But don't blame me when you wish you hadn't bothered.
The last novel I want to mention, at this time, is a Sci-Fi novel written around the late 1960s, early 1970s. If there are any fans of Sci-Fi of that period, please check your bookshelves. I only read it once, very quickly, and in an edition I picked up from an old-book store; but I remember enough to give a brief outline of the story. (And, no, it's not Heinlein). It goes as follows:
A park ranger encounters a beautiful, green-haired and voluptuous naked alien outside her space-ship and takes her home. He falls in love with her. Eventually, she submits to medical examinations and it is found out that her vagina is an instant castrator in that it bites off whatever is inserted, but only at the moment of ultimate orgasm for the lover and the alien. The ranger loves the alien, but she loves him far too much to bite his penis off. She also chooses a far better stud for her love-making, and goes home, leaving the park ranger intact, but with her lover's penis bitten off. When the dead guy is found, everyone is astonished at the ecstasy on his face. The alien girl possibly gives the ranger a blow-job before she departs, then goes into her space ship, sharing the sperm of her de-penised lover with all her girls in a kind of alternative bee-colony way, and then blasts off to God knows where.
The poor ranger is left with his tackle intact, but his heart broken.
Sure, this sounds just like anything you could read in the Eunuch Archives, but it is a superlative novel which deals with far more than mere sex. If anyone else has read this book, I'd love to hear from you. It deserves to be read.
Cheers
Nicky
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Dear all,
One last one: "Less Than Zero", a novel by Bret Easton Ellis. Characters watch castration in a snuff movie at the end of the novel. One asks, "Can this be true?" Another replies, "You can't fake castration." I seem to remember it was quite explicit, but I don't have a copy. I don't know if this is in the movie version. "American Psycho", by the same author, might contain castrations, but I've never read it. I believe it contains a lot of severed vaginal lips, and is supposed to be far yuckier than the movie (which I haven't seen, either).
I think that's all I recall, but there are probably loads more that others will know about.
See ya!
Karelescu
One last one: "Less Than Zero", a novel by Bret Easton Ellis. Characters watch castration in a snuff movie at the end of the novel. One asks, "Can this be true?" Another replies, "You can't fake castration." I seem to remember it was quite explicit, but I don't have a copy. I don't know if this is in the movie version. "American Psycho", by the same author, might contain castrations, but I've never read it. I believe it contains a lot of severed vaginal lips, and is supposed to be far yuckier than the movie (which I haven't seen, either).
I think that's all I recall, but there are probably loads more that others will know about.
See ya!
Karelescu
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This would be one for trivia buffs. I remember reading, a good long while ago, a novel, by an author who had written some best sellers, (but the book in question probably wasn't a best seller) in which a rapist who was a lackey of the villain in the story, was beaten so badly that his injuries made him a eunuch. There might have been a character in it whose last name was Chang, but who was not of Oriental descent. For some reason, I associate the book with the novel, FOREVER AMBER, which I never read. Maybe it was the same author, or an author with a similar name. Can't remember anything specific about the title of the book, or the author.
I think someone was threatened with castration in THE BLACK ROSE, by Thomas Costain, but the emasculation was never done.
I think someone was threatened with castration in THE BLACK ROSE, by Thomas Costain, but the emasculation was never done.
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I might be wrong about THE BLACK ROSE, but I seem to recall that a Brazilain prostitute bites the penis off the man she is sucking when her neck is broken. I seem to recall that this event happened on the sub-way.
As for "Forever Amber". The novel was written by Kathleen Winsor. I have no knowledge of her works. I will do more research.
Nicky.
As for "Forever Amber". The novel was written by Kathleen Winsor. I have no knowledge of her works. I will do more research.
Nicky.
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Karelescu (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:39 pm I might be wrong about THE BLACK ROSE, but I seem to recall that a Brazilain prostitute bites the penis off the man she is sucking when her neck is broken. I seem to recall that this event happened on the sub-way.
As for "Forever Amber". The novel was written by Kathleen Winsor. I have no knowledge of her works. I will do more research.
Nicky.
How about "The World According to Garp?" Garp's wife has been having an affair with a boy, decides to break it off, but the boy pleads for one last time, so she gives him a blow job in his car, which is parked in the driveway at the Garp's home while Garp is at the movie with their two young sons.
Garp leaves the movie early to rush home. He has this game he always plays, which is to switch off his car lights down the street from his house, then to whip into his driveway, stopping right at the garage door. As a result, he doesn't see the car parked in his driveway. The wife ends up with her neck in a brace and the boy loses his cock. It would have been a funny scene, except that the younger son is killed in the crash.
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Dear Stammr,
You raise many good points. I'll do some more research, but I think this strand has had enough of me, so I won' be posting for a while. I have no wish to hog the platforms
Regards
Karelescu
You raise many good points. I'll do some more research, but I think this strand has had enough of me, so I won' be posting for a while. I have no wish to hog the platforms
Regards
Karelescu
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Nicky,
Don't stop now. You've stimulated a great deal of thought and interaction with your posts. I appreciate the knowledge that you've brought to bear.
Don't stop now. You've stimulated a great deal of thought and interaction with your posts. I appreciate the knowledge that you've brought to bear.
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Dear Jesus,
I'm almost in tears. Thank you for being so kind.
Yours,
Nicky (Karelescu)
I'm almost in tears. Thank you for being so kind.
Yours,
Nicky (Karelescu)
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ANGELIQUE NOVELS
Hi. Okay, so I haven't retired from this strand just yet. Blame Jesus for that. Actually, I've just remembered that Kortpeel posted something about the Angelique novels a while ago. These were published (in the UK) by Pan Books in the 60s/70s. They always featured a large-breasted Angelique on the cover, usually with a lothario, and with her bossom about to explode from her scanty, white, Spanish-style blouse, and with her hair going everywhere, most seductively, and her skirts...well, skirting, I guess, like something out of "Carmen" on crack (I believe these covers were done by the same guy who did Barabara Cartland's. Now, there's a thought!). The covers, obviously, were pre-porn wank-toys for little boys back then. The novelist was one Sergeanne Golon, who, if I remember correctly, died a few years back. His obit was in the newspapers. I am sure that book with the eunuchs to which Kortpeel refers is the mega-seller "Angelique and the Sultan". My father loved those books, so God knows what that says about me! Some of them are in print, but I am not sure about the Sultan one. As always, secondhand bookstores come first. If I can dig up an obit on Golon, I'll post it.
But whatever your bent, enjoy your reading. And thanks to everyone for being so nice to me since I joined this site, so recently. Have a great weekend.
Nicky (Saturday 3/7.2004)
Hi. Okay, so I haven't retired from this strand just yet. Blame Jesus for that. Actually, I've just remembered that Kortpeel posted something about the Angelique novels a while ago. These were published (in the UK) by Pan Books in the 60s/70s. They always featured a large-breasted Angelique on the cover, usually with a lothario, and with her bossom about to explode from her scanty, white, Spanish-style blouse, and with her hair going everywhere, most seductively, and her skirts...well, skirting, I guess, like something out of "Carmen" on crack (I believe these covers were done by the same guy who did Barabara Cartland's. Now, there's a thought!). The covers, obviously, were pre-porn wank-toys for little boys back then. The novelist was one Sergeanne Golon, who, if I remember correctly, died a few years back. His obit was in the newspapers. I am sure that book with the eunuchs to which Kortpeel refers is the mega-seller "Angelique and the Sultan". My father loved those books, so God knows what that says about me! Some of them are in print, but I am not sure about the Sultan one. As always, secondhand bookstores come first. If I can dig up an obit on Golon, I'll post it.
But whatever your bent, enjoy your reading. And thanks to everyone for being so nice to me since I joined this site, so recently. Have a great weekend.
Nicky (Saturday 3/7.2004)