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[Riverwind (imported)]

What is a "Pagan?"

Everybody has their favorite definition of the word "Pagan." Most people are convinced that their meaning is the correct one. But no consensus exists, even within a single faith tradition or religion as to what a pagan is.

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Origin of the term:

There is general agreement that the word "Pagan" comes from the Latin word "paganus." Unfortunately, there is no consensus on the precise meaning of the word in the fifth century CE (http://www.religioustolerance.org/ce.htm) and before. There are three main interpretations. 16 None has won general acceptance:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/_them ... 1d.gifMost modern Pagan sources interpret the word to have meant "rustic," "hick," or "country bumpkin" -- a pejorative term. The implication was that Christians used the term to ridicule country folk who tenaciously held on to what the Christians considered old-fashioned, outmoded Pagan beliefs. Those in the country were much slower in adopting the new religion of Christianity than were the city folks. They still followed the Greek state religion, Roman state religion, Mithraism, various mystery religions, etc., long after those in urban areas had converted. http://www.religioustolerance.org/_them ... 1d.gifSome believe that in the early Roman Empire, "paganus" came to mean "civilian" as opposed to "military." Christians often called themselves "miles Christi" (Soldiers of Christ). The non-Christians became "pagani" -- non-soldiers or civilians. No denigration would be implied. http://www.religioustolerance.org/_them ... bul1d.gifC. Mohrmann suggests that the general meaning was any "outsider," -- a neutral term -- and that the other meanings, "civilian" and "hick," were merely specialized uses of the term. 17 By the third century CE, its meaning evolved to include all non-Christians. Eventually, it became an evil term that implied the possibility of Satan worship. The latter two meanings are still in widespread use today.

There is no generally accepted, single, current definition for the word "Pagan." The word is among the terms that the newsgroup alt.usage.english, calls "skunk words." They have varied meanings to different people. The field of religion is rife with such words. consider: Christian (http://www.religioustolerance.org/christ.htm), cult (http://www.religioustolerance.org/cults.htm), hell, heaven (http://www.religioustolerance.org/heav_hel.htm), occult (http://www.religioustolerance.org/occult.htm), Paganism (http://www.religioustolerance.org/paganism.htm), pluralism (http://www.religioustolerance.org/rel_plur1.htm), salvation (http://www.religioustolerance.org/salvatio.htm), Witch, Witchcraft (http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm), Unitarian Universalist (http://www.religioustolerance.org/u-u.htm), Voodoo (http://www.religioustolerance.org/voodoo.htm), etc. Each has so many meanings that they often cause misunderstandings wherever they are used. Unfortunately, most people do not know this, and naturally assume that the meaning that they have been taught is universally accepted. A reader must often look at the context in which the word is used in order to guess at the intent of the writer.

We recognize that many Wiccans, Neopagans, and others regularly use the terms "Pagan" and "Paganism" to describe themselves. Everyone should be free to continue whatever definitions that they wish. However, the possibility of major confusion exists -- particularly if one is talking to a general audience. When addressing non-Wiccans or non-Neopagans, it is important that the term:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/_them ... ul1d.gifBe carefully defined in advance, or that http://www.religioustolerance.org/_them ... l1d.gifIts meaning is clearly understandable from the text's context. Otherwise, the speaker or writer will be referring to one group of people, while the listeners or readers will assume that other groups are being referred to.

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Hope this helps,

River

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[A-1 (imported)]

River,

I heard child-molesting Priests called "Pagans" recently.

...tell me it isn't so...

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[kristoff]

River,

I heard child-molesting Priests called "Pagans" recently.

...tell me it isn't so...

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It aint so. Pagans are usually of upstanding human nature

[A-1 (imported)]

It aint so. Pagans are usually of upstanding human nature

o.k., i'LL BITE...

What part is "upstanding"?

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[SplitDik (imported)]

Guys, the modern use of the word Pagan as positive is simply that -- a modern attempt to reclaim the word. It was never a word that the druids and such would have used for themselves, it was always a word used by others (i.e. Christians) to denote a negative connotation.

The modern attempt to define Paganism is just like rappers reclaiming the word "nigger". But that does not fully erase the longer standing original meaning of the term.

The other thing to note is that the term "pagan" referred to many, many non-Christian beliefs. So believing in the Greek gods, the Norse gods, or popular Taoism would all be considered pagan.

Also note that the words "wicca" and "wicker" probably come from the same root Scandanavian word meaning "to bend or twist".

[A-1 (imported)]

What tickles me is to see Christians and Muslims BOTH calling each other "INFIDELS"

...and here I thought that infidelity was cheating on your spouse... :shakemitk

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