Scenery, Lycra And Testosterone

[Sac_mec (imported)]

Followers of European Cycle Tours will have heard that the announced winner of the Tour de France, Floyd Landis has become the first man ever to be stripped of winning the Tour due to sky high testosterone levels. Runner up, Spaniard

0scar Pereiro seems likely to be declared the winner.

Meanwhile enthusiasts of beautiful scenery, ultra smooth tanned legs and cycling (of course) may be interested to know that currently the Deutschland

Cycling Tour is now in full flow and will finish in a few days.

The tour is being broadcast by satelitte by German channel, ARD with highlights on Eurosport. Both organisers and participants will want to ensure that T levels are low .

Does the sight of these cycling races with so much masculinity upfront and the combination of seeing different places interest you or bore you?

[tugon (imported)]

I love watching the endurance, stamina and muscles straining. The scenery is also enjoyable. I just worry they would be too tired at night.

[Slammr (imported)]

I watched all the Tour de France and look forward to it every year. It's a great showcase for the country of France. Until I watched the tour, I didn't realize how pretty the country is.

[Studlover (imported)]

I watched all the Tour de France and look forward to it every year. It's a great showcase for the country of France. Until I watched the tour, I didn't realize how pretty the country is.

France is a very beautiful country as I got to travel somewhat through it this summer.

It seems such a jolt that I was there on the Champs Elysees to watch Landis and now to see this trajedy.

I still have difficulty believing that he would do such a thing.

Mewonders if there was "politics" involved????

Studlover

[Slammr (imported)]

France is a very beautiful country as I got to travel somewhat through it this summer.

It seems such a jolt that I was there on the Champs Elysees to watch Landis and now to see this trajedy.

I still have difficulty believing that he would do such a thing.

Mewonders if there was "politics" involved????

Studlover

It doesn't make any sense. What testosterone product could he use to enhance his performance that would have an effect in just one day? They take steroids and testosterone to build muscle over a long period of time, not for just one day. If he were doping, why didn't it show on the other tests? If he did before that race, why? He had to know he'd get caught. He's either awfully stupid, or he was set up.

[Studlover (imported)]

It doesn't make any sense. What testosterone product could he use to enhance his performance that would have an effect in just one day? They take steroids and testosterone to build muscle over a long period of time, not for just one day. If he were doping, why didn't it show on the other tests? If he did before that race, why? He had to know he'd get caught. He's either awfully stupid, or he was set up.

Slammr, let's go for the latter of your suggestion. I still think there is a fish in Denmark or should I say France? Lance Armstrong went through drug accusations.

If the French keep this up, it's going to tarnish *their* name and the Tour de France in general.

Studlover

[n3rf (imported)]

Yes I think the "setup" theory is it. What other theories are there ??

Armstrong drank or sipped water all along those long stretches. What else did he do.

I saw them suck on those Juices and nibbled on those nutrition bars. Maybe the Eunuchs will explain the "crux" of the Testosteron matter. Maybe they will win their Court Cases that will make those Lawyers RICH ... WOW . Who else GAINS on the winners loss ?? I think what food suplements they take is NO BODIES BUSINESS. Yes ??? N3RF

[Sac_mec (imported)]

This thread was started to draw people's interest in the current Deutschland Cycling Tour. Yesterday's stage in the German and Austrian Alps was spectacular to watch in spite of a very damp start. If you'd like to watch the tour it is also broadcast, in Europe on the Astra satelitte both in analogue and digital formats. The Channel is ARD Das Erste and the frequencies are:

Digital 11836 H 27500 3/4 and Analogue 11.494 H L 7.02 R 7.20. The channel is free to air. The thread was started to be both a source of information and an opportunity to comment on the blend of scenery and cyclists and Lycra.

I made mention of the Tour De France having read in the UK paper, Independent On Sunday that the winner of that race would most likely be the first person ever to be stripped as winner of the race. Not only that his team, Phonax, have

dropped him. I read the newspaper online but it confirmed that the units of testosterone in a second, independent test confirmed the first results that he had 11 units of testosterone both times. He ought to have had 4.

Conspiracists are at it, even on this thread (I give up)! The final outcome will be decided by Specialists and the French tour winner could be the Spaniard, OK.

Naturally, cyclists on these gruelling tours need drink to stop dehydration and they need energy bars to provide an easy way to eat whilst cycling. There is no suggestion that there is anything which is not correct by providing riders with the ability to sustain themselves. If however a cyclist has somehow

enhanced their performance beyond their natural ability then they put a strain on their heart and they are cheating against fellow competitors. I gather that the stage in the French tour that Landis won so fast, was immediately questioned as 'not a normal perfomance'. I don't know about these things, I just read the press. To suggest France is 'fixing' the result is a slur and unjust. I draw your attention again to the fact that the Deutschland race is currently on live daytime TV (and probably on [A]DSL also). I simply wanted people to know this and to enjoy in the spectacle. I believe the race ends on the 9th. Das Erste is the best place to catch this because Eurosport appear to be covering live athletics from Gothenburg now.

I find each cycling race great to view. France has amazing scenery and towns and cities and if you've seen that, you will realise that seeing the Alps and the valley towns in Germany and Austria now is also great. Ahead, at the end of the summer we have the Spanish race, The Vuelta (might be mispelt slightly?). Anyway, Spain equally has superb countryside and also the chance to enjoy those sweating, ultra smooth tanned legs. Lycra means that the

cyclists "meat and two veg" are often very prominent. I hope all those that can catch these races enjoy them and the intention was that at least this thread might be light hearted and fun. For goodness sake......

[Patient (imported)]

There is an article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00960.html) by Ben Harder in the Health section of today's (8Aug06) Washington Post concerning Landis' allegedly excessive testosterone. There is a good bit of general info about T in the article as well as rather strong hints that Harder thinks someone administered a large dose of transdermal T to Landis before stage 17.

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[n3rf (imported)]

There is an article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00960.html) by Ben Harder in the Health section of today's (8Aug06) Washington Post concerning Landis' allegedly excessive testosterone. There is a good bit of general info about T in the article as well as rather strong hints that Harder thinks someone administered a large dose of transdermal T to Landis before stage 17.

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Yes I read it ame thing about T and E in the Washington Post this morning. Can one really BOST the T that suddenly ?? Would it have to be an injection ?? N3RF