Eunuch childhood signs

[thefraj (imported)]

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It is too bad we don't hav

e controll over our bodies like women do.,,,

That is an interesting statement. I've never considered that women have control over their bodies any more than men do.

Hmmmmm. Tiime to go ponder this statement.

Anyone care to comment, elaborate, confirm, or refute?Hehe it's weird - I furled my brow when I read this generalized sweeping statement too. But you know - I think billie is probably quite right.

As a eunuch I can now choose to be sexually active if and when it suits (or not! As the case may be!) But, as a male I had little choice what I found attractive or when to be active. Sometimes I would be compelled by my body to want sex.

Basically there is a kind of freedom I can now enjoy, a choice that was not really mine to make before castration.

Bearing in mind that testosterone drives sexual appetite - in both men and women - and since women and eunuchs have similar levels of T, is it fair to assume their level of biological urges are probably also similar?

Edit: Just an something else to think about. If you were to look around an 18 year old girls bedroom/computer, I bet you'd find less pornography than an 18 year old guy. The porn industry as a whole is more gear to men, which sort of reflects this too?

[Sac_mec (imported)]

We've moved rather off subject here but I feel that Billie was making the point that in medical and surgical and in cosmetics and cosmetic surgery that women have a whole range of easy extra possibilities than men have. (is that right Billie?). Men have to work much harder to achieve their body goals, generally. Women are prepared to listen to each other; men see themselves as Power controllers, often. As for sexual arousal ask any woman or anyone transgendered whether or not they have control of their bodies; of course, yes. The Fraj is right in making many of his above points and I agree with them but I would say that for young girls I think you'll find that the whole Pop Industry and a whole section of magazines are aimed at stimulating sexual arousal and interest for them. The added advantage for the record industry is that Gay men often are the first to be aware of Boy Bands such as Take That and the various Irish & Euro Boy bands, the American ones and not forgetting A-ha. Morton (the lead singer) would have given stimulation to many girls and guys and Take That Videos are 100% sexual - they even did a nude photo shoot. I guess copies of that found there way into many young girls bedrooms. I think a slight mis-interpretation of Billies intentions has occured. The surgical operation options and Cosmetic ones (esp. in N.America) are vast from boob jobs, to lips, to you name it. Surgeons seem to offer men lasering, waxing and vascetomies. That's quite a major body contrast isn't it and explains why Eunuchs and Tgs often feel under cared and very overlooked by Professionals. Its a fascinating diversion from the theme and thanks Bradley Bear for concentrating on that but that said, I hope the thread soon can find its roots again in its subject of Eunuch Childhood Signs.

[tugon (imported)]

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My father never praised me, never hugged me and instilled fear and terror into our home I "grew up" in an atmosphere of fear and insecurity frequently crying myself to sleep.My singing was important and enhanced some self esteem - bringing so much joy to me and other people. It built me up and was wonderful but that finished at puberty, naturally. As choirboys we knew all about Castrati and musical works composed for them but it was never dwelt on; it was just an historical fact and I'm not sure if we really understood it overmuch.

Sac_mec I can painfully relate to living in fear. I was always afraid to be in the house with my father without my mother there as a buffer. From an early age I never felt like I did anything well enough to please him. I was not much of a son and thought maybe that was why he was so angry. That fear and sense of being wrong has caused me great insecurity. I am glad you had the gift of your voice.

[Sac_mec (imported)]

Tugon, You know of all the active contributors here I instinctively knew that you would understand just how deeply upsetting and terrible it is when a father instills fear and terror into the souls of his children (we were all traumatised and reacted differently but we were all scarred and wounded to the depths of our souls). At nightime after I stopped crying I found solace from a transistor radio that I had under my pillow. The voices of the djs calmed me as did the pop music then. In the UK in the late 60s and 70s (and much later on also) if the police were called to a home to restore calm and settle problems they had no powers. No powers to help young children, no powers to help frightened wives.

The situations were described as "Domestics" and even when it was obvious real help was needed, they simply left the scene and did nothing. At least today in the UK and I'm sure in many countries, the police and Social Services and other Agencies do have powers, when they are alerted to hurt being done within a family. This early feeling of fear I had against my Jekkyl and Hyde father I am sure deeply affected my attitudes to males with power over me, such as bosses, and has been a major influence in finding peace and my own new fresh path which abhors agression in all its aspects and which treasures gentle personality aspects and also treasures soft, neutral Eunuch values.

I do hope my contributions in this thread haven't sounded self indulgent, by

thinking and writing I am sure that I am reaching out to other people too.

[sag111 (imported)]

Hello my friend Sac-mec after meeting you a few monthes back i just cant understand anyone herting you.As i found you to be one of the kindest people i have ever met.But the story you tell happens all to often and its the little ones who get hert so badly.Its not always the outward scars that are the worst its the inner scars that never go away that harm us so badley.Hugs to you my friend and thanks for having me in your home that day as I will never forgit that.Your friend SAG111

[billie (imported)]

That is an interesting statement. I've never considered that women have control over their bodies any more than men do.

Hmmmmm. Tiime to go ponder this statement. Anyone

care to comment, elaborate, confirm, or refute?

Hello Folks,

I don't want to get off the subject again but when I said "women have more controll over their bodies than men do" I meant in a "surgical way" . I did not mean this as a blanket statement to that effect. I was of the opinion that the focus of this web site was about people who became eunuchs through surgical or other means or reasons. And control over being and a elective or non-elective eunuch.

To get the ovaries removed, all a woman has to do is say she wants it done to a doctor and it is done. She dosen't have to get permission from anyone. She has sole control.

If a male wants to have his testicles removed he has to have letters from two shrinks saying it is OK. (A male is not capable of making this decision on his own, regarding his testicles) Then finding a surgeon to actually do it is next to impossible without traveling thousands of miles. (A surgeon is affraid he will be accused/ charged with commiting mayhem.) And maybe live as a woman for two years. Even if you don't make a very cute girl. Make sure your endocrinologist thinks it's OK too. (My endocrinologist was acting like (very reluctant) I was wanting to have HIS balls removed.

Or, as an act of desperation, cut them off yourself. (Individual results may vary.) (WARNING!!! SERIOUS INJURY OR EVEN DEATH MAY RESULT)

Chances are, If you think you need you balls removed, then you probably do. Who would know that better than you? What's the problem? Why is it such a big deal to get it done?

If I want a perfectly good tooth pulled I will have no problem getting a dentist to do it. Nor will I have to get a letter from my shrinks addressed to my dentist saying it is OK to pull the tooth. Nor will I have to live like a person with a tooth missing for a year. I will not have to go home get a pair of pliers, reach in my mouth and pull it myself out of desperation. (Individual results may vary.)

Sorry to get off the subject, but I thought I needed to clarify my post.

Thanks Billie.

[Sac_mec (imported)]

Billie, I agree with you totally. I did get your point originally but I'm glad that you affirmed your points. Women have medical choices as you say, men get overlooked and are frequently unable to express their health needs.

I guess because women can become mothers with children that is the priority

of any cash struck health system (and whether state or private) all Health

systems are supportive to women with "Well Womens Clinics" and the focus

is on traditional Biological lines; men aren't expected to complain about health

and too many keep silent and are frightened to access Health care when it is needed for them. Some newspapers here in the UK have actually attacked the public health system for aiding people who wish to become transgendered.

I like to think that medical attitudes are changing both inside the profession

and also within thinking men. Some progress has occured but heaps more needs to happen.

[kristoff]

don't want to get off the subject again but when I said "women have more controll over their bodies than men do" I meant in a "surgical way" . I did not mean this as a blanket statement to that effect. I was of the opinion that the focus of this web site was about people who became eunuchs through surgical or other means or reasons. And control over being and a elective or non-elective eunuch.

For informational purposes, this is a supportive and informational web site for the Eunuch Community. It is open to all who are Eunuch because of any cause, or who will become a eunuch for some reason, as well as those who desire to become eunuchs.

It does not matter if Eunuchism occurs because of disease, genetic process, injury, self-infliction, assaultive occurence, or choosing to become a eunuch of one's own accord. Voluntary, elective castration is obviously a major element here.

Ideally this will be a place where folks can explore the issue, find information, support, and encouragement.

[BudleyBare (imported)]

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To get the ovaries removed, all a woman has to do is say she wants it done to a doctor and it is done. She dosen't have to get permission from anyone. She has sole control.

If a male wants to have his testicles removed he has to have letters from two shrinks saying it is OK. (A male is not capable of making this decision on his own, regarding his testicles)....

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Billie, you were not off topic. And thanks for the clarification, because I now understand the point you were trying to make (and happen to agree with it).