What about herbs
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submissive57200 (imported)
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What about herbs
With all the hype about herbs and their effect on the body is there a herb or combination of hebs that will produce the effect of chemical castration
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Marsha Mar (imported)
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Re: What about herbs
Hops, the stuff they use in beer is a moderate feminizer, as it contains a phytoestrogen, in larger quantities than any other naturally occuring herb. It is available in herb stores. You can get an allergic reaction to black cohosh. Black mold on barley sprouts contains a non-steroidal estrogen. Look up on the web under mycotoxin. It has caused serious breast enlargement in some areas, like China.
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Phole (imported)
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Re: What about herbs
There is a link from BME for a web site on Feminization. I think there is some information there on herbs. The address is something like www.sissyfy. Black cohosh is used in over the counter products and has been recommended to reduce the effects of hot flashes in menopausal women. Another phytoestrogen might be red clover extract which I believe is in the over the counter product "Promensil". good luck.
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madscientist1 (imported)
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madscientist1 (imported) wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:02 pmDon't waste your time & money. I have had great success with Depo-Provera.
Don't waste your time with.... any of that shit. Herbs don't work well if at all. I've had great luck with a surgical knife....
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I always stress trying chemical castration before use of the knife. With Androcur you can stop taking it after a month or two and go back like you were. But once the knife hits, you can not undo it.
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koku (imported)
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Herbs? Not work? Heh...
Some of them, do. In the right combinations, they work very well.
I read a report from back in the '40s or so, about men that were having problems with random impotence. The troublemaker in this case was licorice jelly-beans. ONE SINGLE BEAN a day, (if you eat them long enough) is enough to cause your body to stop ALL testosterone production (of course, all the jelly beans are artifically flavored now, and most licorice pills you can buy have the good part taken out now.)
The Rx drug Prometrium (progesterone) is taken directly from the root of wild yam. It is also chemically identical to human progesterone, and one or two tubers is enough to fill a bottle of pills (a very high yield plant).
Red clover, as was mentioned earlier, contains a fair amount of estrogen, not as strong as Rx stuff, but enough to feminize male cattle in-utero. (and it makes a sweet, colorful addition to a salad)
Dandelion, if memory serves, has both progesterone and estrogen, but not much (also good for munching, if you like salads).
Of course, these won't do much good taken individually, except for the licorice. Why they don't work is because they aren't strong enough to fight the effects of T. Hell, Rx estrogen isn't strong enough to do much without an anti-androgen (unless of course one has had their testicles removed).
Herbs DO work, and they CAN be VERY powerful(though it's probably best to go slow and safe), but you have to research them. Like these people did: www.myevanesce.com I haven't tried anything of theirs (because I hate mail-order), but they seem to have done a lot of work, and there seem to be people happy with their product.
Some of them, do. In the right combinations, they work very well.
I read a report from back in the '40s or so, about men that were having problems with random impotence. The troublemaker in this case was licorice jelly-beans. ONE SINGLE BEAN a day, (if you eat them long enough) is enough to cause your body to stop ALL testosterone production (of course, all the jelly beans are artifically flavored now, and most licorice pills you can buy have the good part taken out now.)
The Rx drug Prometrium (progesterone) is taken directly from the root of wild yam. It is also chemically identical to human progesterone, and one or two tubers is enough to fill a bottle of pills (a very high yield plant).
Red clover, as was mentioned earlier, contains a fair amount of estrogen, not as strong as Rx stuff, but enough to feminize male cattle in-utero. (and it makes a sweet, colorful addition to a salad)
Dandelion, if memory serves, has both progesterone and estrogen, but not much (also good for munching, if you like salads).
Of course, these won't do much good taken individually, except for the licorice. Why they don't work is because they aren't strong enough to fight the effects of T. Hell, Rx estrogen isn't strong enough to do much without an anti-androgen (unless of course one has had their testicles removed).
Herbs DO work, and they CAN be VERY powerful(though it's probably best to go slow and safe), but you have to research them. Like these people did: www.myevanesce.com I haven't tried anything of theirs (because I hate mail-order), but they seem to have done a lot of work, and there seem to be people happy with their product.
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Erika28 (imported)
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Re: What about herbs
Herbs will NOT chemically castrate anyone. You are misinformed.
I don't know about the 1940's but today, herbs available on the market are too weak to achieve castration and the doses required to achieve such a state, if ever possible, would be so high as to put you at high risk of developing a host of complications (i.e. liver toxicity). Just not worth it...Synthetically produced hormones such as estradiol OR progesterone, converted in the lab from diosgenin, found in wild yam, or Premarin, extracted from the urine of pregnant mares may get you closer to chemical castration.
Wild yam taken alone will not be much effective as the human body cannot convert diosgenin to progesterone.
Effects on fetuses cannot be compared to effects on us. Fetuses are much more vulnerable and sensitive.
Estrogen will chemically castrate some, when taken alone. Results vary and one must also differentiate between the different forms of estrogen. Ethinyl estradiol will have a very strong effect on suppressing testosterone as will Premarin, but to a lesser extent. And estradiol, when injected, is very effective at suppressing androgen.
Going with herbs is plain ridiculous, dangerous in doses needed to maybe (only maybe!) castrate you and its content is not even regulated, varies from one bottle to another. Prescription drugs are effective, safer and are regulated. I know of no one who has been chemically castrated on herbs alone.
One must be prudent in interpreting results from sites like evanescence...testimonies may be fake and in the interest of the company selling the product.
Ask any eunuch in this forum: herbs or synthetic drugs? and you'll always get the same answer.
I don't know about the 1940's but today, herbs available on the market are too weak to achieve castration and the doses required to achieve such a state, if ever possible, would be so high as to put you at high risk of developing a host of complications (i.e. liver toxicity). Just not worth it...Synthetically produced hormones such as estradiol OR progesterone, converted in the lab from diosgenin, found in wild yam, or Premarin, extracted from the urine of pregnant mares may get you closer to chemical castration.
Wild yam taken alone will not be much effective as the human body cannot convert diosgenin to progesterone.
Effects on fetuses cannot be compared to effects on us. Fetuses are much more vulnerable and sensitive.
Estrogen will chemically castrate some, when taken alone. Results vary and one must also differentiate between the different forms of estrogen. Ethinyl estradiol will have a very strong effect on suppressing testosterone as will Premarin, but to a lesser extent. And estradiol, when injected, is very effective at suppressing androgen.
Going with herbs is plain ridiculous, dangerous in doses needed to maybe (only maybe!) castrate you and its content is not even regulated, varies from one bottle to another. Prescription drugs are effective, safer and are regulated. I know of no one who has been chemically castrated on herbs alone.
One must be prudent in interpreting results from sites like evanescence...testimonies may be fake and in the interest of the company selling the product.
Ask any eunuch in this forum: herbs or synthetic drugs? and you'll always get the same answer.