Late onset (yet always there)

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Hi all,

(DISCLAIMER: These are the ramblings of a patient, not a professional. I honestly do not consider TG folks to be suffering from mental illness. Because of the late onset in me, I can't rule out the possibility. PLEEZE don't take offense. I love you all. You are cherished friends. One of the reasons I wrote out my life story was to look for prior evidence of TG. As I explained to my mom: "If this is something that was in my past, then it has simply emerged in a new way. On the other hand, if it's entirely new, then maybe I'm going insane.")

Been pondering this malady called gender identity disorder (GID). As some people get older, they get diseases: heart disease, cancer, etc. Other people get mental illness or chemical imbalances. So, am I coming down with a mental illness? If so, it started in November, and castration was a useful band-aid.

Been thinking this thread could be retitled to "DESCENT INTO MADNESS," but then I'd be getting too dramatic.

Christians get physical illnesses like anyone else, and they are not thought to be any less a Christian for it. Christians also come down with mental illnesses, but there's a stigma -- a lurking suspicion in people's minds that maybe the person stumbled somewhere in their Christian journey. "Maybe if they had (or hadn't) done such-and-such, this wouldn't have happened..." Worse yet, "they may have a demon." Seeing how I'm the one afflicted this time, it's been a bit scary: Did I cross the line? Did God leave me? But then I recall how He has been comforting me along this painful journey, so I know He's with me.

With physical illnesses, the treatment options are fairly clear cut, and there's no stigma associated with them. Fellow churchgoers are happy to pray about such things.

With mental illness, treatment is less clear and there's a definite stigma, especially for anything having to do with sexuality. The latter cannot even be mentioned in church.

In the case of this illness, I don't want the cure -- i.e., to be comfortable as a male again. What maleness represents is too distasteful now: To mildly laugh at people's misfortunes. Insensitivity. To have lovemaking as the underlying motive for a pleasant, cooperative exterior at times. Male pride. Thinking so crudely about females at times. 😢

Hoping these deepest feelings and thoughts speak to your heart.

Love,

Terri
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Hi Terry:

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mrt (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:08 pm One reason you might want to talk to your wife about HRT is that she is probably having Anxiety and Anger issues (As I did) when her hormones tanked. "Maybe" (A big maybe) if she gets herself balanced the concept of being (as she put it) a lesbian with you won't seem so bad. And if your love
mrt (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:12 pm life improves...

...As to sleep loss, try Progesterone Cream 1/4 tablespoon at bedtime and another when you wake up. If your wife is conce
rned - It should have no feminizing characteristics.

Hi Mr. T,

Thanks for contributing to the thread.
bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:46 am When my wife lost interest in sex, I envied her
and considered her fortunate. I never once prayed she would recover her interest. I certainly had some anger issues when sexual frustration was skyrocketing, but (thank God) I was able to genuinely forgive/accept. She offered to see a doc about it back then, but I said it wasn't necessary.

But she may have some anger. She said there are TERRIBLE things she has to hold back from saying to me and our son because of her hormonal changes.

The thought of her recovering interest is a little scary. I'm asexual now. Who wants to do that yucky stuff? (I jest somewhat, but there's truth mixed in.)

I'll keep progesterone cream in mind if the sleep problems continue. Thanks. Already looked it up on the internet to find out more. Slept well last night, and even got some cuddling this morning.

Terri
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Hi again Terri:

Look I know this is all going to sound weird but when my hormones tanked I fully understood that bit about sex being "icky" I can relate it to the feeling a kid has when he hears how he was conceived. Remember how we thought "Oh at least they only did it 3 times (3 kids)" Then you went through puberty and laughed at how crazy or dumb you must have been then?

I was at that kid stage and only made love to my wife when she made a federal case of it. The changes in my hormones had a lot of really weird things going on in my head. Things really got weird. Guys even seemed kind of interesting. And let me tell you for Mr T that is WAY out there. When I got all the hormones back into normal range it was like being reborn in a way. What I felt were pure mental decisions like "I don't want sex or its gross or that cute girl looks like a slut etc" all shifted to a normal desire to seek sexual pleasure. I lost the anger I had with low T. My "depression" went away. My mental fog lifted and I was now interested in sex. Sex with my wife went from once a month to 5 or 6 times a week. And happy? Very much so!

When I didn't have them I (like you) was a little worried that I would be "controlled" by hormones. And perhapes with enough of them I would be!? On HRT I feel normal again and love being able to love my wife and not be tired, angry and all the rest that went with low T. Now, I know this is just me. Some of the guys here had real serious issues with hormones and are much happier without them. If I for example had sex urges for kids, dogs, cats etc I would be the first in line for castration and NO hrt. If the only thing I could think about was sex "ditto" If I felt compelled to be female they would be off in a flash and I would be mixing estrogen and progesterone with just enough testosterone to put me in the normal range for female-ness.

But then I would be Mrs T?!?! ;-)
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Hi all,

Previous diary entry has been running thru my mind: "
bryan (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:12 am In the case of this illness, I don't want the cure -- i.e., to be comfortable as a male again. What
it represents is too distasteful to me." Occurred to me I've always had higher respect for women than men. Generalities are involved, certainly, but it seems men have a "goofball" side, and the saying is true that "females mature sooner."

* * *

Praise the Lord! My marriage has been preserved. Wrote up "here on out" nuptial agreement which lays out what is/isn't acceptable. Got nearly everything I wanted. (Much easier since I'm not planning to transition. Not comfortable taking active feminization measures, but I'll gladly take whatever I get from castration.) Some bits and pieces:

- Avoid skipping in public places.

- Weeping in church and in public is okay. (But no howling! :))

- Don’t pick out household linens on own.

- No further surgery (e.g., penectomy).

- No cross-dressing.

- No female hormones. Not even soy products.

- Won’t discuss any of these issues except with sister and mom [and wife].

- Okay to discuss castration with family/friend facing it.

Biggest wins (ones I was most concerned about):

- Hugs/snuggling/kisses [with wife] are okay.

- Actively communicate with folks at EA.

- Okay to never have testosterone again.

- If breasts develop, okay to refuse surgery. Will show proper modesty (including shirt in bed).

- Okay to trim body hair to 1/4-inch.

Maybe the biggest disappointment: No female play/story characters [with our son] unless necessary for storyline. Ever since the gender-shift a year ago, I've enjoyed playing female as well as male characters with his "action" figures.

Got some GOOD snuggling last night, with wife holding me. Yum!

* * *

Haven't forgotten that the Lord accepted my offer to work in Heaven's nursery as a mom. Going to keep that locked up in my heart till the day I leave planet Earth. My ambitions have dried up; now I'm just interested in child care/play/nurturing.

Terri
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Hi all,

With regard to HRT, one reason I'm not considering it (among all the other reasons) is I couldn't hack growing bald. Baldness was never a big concern for me before castration. But now that concern for appearance has increased, the thought of becoming bald is scary. I look at men's hairlines and think, "Not gonna happen to me!"

One of the COGIATI questions took me by surprise: "You will never, ever be a woman. You must live the rest of your days entirely as a man, and you will only get more masculine with each passing year. There is no way out. What is your reaction?" Status quo is passable, but get MORE masculine over time? Ugh! Guess it's talking about baldness, hair coming out ears/nose, bushy eyebrows, etc. That would hurt. Makes me glad I already have T out of my system.

Funny thing: Still wear a [neatly-trimmed] beard. Doesn't cause any dysphoria. A mustache by itself, on the other hand, is such a macho thing. Couldn't stand having one. Seen enough soft, programmer types (like myself :)) to know beards aren't macho.

Had a dream a few weeks ago where I had a long, feminine hair style. Liked it and was sad upon waking up.

Terri
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Hi all,

Thought it would be fun to look at some flashbacks, from one month post-castration until recently.

At the one-month anniversary, felt like all my problems were solved, and there was a cocky tone:

Before castration, I had toyed with the idea of penectomy. Much thought went into getting rid of "it." But now my genitalia dysphoria has faded nearly completely. With libido gone, there's nothing to fuel the dysphoria, it seems...I'm pleased with my castration, but I'm only a month into this change of life. Seems the closest I'll come to being a woman is having hot flashes and taking women's vitamins.

At two months, my problems were still gone, but noticed I was pulling away from manhood:

With the loss of libido, my dysphoria about male equipment has just about evaporated. Not that I’m thrilled with a penis. The thing just doesn’t distress me as much anymore. My desire for female things has pretty much gone away, too...As a result of this entire experience, my mental identity has shifted from being a man to something inbetween the sexes. I’m not going for SRS, but I’ve gained a distaste for certain male characteristics and am glad to be divorced from them.

Two weeks later, a problem showed up:

...My thought was: "Who has time or attention to think about the appearance of the bathroom!!?? When I'm in there, it's the stuff between my legs that gets the attention and causes all the anxiety." I guess I was particularly sensitive because the day before, on a trip to the bathroom, Mr. Penis was a bit enlarged with veins appearing (yuck). So I had a good cry later in the shower.

At four months, started noticing contradictions in my inner and outer self and became bothered by them:

Though I have no plans to transition, I look at my chest each day in hope of seeing development. (No HRT.) So there are some contradictions in my life.

Two weeks later, started dealing with identity issues:

My mother said I was 'sensitive' as a child (sensitive in a good sense: sensitive to others feelings), and I feel like I'm REDISCOVERING WHO I WAS before T came on the scene. I identify with women now more than men. ('Those brutes!' ) Stories of sexual abuse tear at me like never before. Tears come, and that's okay since I've stepped out of my narrowly-defined male role (internally, at least).

Toyed with idea of third gender, as you recall:

http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7982

Then started calling my problem genital hatred:

My libido morphed into genital hatred. When libido was on the rise, it manifested itself as genital hatred, not a desire for sex. I have completely disassociated from Mr. Penis and would like the ugly thing to go away. (NOTE: I was a fairly normal guy before. I fondly referred to my equipment as 'Little Bryan'. TG issues were pretty well buried.) Once you reach genital hatred, castration is a logical way out. Much safer, too, than the other things I was doing to the genitals at the time.

At five and a half months, recognized TG issues remained:

Not that all my problems are solved. Had a low time this evening. I've been castrated but still have some TG desires. No plans to transition, so what's a eunuch to do? I identify more with women, but can't join their circles as peers. Some spots on my legs give me hope that leg hair will be going away. That makes me happy, but the contradictions between the outer me and the inner me are sad.

Bummed out by realization my problems weren't all gone. Few days later, wrote out life story in a search for identity and posted it.

Some journeys don't go the way you planned. Yet, I was thanking God this morning for who I am. Guess I'd rather be female on the inside and live uncomfortably in a male body than be a comfortable male.

Terri
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Hi all,

Just an update to let you know how things are:

Sleep has gotten much better. Guess the gender-identity upheaval combined with marriage upheaval made for poor sleep. With acceptance/resolution, things have settled down, making for better sleep. Things are feeling stable now. I'm content enough with my new state and newly-recognized identity.

May have to stop looking at Mr. Penis in the bathroom. I'll do fine for awhile, but then a glance at Mr. Penis will stop me dead in my tracks mentally. What a revolting thing. When I talked with my sister and mom during my identity crisis, gave them this analogy to help them understand my situation: "Imagine a female waking up one day and discovering a penis down there." That sunk in.

As you recall, I'm hoping to work
bryan (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:40 am in Heaven's nursery for aborted
children. There was foreshadowing of that in August when my family saw the BodyWorlds exhibition in Chicago. The exhibition shows "plasticized" bodies (without skin). Anyway, there was a room off to the side containing preserved fetuses from miscarriages and stillborns. I wanted to go in that room and tried three separate times to enter, but each time the tears came so hard I knew I couldn't go further.

Assuming things remain stable, I probably won't be contributing to this thread as often. So if you have any comments/questions, now is as good a time as any.

Terri

🌹You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride;

you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain. 🌹

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From what I've read this sounds like classic transexualism to me. Maybe a visit to a Doctor who works with this could help you find a direction to go. They might be able to help your wife as well.
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Hi all,

Things have been stable.

When my wife saw me looking especially content, she asked how I was doing. "Pretty good. Stable."

"Just stable?" she said with disappointment on her face. Guess she was hoping I was feeling more male again.

* * *

In case you are wondering what I think about TG and Christianity, take a peek:
bryan (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:37 pm http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/show
post.php?p=50947&postcount=2

An article in the "Castration in the Arts and News" forum got my dander up.

I don't EVER want to see a transgendered person reject Christianity (or commit suicide), thinking God doesn't want anything to do with them.

* * *

I get little cues each day my personality isn't male anymore. When my 5yo son is roughhousing, he sometimes tweaks my breasts. (Tiny ones.) It hurts and I feel violated. Just about makes me cry. Plus, makes me feel like a second-class citizen since I can't say, "You can't touch Daddy in those places."

I've usually been sparse with my words and uninterested in chit-chat. However, I've been getting chattier -- more interested in people's lives, actually. In the last week, a female at work and an aunt had to be the ones to close our conversations.

When I attended a major league baseball game in August (boring, but free tix and opportunity to spend time with family), I didn't eat or drink a thing because I WAS NOT GOING TO GO IN THAT BATHROOM!

Not looking forward to the next time I cut my hair. (Been cutting it myself for six years.) It will hurt cutting it at the usual length. Would like to grow it long.

Happy to be the female I've always wanted to be. The change just doesn't show on the outside. :)

Terri
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Hi all,

Since I write most posts offline, I have backups for the months which got lost. Edited somewhat.

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10/24/2005

Didn't expect to be writing again so soon. Had one of those "I'm not normal anymore" moments this morning:

Came back to the bedroom after breakfast and saw one of my son's teddy bears on my nightstand. First thought was, "Did I slip up? Did I sleepwalk and bring it to bed?" Then I thought, "No. He probably brought it with him when he came in this morning." Then my instinct was to seat the bear properly on my nightstand instead of leaving him flopped on his belly. Caught myself: "No, Bryan, that's not gender-appropriate behavior."

When my wife was on a trip recently, I kept some stuffed animals on the made-up bed and slept with them as well. So that's who I am when no one is around. That's NOT the old me.

* * *

Who doesn't crave acceptance? All of us, at some level, feel the need to be accepted. We may hide certain parts of ourselves in order to gain acceptance. But with TG-ism, acceptance is nearly impossible (if we open up), and we end up hiding so much of ourselves since gender is such a pervasive thing. Not good for the psyche.

Of course, this spills over to our spiritual lives as well: "God knows EVERYTHING about me. Does He accept me?" I was bothered by my TV desires before castration, figuring, "What am I to do? I desperately want
bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:47 pm to wear ladies underwear again.
God looks at the heart. If this is in my heart, does it matter that I don't act on it? The heart is very important to God, as the Sermon on the Mount demonstrates ('if a man looks at a woman lustfully, he has committed adultery in his heart'). So what's the point of not acting on it?" It seemed not acting on it didn't make me any more 'righteous'. That was where I was at before castration.

Castration took away the TV desires. In fact, I had set July 6th (three-months post-op) as the day of decision -- to see how I felt about wearing ladies underwear. When the day arrived, the desires were gone. I was 'clean'. Wonderful. "Guess that's over with."

So it was quite a surprise/shock six weeks later when I realized TG stuff wasn't over with. So I honestly want to be a girl AND I see feminine traits showing up in my personality. I can't get castrated again; no, that last-ditch 'remedy' has been used up. There's nothing left in my arsenal. My willpower was already failing. God looks at the heart. Plus, (as that quote in the first post of this thread indicates), a Divine cure was unlikely. That's when the tears came pouring out.

So -- do I feel accepted by God, TG and all? Yes. He's been in communication with me, reassuring me. Would I feel right cross-dressing? No, but mainly due to marriage and parenthood, plus it's not an irresistable drive now. Would I transition if I were single? I'm probably not TG enough for that sort of step. I'm not a frilly/glamour type; more of a 'mom' figure. But I could definitely see getting a penectomy with some feminization. Maybe I'd adopt a more androgenous look. Hard to say.

Wow... Sure didn't expect to write this much when I sat down. You're getting this stuff stright from the heart. Hope you find some measure of comfort/satisfaction in it.

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10/25/2005

Interesting quote from Grace and Lace website:
bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:47 pm http://members.tgforum.com/bobbyg/
lives.html

Perhaps, had I met an early death from an accident or some disease, I would have never come to the crisis point in my life that essentially every transsexual eventually reaches. The repression, the continual striving to appear "normal" and the incredible psychological burden to maintain such an elaborate facade over decades of one's life eventually leads all of us to a point where it is impossible to go on any more. We become so depressed and despondent, some even to the point where we think we are losing our very grip on reality, that there is no longer any real "choice" any more. If we do not acknowledge who we are inside and attempt to deal with it some positive way, then our only other option is death. That is why there is such a high incidence of suicide amongst the transsexual population. That is also why so many intelligent, highly motivated, professional-type people end up transitioning in their late forties and early fifties- they have gone on for so very long, trying not to fail all of those who depend on them. But we are all eventually worn down and become unable to repress what we have always known about ourselves from an early age. So we "crash" in one way or another, some more spectacularly than others. But then we begin the long process of resurrecting our true selves from the ashes of our old false identity; a painful course of action for not only ourselves, but also for our families, friends and nearly everyone associated with us. The only reason we go on through such an excruciating and complex process called "transition" (involving hormone therapy, gender counseling, hundreds of hours of electrolysis (for M to F transsexuals) and, for most, multiple surgeries) is that there is no alternative, other than psychological (or a literal) death.

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11/02/2005

Remember that "neatly-trimmed beard that doesn't cause any dysphoria"? The more I look at it, the uglier it gets. The grey is very patchy among the brown, and there's a thin spot on the side I've always tolerated out of desire to have a beard. Decided it was time for it to go, but figured I better run the idea past my wife first.

Just had a tearful time in front of my wife. She says 'no' to getting rid of the beard. She says it looks nice, and that's how she and our son know me. She added, "Seems like you want to get rid of anything that says 'male'." She guessed right. I was speechless and just started weeping, thinking, "Yup. Just gotta buckle down and keep the facade going."

Life is up and down these days. During some parts of the day, I wonder, "What's the problem? I feel pretty normal." Then later, I'll feel fragile. Maybe just being tired will get me weepy. Today I read more about GID and said to myself, "I can't believe I'm transsexual. Why did this happen to me? Like what am I supposed to do?" (Hmmm.... so maybe I'm not doing so well with self-acceptance today.)

And you know what really hurts? Thinking of you who ARE transitioning, but without support from those close to you. Hoping SO MUCH that you'll be able to pass wonderfully, yet you have to deal with the lasting effects of testosterone. I want to hug you tight and say, "It's going to be okay." Believe me, my prayers are with you.

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11/07/2005

Some memories which came to mind this weekend:

- In college, tweezed my nipple hairs. (Very painful.) Guess that was when chest hair was coming in, and didn't like the look. Gave up after awhile.

- When I got a place of my own, shaved my legs and painted my toenails. (Bright purple, in case you are wondering.)

- After divorce from first marriage, started wearing ladies underwear fulltime. Didn't stop even if I was going to be in a lockerroom; wore 'Jockey for her' white hiphuggers on those days.

* * *

For transsexuals, I suppose the question is: Do you prefer Pain A or Pain B? Pain A is the pain/dysphoria already being experienced and is a 'known'. It can be alleviated to an extent by castration and/or other measures. Pain B is the pain of transitioning and is an unknown. In successful cases, it eventually results in less pain.

During a family gathering this weekend, studied faces for gender cues. "What is it like," I wondered, "for transitioned individuals when they are 50-60 years old at such gatherings?" First of all, are they accepted by family? Second, do others ever get past the TSism and simply see the person as they are? What is it like speaking in a different voice for the rest of your life? Does it come natural after awhile, or does it always take effort? Guess that's what got me thinking about Pain A and Pain B. No guarantee that transitioning will alleviate the pain.

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To Polecat,

You are singing my wife's song. She says I'm still within the range for sensitive males. It all depends on how one defines gender. If anatomy is the determining factor, then any and all personality quirks can be made to fit within the definition. Wish there were an objective way to determine gender outside of anatomy. Even the gender tests explain they aren't to be trusted and don't replace thorough introspection.

When this 'sensitive male' sees bananas or hot dogs which have been cut, he wishes it were that easy to do to his own 'banana'. This sensitive male prefers doing cleanup at a gathering instead of staying at the table for conversation with the men. I'm sensitive toward women's issues but haven't the same sensitivity for men's issues.

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11/15/2005

Was touched Saturday night while reading 'Velveteen Rabbit' to my 5yo son at bedtime, and cried for awhile afterward. Wasn't able to return to a family gathering in progress. You see, the velveteen rabbit went from ordinary stuffed animal to 'Real' in the eyes of the boy he belonged to. That's where I'm at: my gender identity shifted to female a year ago. I've wanted to be female in the past, and am one inside now. Feel I'm 'Real' now. The sad part came when the velveteen rabbit was out on the grass with two live rabbits. He couldn't do the things they did, and they didn't accept him. With this male body, I'm like Rudolf the red-nosed reindeer and can't join females in any of their "reindeer games."

Still not desiring a 'cure' for the gender shift. The present is preferable to the past.

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12/01/2005

Kind of amusing: At our Thanksgiving gathering while folks were gathered around the TV watching football, I remarked to the hostess, "Where did you ever get lampshades that match your wallpaper so well?" As soon as the words were out, I realized "Oops! Men don't notice such things, much less ask about them."

While talking with AlyssaBelle offline, came to realize I don't have any sort of plan for dealing with my gender dysphoria -- which will probably only increase with time. My only strategy so far has been "hope death comes soon." I envy people who have died. While passing the local funeral home last night, looked at the sign and said to myself, "Who's the lucky one today?"

Seems like I notice every baby these days. Was cursing my body last night since (in this day of heightened concern about child molestation) it's just not appropriate for male adults to show big interest in babies. I myself would be suspicious of any male showing too much interest in babies.

Due to anguish last night, wondered whether to try to be a content male again. But figured, "No. DENIAL is not going to help." If I'm noticing whether lampshades match wallpaper, this is who I am. I've embraced everything castration has brought, so I've passed the 'hormone test' for transsexuals.

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12/05/2005

Maybe I'm not doing so well. You're right, Alyssa -- I don't know where this will all lead, and it scares me. Don't know how long I can "hold on." I wonder whether to shift careers to work in an orphanage, but prospective employers won't want a gender-dysphoric person.

The dysphoria continues: The hair on my legs bugs me. I hope (in vain) it will fall out. Lately, I've been vigorously scrubbing my legs in the shower in a futile gesture hoping the hair will thin out as a result. Same goes for chest hair. I look at my face/hair/high-hairline in the mirror and think: 'ugly'.

Been looking for ways to find relief. Considered whether wearing ladies underwear would help, but not likely. Afraid it would just mock my desires.

Had an erotic dream last night which bothered for two reasons. One, it was adulterous, but two, I was acting in the male role. The thought of acting in the male role sexually has become distasteful. Glad to be asexual at this point. Much simpler!

Little plusses: Started using P cream again and it has the effect of pooching out the nipples a little. Like the look; gives me a little lift emotionally.

Started praying (today) that the Lord would take me home. Yes, the future scares me. At the very least, the Lord can correct/rebuke these prayers and change my thinking in some way. And I wonder still what the Lord thinks of the dysphoria, whether it's repulsive to Him. I sure hope not, and I don't sense it spiritually. But GD is sure a vile disease in the eyes of most earth-dwellers. So I'm back to wanting to cease to exist, at times.

Can't believe I am writing this.

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12/07/2005

Spoke with my wife Monday night, mentioning everything from that day's post (except the little plus from P cream ☺️). Told her why I'm praying for death: I don't see any good outcomes if I remain. Just maintaining status quo is a struggle, and productivity at work is lousy. But if I transition, I've screwed up my family life, my job, and will lose my boy. And I'm not even sure I have enough "umph" to do a good job at passing. Secondary TSs (as ones at my age are called) are known to not make as much effort to fully adopt female mannerisms. Therapists say "they don't try hard enough." Plus, I can't justify all the expense on myself. As I told my wife several times thru the discussion: I just don't see any good outcomes.

Previously I've held some things back from my wife, for fear of losing her and her respect. She's insisted the personality changes in me were still within range for sensitive males. So I told her the other aspects Monday night, so she could grasp the extent of the gender shift: desiring a female role in sex and hoping for breasts.

My wife cried. She mentioned the possibility of me taking T (as suggested by the Christian counselor we spoke to), but I recoil at the thought. Told her (tearfully) our boy is the only good I have to show for my years with testicles/T. Sex was always a problematic area for me. I don't want libido/fantasies to return. It's been 87 days since I masturbated, but who's counting?

She's decided to pray and do an extended fast. If she's praying for me to be 'male' again, I hope the prayers aren't answered. After all (as I've said before), I've always wanted to be female and now I am [on the inside]. But I'm hoping the Lord will reveal to her His thoughts about this whole situation.

This may sound a little weird. (And the rest isn't, Bryan?) Just as a loving wife may say as she offers herself to her husband, "Enjoy yourself," I've offered myself to the Lord. I'm totally His, to do with as He wishes.

Something about work: What's getting me thru these days is listening to Christian music. When I slip on the headphones and put in a CD, it's like I'm all gassed up and ready to go. Guess it provides some distraction. But the words are touching/helpful, too. The following song has been particularly touching this week (edited to remove repetition and add expression):

"I'll Lead You Home" by Michael W. Smith and Wayne Kirkpatrick

Wandering the road of desperate life

Aimlessly beneath the barren sky

So afraid that you will not be found

It won’t be long before your sun goes down

Just leave it to me

I’ll lead you home

A troubled mind and a doubter’s heart

You wonder how you ever got this far

Vultures of darkness ate the crumbs you left

And you got no way to retrace your steps

You’re lost and alone

Leave it to me

I’ll lead you home

So let it go and turn it over to

The one who chose to give his life for you

Just leave it to me

I’ll lead you home

To Mr. T: Regarding hormone levels before castration: They weren't tested, but libido was out of control and I was masturbating at least every other day. So I think it's safe to conclude my T was within normal range. I *was* wondering if the balance had been upset, like excess DHT or something like that. At the time, I scanned the internet to see if T levels ever increased with age (like a flameout), but didn't find anything.

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12/8/2005

Life is about to get more interesting: DISCLOSURE. Wife couldn't hold it in any longer and told her mom (whom we live with). Wife is also spending the day with her best friend, and she has my permission to reveal whatever. She needs an outlet to discuss these things.

Started taking Estroven (herbal/soy OTC menopausal-symptom relief) as a trial to see how I like its effects. Within 6 hours, started feeling better. Was even dancing around toward bedtime. Package says it takes most users 7-10 days to see effects. Guess I'm so low on hormones, doesn't take much to get me going. Interesting thing: nipples were pooched out after only 12 hours, similar to P cream's effects. (Had stopped using P cream again since I don't like any life returning to Mr. Penis.)

Long chat with wife last night. Heard the dreaded words: "Your gender shift wasn't from the Lord." No, maybe not. But nor is cancer from the Lord, but Christians have to deal with it nonetheless. She wonders how I can pray for death, thus leaving her and our child. Reminded her I might be absent from their lives anyway if the TS-ism gets out of control. That's why the future is scary: when I was scrubbing my legs futilely in the shower (to get hair off), I wasn't being rational -- just desperate. Told her I can't fight the gender shift anyway. I like who I am inside now and don't want that to change, even if it puts me at odds with my body. Figure the mind/spirit is who we are, and the body is merely a vehicle which will return to dust someday.

Sounds like she's going to be a stickler regarding the nuptial agreement we made a couple of months ago. The Estroven is a violation, but I was being up front about it. Figured it's an improvement over praying for death. When we made the agreement, I was fine with it. The boundaries were ones I could easily live with -- at the time. Little did I know things would progress. At this point, I don't know if I'll have the will to abide by the agreement. Remember, weakening willpower was one of my reasons for castration.

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12/9/2005

Mother-in-law said the right thing when I approached her for the "I know you know" opening chat. She said, "I love you. I can only imagine the pain you must feel" plus some other affirmations. So far, so good.

Wife's friend, on the other hand, "is going to need some space" before we are in each other's company again. (Heard this thru wife.)

Wife is going to look for another Christian counselor. From all she's said, I think she wants someone else to tell me to get on T again. You know what? If I think about it for more than 30 seconds, I literally tremble/shake at the thought of having T in me again.

Still praying for death. Occurred to me I've never had a strong "life force" or will to live. Had a recurring dream in early childhood (ages 3-4): Some in the community had been arbitrarily chosen for death, and I was one of them. During the rounding up and incarceration, I was compliant/docile. While those ahead of me were being killed, I was still pretty nonchalant. But when it came my turn to be killed, I said to myself something to the effect of, "I don't have to put up with this" and escaped (woke up). I'm wondering if that dream is finding fulfillment now:

In bed this morning, was feeling hurt and rejected. Imagined telling my wife, "You rejected your husband and now you have me." She frankly admits she wanted her body to herself when we stopped making love. I guess the whole situation a year ago had the effect of causing a death in me. That was okay, because I didn't like that part of me. But now the new person in me -- the one I really like, the one I was before puberty -- is threatened with death. Something is rising up within me saying, "I don't have to put up with this."

Seems like there are three options:

a. Go back on T and try to be a man. (Gag.)

b. Find a middle road (close to status quo) where my new identity can live without too much discomfort.

c. Transition. (Don't want to lose family.)

Starting to form an idea of what to pray for at this point. Grace/power to maintain the status quo and/or wisdom to decide upon a maintainable status quo. At times I wonder why maintaining status quo should be so hard. Then I find myself absent-mindedly looking at my hands, thinking, "they're not like man's hands -- they should help me pass..." I've always appreciated my slender fingers.

My wife is the disciplinarian in the family, and I'm feeling some of that sterness directed at me. If she tries to use "tough love" to get me to choose option A, I'm afraid it will backfire.

*ADDENDUM*

Wife just mentioned possible cost with counselor and said, "It will be worth every penny to preserve our family." Makes me sad because I really didn't understand the following verse until going to Philly for castration: "If one were to give all the wealth of his house for love, it would be utterly scorned" (Song of Solomon 8:7). Paying $2700 (surgery and travel expenses) was worth it to preserve our relationship. I grasped the meaning of the verse: What one has to give up for love, one can scorn, for love is that dear. I didn't think about what else $2700 could buy -- it was worth it.

Thanks for listening. Writing this diary is good therapy, and I appreciate your input.

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12/21/2005

Just a short update in case you've been concerned. Doing pretty well. Not praying for death. More comfortable inside this body.

Would you believe my gender identity appears to be shifting some, backing off the female side? Maybe I'm in the center. Feeling somewhat genderless for the past few days. Not sure what to attribute it to. Most likely it is an answer to prayers from my wife, wife's mother, and wife's friend. Certainly not by any inclination on my part.

Don't know if this shift is imagined and/or temporary. Just wanted to let you know I'm past the really low point.

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01/03/2006

I'm still in wonder at how emotions have changed with castration. Gives one a peek into the human condition. I can understand how T masks/diminishes some emotions, but castration doesn't yield the same emotions as a post-menopausal woman; such women certainly don't weep as easily as I do these days. Instead, they have to be concerned about anger and irritability according to my wife. Makes me wonder what "base-level" emotions are for humans and how hormones (or lack thereof) modify them. If pressed for an answer, I'd say my emotions are like a child's. Tears and laughter come easily.

Regarding gender issues, had an up-and-down time over the holidays while visiting my parents. On the trip out, seemed I was scoping out every baby in the airport terminal. (Gives new meaning to the expression "scoping the babes." :)) On the trip back, was studying gender features/cues unconsciously. When I'd catch myself doing it, was annoyed one can't escape encountering gender. Look at any scene of people and you encounter gender. Alcoholics can avoid alcohol. Drug addicts can avoid drugs. But TGs can't avoid gender.

Saw some childhood photos of myself while at my parents. Three had me posing with dolls at age four. Guess dolls were a big enough thing in my life that it got preserved on film. (The dolls belonged to my older sister, but I played with the
bryan (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:27 pm m.)

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02/07/2006

Yesterday was the 10-month anniversary of my trip to Philadelphia. I still thank God every day for the surgery and lack of libido.

The transgendering is still there, but it's not overpowering and not in the foreground. My emotions have tempered somewhat. Rarely get the fragile feeling. Guess my body is adjusting to no testosterone. (Still no HRT of any sort.)

Haven't been very active on the message board lately because my TG-ing disqualifies me from many discussions. Hardly fair for a TG to advise a straight male to cut off his balls, saying, "You'll love the effects! I sure do!"

Besides peanut butter, it appears fresh spinach has an effect on my male parts. Had a fully-hard morning missle after a couple of days with servings of spinach. Disappointing in a way, because I was hoping to make it a regular part of my diet.

One fringe benefit of the TG-ing for my wife is I regularly help her make the bed or make it myself. I'd feel like a chauvanistic oaf now leaving it to her alone. I also enjoy my times of washing dishes. My wife and I are doing well together, and the cuddling is delicious.

Looking back over the last 6-12 months, it's been a scary time of self-discovery. I previously thought I was a straight male with perverted tendencies. Castration would cure me, right? The perversions departed but TG-ing emerged, no longer cloaked by the transvestite desires. It was a scary realization, but I've adjusted for the most part. This is who I am. It has made the past more comprehensible.

Bryan
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