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I'm still fairly new, so if you want you can see my intro post in eunuch central.

Now that I have been surgically castrated, I am wondering a couple of things about my hair. You can tell that my testosterone levels were probably high because aside from acne and thick body hair, my scalp hair has already started to go at only age 20.

It isn't much but just a little bit at the temples. Not really noticeable to anyone who isn't looking for it and can easily be covered with other hair. Nonetheless, I'd welcome any regrowth. I'm wondering if this is possible because I am not completely bald in those areas - there are still plenty of thin and fine hairs all over. Could those hairs thicken up again? Would taking estrogen help at all?

The other thing is more TG related. I have the typical male hairline, and I was wondering if anyone knows if transplants to round it out a bit are possible. I don't believe estrogen affects the shape of the hairline, does it?
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plix (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:38 pm I'm still fairly new, so if you want you can see my intro post in eunuch central....Now that I have been surgically castrated, I am wondering a couple of things about my hair...my scalp hair has already started to go at only age 20...I'd welcome any regrowth. I'm wondering if this is possible because I am not completely bald in those areas - there are still plenty of thin and fine hairs all over. Could those hairs thicken up again? Would taking estrogen help at all?...I have the typical male hairline, and I was wondering if anyone knows if transplants to round it out a bit are possible. I don't believe estrogen affects the shape of the hairline, does it?

I didn't comment on the other thread. I was goin' to mention that having yourself castrated at such a young age would mitigate the gender issue from a hair viewpoint. As long as you remain free of testosterone, further balding should be prevented. You'll have at least what you've got now pretty much the rest of your life. And you'll also be spared any further thickening of other body hair. It's mostly the lack of androgens that will provide these results. I don't think it matter much what you decide vis-a-vis estrogen. I'd wait and see about the hairline contour.
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I agree that any further balding should be halted now after castration. I've heard some girls taking estrogens have regrown some hair. I think your chances are good the fine hair will grow back thicker although I'm not sure how no HRT will affect any further regrowth. I'm told once a hair folical dies, there's no chance for it to grow back unless it is very recent.

You can't tell from my picture, but I have pretty severe temple hair line receeding. I wear my hair in such a fashion to hide it. I have had little regrowth since being on female hormones. I did notice there was a line of less than 1/4 inch of new, fine hairs along the hair line. Nothing has regrown along the temples. I've also tried Welbutrin/Proscar to try and regrow some, but it never worked. My doctor also suggested I try Rogaine, I've yet to do that.

As far as body hair, I noticed the biggest changes for me happened after my surgery. I was on HRT 3 1/2 years prior to surgery and had a good bit of body hair loss, but it was more dramatic after surgery. My lower arms and the front of my abdomin still have the greatest amounts of hair, but much finer now. Upper arms/chest, back and legs are almost devoid of hair, just an extremely fine fuzz.
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One of the comments you find in literature about eunuchs is that pre-pubertal eunuchs never went bald, while post-puberty eunuchs with some hair loss had it stop.

When my own T. levels plunged, the hair loss I had remained constant with no new loss happening. None of it came back, though. About 50% of the body hair below the neck fell out.

The short duration of Test.-HRT that I had undid all of that, then I stopped it. Recommendation - if you start, don't stop. It's double the problems. In my case, though - and perhaps it was the brand or type of HRT - it made me sicker than the proverbial dog. Having had sick dogs before, I can attest to this old proverb.

If I can get the OCR text scanning to work, I'll post a few pages from a medical text I have.
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Both men and women would have very long hair if it was allowed to grow to its natural length.

Scalp hair is therefore mainly a species signal. However, the hair on our heads is associated, albeit unconsciously, with sexual activity, and in many cultures, cutting if off symbolized castration, something that figures prominently in folk tales. When Delilah shaved off the seven locks of Samson’s head, he lost his strength and virility. The awesome event of forcibly cutting off a man’s hair or shaving his head was the final insult and a great indignity. Members of holy orders, Buddhists, Taoists, and Christians, often shaved their heads as outward signs of celibacy. The Friar Tuck hairstyle of European monks, with its crescent of hair surrounding a bald patch (the tonsure), was also a sign to the world that they were neutered and chaste.

And as men grow old, they tend to lose their hair almost in synchrony with their virility—a valuable social signal fading with time. Men can go bald for several reasons, but the one that millions of men have in common is the dreaded “male pattern baldness.”

Balding men may try to fool their children for years with explanations for why they are becoming shiny on top. Being scalped by Indians is probably the hardest for kids to swallow. Frightened by ghosts is no better. And it doesn’t help to provide them with a long list of famous heroes who were also bald, like Julius Caesar. They could of course try a super bluff and say that the majority of the male population including Rambo wears a wig.

But, there comes a time when the truth has to be faced and little Henry has to be told that somewhere tucked away in his chromosomes are baldness genes. These hormones work only if there is enough male hormone around. In fact, if little Henry had been castrated, he could have taken a full head of hair with him to his grave.

Eunuchs, who have no testicles and therefore little male hormone, do not become bald. If they’ve started to become a little bald before they are castrated, their hair pattern “freezes” and only begins to regress again with treatment with male hormone. So becoming bald depends on three things: age; baldness genes; and male hormone. Because eunuchs never lost their hair, the myth started that bald men produced buckets of male hormone and were exceptionally virile.

In fact this is probably one of the great topics of conversation when men who are thin on top get together. When a famous celebrity was asked if he felt baldness improved sexual potency he replied, “Possibly, but it gives a man fewer chances of proving it.” Although one scientific report(presumably by bald-headed authors) has shown that bald men do have higher levels of male hormone in their blood, the majority believe that just normal levels are necessary for the bald genes to work.

pp 36-37

From "The Male Sexual Machine, An Owner's Manual" by Kenneth Purvis, MD, PhD.
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Christina (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:45 am My doctor also suggested I try Rogaine, I've yet to do that.

I was thinking about maybe trying some Rogaine. I used a little in the past but had to stop because there was too much flaking. Rogaine is not supposed to work on the temples, but would there be a better chance if one is castrated?
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plix (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:17 pm I was thinking about maybe trying some Rogaine. I used a little in the past but had to stop because there was too much flaking. Rogaine is not supposed to work on the temples, but would there be a better chance if one is castrated?
Paolo wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:53 am If they’ve started to become a little bald before they are castrated, their hair pattern “freezes” and only begins to regress again with treatment with male hormone.

More than likely, with no male HRT, the temples won't pull back any further.
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PLIX,

Find yourself a nice Gay Beautician. See what they say.

If you need to re-grow hair find a good dermatologist.

Don't worry. You are going to be O.K.

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What I really need is for it to grow fuller. It's so thin. There's no way this hair could pass for female hair as thin as it is now.
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I would guess rogane or one of the other hair restoriers would help.

Rogaine says that it is not supposed to be used on women. Does that mean if I am taking estrogen I could run into problems?

Chances are if I do restart it I will get the flaking again. Is there anything I can do about that?
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