Female 'Eunuch'

[Sunny (imported)]

I hope I can get a little help here, I've been searching the 'extreme body modification' sites and whatnot since I got the gumption to admit to myself I want something like this. I want information for a girl who wants to be a 'eunuch.' I'm not sure that term applies. I've not found any other women who seem to be interested. And a whole host of sites decrying the mutilation of women without their consent, and no information for a woman who is willing.

[A-1 (imported)]

Sunny,

I assume that you are a young lady. Can you explain this compulsion? Is it sopmething that is erotic to you? Are you disgusted with sex? Are you disgusted with your sex? Has a Lover rejected you? Does your body look ugly to you? Do you have a compulsion to be a masochist?

Just why is it that you want this?

Let us explore...

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[Leona Lee (imported)]

Well Honey,the female equivalent to male castration would be to have your ovaries removed.Genetic Males are usually casterated to reduce sex drive.Or,and as I have done,add some estrogen to try to achieve a little calmness and try to have a little of what you already have.But for you to remove your ovaries would put you on a hormone level simular to mine.You would have to replenish or take calcium for your bones.Maybe you was meaning a a clitorectomy. That would be equivalent to penectomy=sexless.Well no enjoyment anyway.What are you trying to achieve Dear?Hugs,Leona

[Sunny (imported)]

Difficult questions. Clitoridectomy, and ovary removal, as well as historectomy. I know a LOT would have to change. I'm not certain if the vaginal column can be wholly removed.

As for the 'why' questions you're asking, those are both myriad, and, to be frank, a lot more private. But seeing as that is one of the reasons I'm here...

It isn't as much that the notion of these changes is sexually gratifying, as it is that it seems a return to...control?

As though I'm coming back to a form that is, more natural, or less so really, but feels more natural.

I'm not disgusted by sex, but I'd rather not need it, or want it, if at all possible.

I'm not disgusted by my body, though I'll admit it is not perfect. But, as I have said, a LOT of work would need to be done to make it perfect.

As for hormones, I'm aware that these changes are...drastic. Especially for women the threat of things such as osteoporosis.

I was hoping I'd find some kindred spirits. To know I'm not alone in my way of thinking. Perhaps eventually find someone who could help make it possible.

[Leona Lee (imported)]

Well Dear I hope we are kindrid spirits.Then your reasons make sense and

I would think if the Medical Surgens can create a vagina,they can surely remove one.That would be a total nullification.Keep in touch,Hugs,Leona

[Sunny (imported)]

Total nullification. Precisely.

The odd part is, I've yet to meet a single other woman who also desires this, or something similar.

Plenty wish they could be rid of their ovaries or uterus, though most often purely out of concern for pregancies, or weariness at menstruation.

Several fantasize about clitoridectomy, though often out of a masochistic urge. Or to control sexual satisfaction, which they feel is...unnatural or unclean.

None yet seem to share my point of view. But perhaps some of the genetic males here, however they view their gender, or lack thereof, will understand.

[awen (imported)]

Yes, I do recall an article on BME someplace of a woman also contemplating what it means to be a female eunuch and wanting to be one. Sorry, I don't recall more. It's in the public area of BME.

Since you have an interest in female nullo, you might have more luck finding like minds if you join the IAM community at BME.

In my opinion, there is another way to make a female besides total removal of all reproductive structures: a set of piercings which completely close the vulva save a small opening for menstral blood and urination. That is, one can take about 24 small gold rings and close it shut. There's an article on EA about this treatment being applied to Roman slaves.

Good luck,

awen

[A-1 (imported)]

Sunny,

What you are daydreaming of is surgically possible.

I do not know of a surgeon who would do it, though. I will not be so presumptuous and condescending to recommend therapy, but before a reputable surgeon would entertain doing this, therapy would be required.

It has been my experience that lot of women are becoming chronicallly infected with Chlamydia, or other Chlamydia-like infection and are not being properly treated for it. The problem being that the female reproductive system, unlike the male reproductive system, is open into the peritoneum. I know that this is probably a lot of medical mumbo-jumbo to you but please bear with me.

In a female, the infection enters into vagina, goes into the uterus and thne into the abdomen through the fallopian tubes. It chronically infects lower regions of the pelvis that results in constant, chronic pain. If left untreated scarring of the fallopian tubes renders one sterile and the area called the cul-de-sac, a fold of peritoneum between the uterus and the rectum, fills with infected fluid and makes life a living hell of constant, chronic, crampy pain. The treatment is I.V. therapy with a strong broad-spectrum anti-biotic such as Flagil and lots of bed rest. For chronic cases, flair-ups are common and as long as they are treated in the manner that I described and as long as the chlamydia or whatever does not develop an immunity to the antibiotic the condition can be put into remission and probably cured, if the woman does not get herself re-infected. Usually, it has been my expereince that re-infections occurs from an chronically infected male, or a promiscuous one, or some combination of the two. Generally, males are spared most symptoms that I described except for a chronic pus-like discharge out of the urethra that comes and goes. Usually, they have no pain and are without significant symptoms. Some of the bastards refuse to see the doctor or to abstain from sexual relations until they are non-contagious. These are the ones that need de-sexed, not the women.

So, as a woman experiences these things, she is likely to want it all cut out out of frustration. I am sure that may not be a good alternative. Untreated, this condition usually results in a lot of misery and finally the need for a hysterectomy, usually vaginal, that results in the vagina being left a blind pouch, sealed off from the internal abdomen. Sometimes part of the cervix remains but if so, it is sealed.

In such a surgical procedure the uterus and vagina are prolapsed externally and the blood supply is ligated and then the vagina sewn shut and anchored back into the proper place in the pelvis. It would be a simple thing at that point to do what you ask, but a surgeon would not do it out of fear of a woman changing her mind and suing later. Also, a husband, or I suppose a lover of long standing, could sue the surgeon for causing the loss of a sexual partner.

Other medical conditions that cause the female misery include prolapse of the uterus that produces much the same symptoms, i.e., chronic pain. The brutal act becoming more and more popular among the kinky that is commonly known as "fisting", in a female, usually results in the tearing of the muscles of the vaginal wall and causes rectoceles and cystoceles. Formerly, these were injuries sustained only during vaginal delivery of a big baby or after several births, and a woman under 30 rarely had them. Now, women in their 20's are showing up with these problems. These conditions are herniations of the rectum and the urinary bladder, respectively, into the vaginal canal. This causes incontinece under stress such as happens from sneezing, jumping rope, or jogging. You leak pee into your pants. Rectoceles, if bad enough, cause the need to digitally manipulate the vaginal wall to properly deficate and to clear the rectum of fecal material. (You have to push your poop out with your finger.)

Now, Let me tell you that all of the conditions that I just described are, usually, surgically correctable. Hysterectomy usually results in early menopause, and sexual need diminishes significantly, even if the ovaries are left.

If what you want is an erotic dream, perhaps it is best left that way. If you are experiencing any of the symptoms or conditions that I have outlined, see a reputable gyneocologist in a teaching medical center. Such a place is where doctors are trained and so will have the best doctors that you can find to put your bottom together properly.

At any rate, if you are having medical problems that are causing you to want your sex cut out, first try getting it fixed so that it is reasonably normal and then try living with it that way after the repair surgery for at least two years before you pursue having anything done that would remove your ability to have sex should you choose to do so.

I will tell you the same thing that I tell everyone else. Once you have it cut out, it will never grow back and it will be gone forever. This is something that is irreversable. I hate to see anybody do this, but for some strange reason, it bothers me more when females want it than when males want it.

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[Sunny (imported)]

I have read a little on the nature of 'chastity' piercings and things of that nature. It seems to me to be a reasonable alternative for someone who is sexually gratified by the idea of nullification. However, for my purposes, it is rather like hiding something you'd rather just not have at all.

A-1. I appreciate the concern you show in your post, and allow me to strip you at once of any misconceptions. My desires do not stem from pain or misfunction, or any combination. I will overlook the suggestion of Chlamydial infection, singular or serial, and the mention of fisting. I do not think that these were mention to be specifically insulting, though perhaps they could be construed as such. Your mention of therapy is important I think, as it is one thing perhaps everyone could benefit from.

And I applaud your forthrightness in admitting that a female nullification bothers you more than a male's. I think perhaps this is nearly universal, and is largely based on the outmoded remnants of chivalry in our society. Also, many knowledgable people, such as yourself, recognize that the scope of female nullification is much wider, and that the process itself is much more dangerous.

Pardon my pontification. I do encounter a bit of condescension from people who hear me discuss this subject. I know that was not anyone's intent.

[A-1 (imported)]

Sunny,

You are right. I never meant to offend. You have to cover all possibilities, though.

Usually, men who desire this are fed up with the need for sex and just want to be free.

Women, however, have a sex drive that is different from a man and do not desire this as often, or if they do they are not verbal about it.

Please be careful as you pursue this. You will probably end up in Asia, though, because this is just not done in America or Europe.

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