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Sex Change Surgery,,,
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Sex Change Surgery,,,
may be viewed here...
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SURGERY - Warning! very, very GRAPHIC!!!! (http://www.consumptionjunction.com/cont ... e=82&fav=0)
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Re: Sex Change Surgery,,,
A-1 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:16 am may be viewed here...
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that's how it is done.
good filming
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Re: Sex Change Surgery,,,
It does not look like SexChange surgery. It looks more like castration and penectomy. Glans is usually used in SRS, not just cut off.
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erikboy (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:50 pm It does not look like SexChange surgery. It looks more like castration and penectomy. Glans is usually used in SRS, not just cut off.
Exactly. The penis has the erectile tissue removed, but the rest of the tissue is used. For me, the glans became the clitoris; the top part of the penile skin became the labia minora; the bottom part became part of the vaginal lining; the scrotum became the labia majora and the remainder of the vaginal wall. And of course, creating the vaginal wall and excavating a cavity takes quite a bit of time.
I had a series of pictures taken of my reassignement surgery, and my procedure was quite different from the procedure shown.
Anyway, you don't see educational videos like this one often. I hope that the patient does well.
Warm hugs,
Kelly
Castration by Spector
SRS by Suporn
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I have not read about this type of surgery recently, however, I thought that the penile head was used to make a cervix.
The procdure attempts to perserve the penile skin, turns it wrong-side out, similar to the way that a glove or a sock turns wrong side out and folds upon itself when you remove it. Technically, is is termed a de-gloving.
To keep the newly formed vaginal vault patent a pessiary is kept in place, inserted during the healing process and after to keep the structure functional. If available, scrotal tissue is used to form the labia minora and labia majora.
All in all, it is a pretty complicated and intricate surgery. It can take from 8 to 12 hours and the surgeons usually work in teams. Usually, the specialties are OB/GYN, Urology, Plastic and reconstructive and usually a general surgeon is on the team, also.
It is said that very good results are obtainable and that when coupled with facial recostruction, larynx sculpting and nips, tucks, breast implants, hair removal and transplant that the results are indistigushable from natural in certain individuals.
The bill can run $50k to 100k, depending on where and how the procedure is done and how much surgery is needed.
It certainly does not go as fast as the video depicts it.
Ya gotta want to change REAL badly to go through this.
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The procdure attempts to perserve the penile skin, turns it wrong-side out, similar to the way that a glove or a sock turns wrong side out and folds upon itself when you remove it. Technically, is is termed a de-gloving.
To keep the newly formed vaginal vault patent a pessiary is kept in place, inserted during the healing process and after to keep the structure functional. If available, scrotal tissue is used to form the labia minora and labia majora.
All in all, it is a pretty complicated and intricate surgery. It can take from 8 to 12 hours and the surgeons usually work in teams. Usually, the specialties are OB/GYN, Urology, Plastic and reconstructive and usually a general surgeon is on the team, also.
It is said that very good results are obtainable and that when coupled with facial recostruction, larynx sculpting and nips, tucks, breast implants, hair removal and transplant that the results are indistigushable from natural in certain individuals.
The bill can run $50k to 100k, depending on where and how the procedure is done and how much surgery is needed.
It certainly does not go as fast as the video depicts it.
Ya gotta want to change REAL badly to go through this.
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Re: Sex Change Surgery,,,
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Hello dear. Good comments. Here is probably more than what you want to know regarding what we go through:
(1) It is rather obsolete to use the glans penis an a pseudo-cervix. Presently, the more common use of the glans is for the clitoris. Not only is the glans homologous to the clitoris (the same tissue differentiates into either the glans or the clitoris, meaning that it is the same thing), but the glans is the main sensate tissue. You do want a sensate clitoris, yes?
(2) The most common type of vaginoplasty is what you describe--turning the penile skin inside out to form the lining. It is called "penile inversion." Often, other skin is grafted on as well. A newer and good technique is the scrotal graft.
(3) At the end of the surgery, "packing" is used to keep the vagina open. This is often a lot of cotton tissue. After several days or a week, it is removed, and then the patient needs to dilate with a stent for quite a lot of time afterwards and then regularly for life. A "stent" is a dildo-shaped tool, and "dilate" means to keep the stent inside of the vagina in order to keep it open. The scrotal skin can be used in part for a graft for the vagina, as well as for the labia majora (it is homologous again). Labia minora can be created by the more homologous penile skin.
(4) Typically, the surgery takes between 90 minutes for some Thai surgeons to six or more hours for the more detailed surgeons. Mine took seven hours, which was rather long. The team consists of the surgeon, and anesthesiologist, and some nurses. The surgeons speacialty is usually plastic surgery and/or sex reassignment surgery.
(5) All of the auxiliary procedures that you mention are good, but not at the same time. I spread mine out over a few years, having the SRS, a few rounds of facial surgery, extensive hair removal, and some vocal cord surgeries. However, few TS women are indistinguishable from natal women. Some things such as the skeleton remain masculine. There are some women who actually are indistinguishable, but they are in the minority.
(6) The SRS can cost as little as, perhaps, $4500. All of the surgeries, etc., can cost up to $50,000 or so, but few need that much work or can afford it.
(7) Correct--SRS takes time to do correctly.
(8) Transitioning to the gender role of your self-identified gender, as well as surgery, is the only known effective treatment for Gender Dysphoria. It seems more of a need than a want.
Warm hugs,
Kelly
A-1 (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2004 7:21 pm I have not read about this type of surgery recently, however, I thought that the penile head was used to make a cervix.
(2) The procdure attempts to perserve the penile skin, turns it wrong-side out, similar to the way that a glove or a sock turns wrong side out and folds upon itself when you remove it. Technically, is is termed a de-gloving.
(3) To keep the newly formed vaginal vault patent a pessiary is kept in place, inserted during the healing process and after to keep the structure functional. If available, scrotal tissue is used to form the labia minora and labia majora.
(4) All in all, it is a pretty complicated and intricate surgery. It can take from 8 to 12 hours and the surgeons usually work in teams. Usually, the specialties are OB/GYN, Urology, Plastic and reconstructive and usually a general surgeon is on the team, also.
(5) It is said that very good results are obtainable and that when coupled with facial recostruction, larynx sculpting and nips, tucks, breast implants, hair removal and transplant that the results are indistigushable from natural in certain individuals.
(6) The bill can run $50k to 100k, depending on where and how the procedure is done and how much surgery is needed.
(7) It certainly does not go as fast as the video depicts it.
(8) Ya gotta want to change REAL badly to go through this.
Hello dear. Good comments. Here is probably more than what you want to know regarding what we go through:
(1) It is rather obsolete to use the glans penis an a pseudo-cervix. Presently, the more common use of the glans is for the clitoris. Not only is the glans homologous to the clitoris (the same tissue differentiates into either the glans or the clitoris, meaning that it is the same thing), but the glans is the main sensate tissue. You do want a sensate clitoris, yes?
(2) The most common type of vaginoplasty is what you describe--turning the penile skin inside out to form the lining. It is called "penile inversion." Often, other skin is grafted on as well. A newer and good technique is the scrotal graft.
(3) At the end of the surgery, "packing" is used to keep the vagina open. This is often a lot of cotton tissue. After several days or a week, it is removed, and then the patient needs to dilate with a stent for quite a lot of time afterwards and then regularly for life. A "stent" is a dildo-shaped tool, and "dilate" means to keep the stent inside of the vagina in order to keep it open. The scrotal skin can be used in part for a graft for the vagina, as well as for the labia majora (it is homologous again). Labia minora can be created by the more homologous penile skin.
(4) Typically, the surgery takes between 90 minutes for some Thai surgeons to six or more hours for the more detailed surgeons. Mine took seven hours, which was rather long. The team consists of the surgeon, and anesthesiologist, and some nurses. The surgeons speacialty is usually plastic surgery and/or sex reassignment surgery.
(5) All of the auxiliary procedures that you mention are good, but not at the same time. I spread mine out over a few years, having the SRS, a few rounds of facial surgery, extensive hair removal, and some vocal cord surgeries. However, few TS women are indistinguishable from natal women. Some things such as the skeleton remain masculine. There are some women who actually are indistinguishable, but they are in the minority.
(6) The SRS can cost as little as, perhaps, $4500. All of the surgeries, etc., can cost up to $50,000 or so, but few need that much work or can afford it.
(7) Correct--SRS takes time to do correctly.
(8) Transitioning to the gender role of your self-identified gender, as well as surgery, is the only known effective treatment for Gender Dysphoria. It seems more of a need than a want.
Warm hugs,
Kelly
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Re: Sex Change Surgery,,,
Kelly2,
Need to change, want to change, they must both be there, I guess.
More, but with voice-over...
Surgery
Looks like Asian doctors...
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Need to change, want to change, they must both be there, I guess.
More, but with voice-over...
Surgery
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Looks like Asian doctors...
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Kelly_2 (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:06 pm However, few TS women are indistinguishable from natal women. Some things such as the skeleton remain masculine. There are some women who actually are indistinguishable, but they are in the minority.
I was under the impression that if HRT is started before puberty, the young M2F will look just like a natal girl (genitals aside).
...Not that it helps older TSs.
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Re: Sex Change Surgery,,,
Hi A-1,
Because the Karmas are kept, I gave you one, already yesterday for this great site you mentioned to us: Consumption Junction.
Thanks A-1, and my best regards to you.
Your comments are always of great interest!
Because the Karmas are kept, I gave you one, already yesterday for this great site you mentioned to us: Consumption Junction.
Thanks A-1, and my best regards to you.
Your comments are always of great interest!
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Re: Sex Change Surgery,,,
Well, thank you, Cutme.
That was mighty civil of you.
I shall try to behave such that your actions are justified.
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That was mighty civil of you.
I shall try to behave such that your actions are justified.