Consequences of Castration

[tr_80504 (imported)]

Thanks for the great thread. I am on a test run with chemical castration with hopes at this time of eventual surgical castration. I had thought about some of the methods of self castration but this defiantly sheds the proper light on what the outcome could possibly be. Don’t get me wrong the forum is great but sometimes it appears that it always goes well and I sometimes find it difficult to see the negatives as there is more post on the positive.

Keep up the great work and I am looking forward to continuing my education so I can make an informed decision.

[twodeadnuts (imported)]

Yeah DocT, let us know how it goes following your visit to your new urologist. Of course, the fate of your testicles is ultimately yours to decide. Like I had concluded for myself, it sounds like losing them would not be such a large loss. I decided I didn't want implants either. I'm a social nudist, and I anguished for a long time on what others would think on seeing me with no testicles. In the end, someone convinced me that it shouldn't matter.

That conclusion turned out to be absolutely correct. Hardly anyone notices. I think a few people do, or they strongly suspect that I don't have balls, but no one says anything. It's like asking an amputee what happened to his limb(s). People seldom ask, and they don't think any less of you because you may be ballless. A couple of casual sex partners have asked. A few guys, including a few casual sex partners, have thought it was neat and have complemented me on being ballless. My partner likes my ballless crotch. I just returned from a 5-day Radical Faerie gathering where I was nude much of the time amongst 165 other men. Not a peep about balllessness from anyone.

I've had 2 rings inserted in my scrotum. Almost everyone has said they look neat. I think the piercings stop many from also observing that my scrotum is but a piece of skin.

Anyway, best of luck.

There are mostly comments from:

1. Those of us who want to be rid of our balls and

a) do nothing about it or and deal with continual frustration from that decision or

b) do take action and deal with ongoing mental and physical consequences (positive, mixed, or negative).

vs

There don't seem to be many/any comments from group 2:

Those who never wanted to be rid of their balls but due to disease or accident loose them and the post loss mental and physical anguish they must endure.

It would be enlightening to hear comments also from group 2, if possible. Perhaps monitor an internet cancer survivor group, men who lost their testicles to cancer??. (But make no comments........but transfer some of that info to this group)

[Aussieball (imported)]

I read the thread on being ballless and the apparent lack of questions being raised. My inquiry is more directed to other consequences of being ballless. In my case, my PSA prostate reading has jumped dramatically since the last reading 6 months ago. I have an appointment with the Urologist on the 26th August. Now if it is cancer, the usual procedure is that anyone who can afford the operation will have the prostate removed, otherwise, like me, maybe female hormones given to combat it. Now does that work? Also what is the consequences of such treatment? And the long term effects? Dp the balls shrivel...I only have one anyway since puberty. Does the penis shrivel? Does the personality change?

Editor's Note: Please search the forums for information on this, or DO feel free to start a new thread. As this forum is moderated, a conversation on it here would not be efficient. -P.

[HappyEunuch (imported)]

There are mostly comments from:

1. Those of us who want to be rid of our balls and

a) do nothing about it or and deal with continual frustration from that decision or

b) do take action and deal with ongoing mental and physical consequences (positive, mixed, or negative).

vs

There don't seem to be many/any comments from group 2:

Those who never wanted to be rid of their balls but due to disease or accident loose them and the post loss mental and physical anguish they must endure.

It would be enlightening to hear comments also from group 2, if possible. Perhaps monitor an internet cancer survivor group, men who lost their testicles to cancer??. (But make no comments........but transfer some of that info to this group)

I lost my testicles due to testicular trauma and tumors. The consequences were mostly mental and it has been 2 years since i lost them and I have been going through them since. Not because of loss of testosterone but because i have been living my life the way I was raised and taught by society and not just thinking for myself and expressing how i feel and think and etc. well a lot changes after you lose your nuts. I have done extensive research and it makes it hard to read a lot of posts here because i know that most are full of crap from wanna be's and etc. if there were more people sharing real effects it would be easier for the people who may be facing this in their future whether near or far. Let me tell you the consequences:

After castration:

Hot flashes (only when I am not on HRT but most recently even on testosterone)

some experience erectile dysfunction. (I got erections for a while with testosterone replacement but recently i do not get them either or when i do they are not hard enough to penetrate. I also have less sensation/feeling in my penis)

Sexual desire - There is less desire for me to be sexually active in the penetrating form but i still enjoy and crave intimacy (cuddling, kissing, oral (giving), and etc) just dont care to penetrate

Supposedly i wont lose my hair

Cognitive thought process changes

and much more some positive some negative but those above are the main thing

the things that dont happen... you don't turn into a girl although you can get man titties

your voice does not change

it does not make you gay or straight or any particular sex choice.

and lots of other things.

thats just what i know and i wasn't elaborate. I feel like I am wasting my time explaining it as it is not erotic or something of that sort so it won't be read as much.

[jcat (imported)]

The FIRST link is to Andrew’s invaluable health notes. I will try to update this link regularly so that it is to the latest version: The Health Effects of Castration (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4608)

Hi Jesus, The Link is broken!!

[JesusA (imported)]

Hi Jesus, The Link is broken!!

Andrew's final revision to his thread was on 14 January 2004. All of the information in it has now been added to the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) that can be accessed from a link on the top left-hand side of this page.

Andrew became tired of answering the same questions time after time from newcomers to the Archive and moved on with his life. He's now retired and doing well while caring for rescue dogs and cats in the Los Angeles area.

I will paste a copy of his final update below, together with one addition by Christina and Andrew's reply to her post.

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Comments on castration efects? 14 January

Every Eunuch will have different effects from his castration. YMWV = Your Mileage Will Vary. Those who do not choose to take Testosterone Replacement Therapy can expect the following.

Infertility, in all cases. If this could be an issue, bank some sperm beforehand.

Some (but by no means all) eunuchs develop “The Eunuch Calm”, a feeling of tranquil contentment, with reduced or eliminated thoughts of sex, aggression, and ambition. This has happened to me, but, again, YMWV.

Reduced libido, erections, and nocturnal emissions, sometimes to the point of total impotence and asexuality.

Weight gain, including subcutaneous body fat. (This thin layer of fat causes the skin to become softer and smoother.) You will need a lifetime diet and exercise program to avoid this problem.

Loss or thinning of body hair, but male pattern baldness slows down or stops. Reduced body odor. The pitch of your voice will not change.

Loss of lean muscle mass (hence muscle weakness, increased fatigue, and loss of stamina). Your shoulders will become narrower and you will lose muscle definition in your upper torso without a VIGOROUS exercise program.

Little to mild breast development (gynecomastia), and mild fat redistribution around the hips and thighs.

The penis may shrink.

Hot flushes and night sweats. Very much a YMWV happening. Some eunuchs take low levels of estrogen to counteract this. Consult your Physician.

POSSIBLE moodiness and tearfulness. Do not be surprised if you start crying far more frequently over what may seem to be trivial matters.

There MIGHT be cognitive losses, mostly in spatial orientation and short term memory.

Osteoporosis should be your #2 concern. Your chances of getting this disease are greater if you were castrated before the age of 40. Castration before age 25 MIGHT involve additional problems if your body has not yet finished its post-puberty growth. You should take at least 1,500 MG of calcium and 400 IU of Vitamin D daily. Shortly before or after castration, you should have a bone density scan, and after that a scan every two years. A proper diet and exercise program will help in the battle against osteoporosis.

DEPRESSION! This MUST be your #1 concern. Post-surgical depression is very likely as your testosterone levels crash. Chronic depression IS a major concern, and MAY require professional therapy (including antidepressants) before, during, and after the surgery. You need to consider the issue of depression BEFORE castration. If it is an issue before hand, it will almost certainly become a much larger one afterward. Castration before age 25 MIGHT increase your risk. Some eunuchs may have to take various amounts of testosterone to alleviate depression and other problems.

A Final Thought: most Physicians have no experience in caring for the hypogonadal male. Consider finding a Physician who has a thorough working knowledge on the problems and treatments of menopausal and post-menopausal women. Whilst the biology of a Eunuch and a post-menopausal woman are not identical, there is some significant overlap.

This list has been put together with the help of members of The Eunuch Archives.

01-15-2004, 09:24 AM

Christina (http://forums.eunuch.org/member.php?8252-Christina)

Welcome back Andrew,

A few things I could think of that may be of interest. Head hair (excluding facial hair) may grow at a faster rate. Also, fingernails may grow faster, but may tend to be brittle (possible effect of calcium changes). I'm sure you've noticed when us girls break a nail.

01-15-2004, 09:49 AM

Andrew

Fingernail?

I have not noticed any increase in the rate that my head hair grows, but my facial hair comes in at about 1/5 of its former rate. And, yes, my fingernails seem to be quite brittle. Not sure if this is a result of the castration or just getting older.

[Kangan2008 (imported)]

My results after nearly 7 years of being castrated with no HRT.

1. Libido is zero. (Why I wanted to be castrated in the first place.)

2. Penis is back to the size it was when I was 13 (pre-puberty).

3. Erections still possible, but do not last long.

4. Body hair is gone. Pubic hair is nearly gone.

5. Beard still grows but very slowly.

6. Some weight gain. (I have compensated with dietary changes to keep it under control.)

7. Cry very easily. (emotional sensitivity increase?)

8. Scrotum nearly flat.

9. Head hair went from dark brown to blonde. (Surprise!)

10. Fingernails brittle despite eating lots of Jello.

11. Skin is very thin and fragile. Bruise easily.

Some of this may be the result of aging. Castrated at 66. Now 73.

[Frida G Cavic (imported)]

Recently the Eunuch Archive has been developing in very valuable ways. When I first discovered this group, the fantasy aspects seemed to make up nearly all of it. However, reality has begun to set in with the development of serious discussion on the realities of castration, both positive and negative. .

Andrew’s health guidelines are a critical part of this trend, but there have been a number of other threads discussing the pros and cons of various issues. Certainly there are some here for whom castration is beneficial. There are others for whom it could be disastrous – depression, suicide attempts, etc. There are yet others who would fall between these points.

I have decided to begin this thread purely as a set of links to existing (and future) threads on the rest of the Archive that provide solid information to help individuals make their own decisions. I may also include an occasional link to valuable information found outside the bounds of the Eunuch Archive.

All Archive members are invited to suggest links that they think should be here.

The FIRST link is to Andrew’s invaluable health notes. I will try to update this link regularly so that it is to the latest version: The Health Effects of Castration (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4608)

Since so much of the fiction on the Story Board is fantasies extolling the virtues of castration, I think that there needs to be a link to two very powerful stories giving the opposite view. Both are linked from an existing thread that discusses them, as well as providing a link to Dr. Richard Wassersug’s valuable article in Out Magazine. The thread is named after one of the pieces of fiction: A Warning to Others (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4577).

The thread Castration + or – (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4515) includes far more negatives than positives, but it raises real issues that need to be read and thought about by anyone here who is considering castration.

Please suggest any additional threads on the Eunuch Archive and any locations outside the Archive that you think would be useful to provide a balanced view.

I can´t acces to any of the links provided

[Frida G Cavic (imported)]

I experienced aaallll of what you have described on chemcast during one year on It, except depression and hot-flushes that rarely happens thanks to estradiol, I think I´m ready to surgery, but the I have a familiar backrounds of diabetes from my fater and I´m m researching If I became an eunuch that would increase my chances of develop It.

[salvador (imported)]

Muchas gracias Jesus por toda esta interesante información sobre las consecuencias de la castración.

Es muy bueno que todo miembro que desee ser castrado, antes pueda leer este buen informe, para poder opinar si será beneficioso en su situación actual.

Es una opinión íntima de cada persona, y hay que estar bien informado y seguro de sí mismo para hacer la operación en un centro Hospitalario, y saber que una vez hecho será para toda la vida.

Muy interesante toda vuestra información, y experiencias de los miembros!

Muchas gracias.