Question about long term uses of Androcur

[Paolo]

Sag111 is right.

The problem with herbs is the dosage and cost. You have to spend $$$ on a lot of it, and then take pills and pills and pills...all you do is drink water and take pills. It's very annoying. Then you have to risk the allergy factor too. I mean, we don't just go out and pull up a weed and munch on it and see if it tastes good. Itchy rashes and swollen throats and eyes are no fun.

I did do a run at the herbal thing once, some years ago when it was getting popular. However, for one month of effects that I could notice, I spent like $150 and was taking something like 2 dozen capsules a day? It wasn't worth it.

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[Sac_mec (imported)]

Sag111 is right.

The problem with herbs is the dosage and cost. You have to spend $$$ on a lot of it, and then take pills and pills and pills...all you do is drink water and take pills. It's very annoying. Then you have to risk the allergy factor too. I mean, we don't just go out and pull up a weed and munch on it and see if it tastes good. Itchy rashes and swollen throats and eyes are no fun.

I did do a run at the herbal thing once, some years ago when it was getting popular. However, for one month of effects that I could notice, I spent like $150 and was taking something like 2 dozen capsules a day? It wasn't worth it.

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Paolo I slightly disagree, I think that for a serious person taking their first tentative and probably private step towards some kind of introduction that there are some herbs in tablet form, which could be taken as directed (of course) which although not aimed at men are effective in reducing even stopping erections and these herbs can be bought inexpensively over the counter inthe UK in a health food store which has a focus on vegetarians and

vegans. I guess the same is true in other countries.

The herbs aren't expensive at all here and sometimes are possibly marked down even cheaper during promotions. For around £15 you could buy a fairly large bottle of Dong Quai and the price of Wild Yam is around the same. ($1 = 0.75p + or -).

These notes are for advice for shy guys who are considering "doing something"

as a first option. Don't be put off by herbs but also be aware that anything you

consume will have consequences; my comments aren't intended as an advocacy

merely as comment. Truthfully I hope this thread returns to its opening theme about the longer term effects of androcur usage and I hope that remains the major focus - in my previous posting which is written with enthusiasm - for the sake of truthfulness and balance I must point out that muscle loss has been one

unwanted side effect and for various reasons I am precluded from exercise regimes. Also I want to add that my comments are written for the support and

information of existing users (hopefully with medical support) again personal comments here are not intended as any endorsement or encouragement to

anyone not already on their journey!

[luvpain (imported)]

Condolances. But WHY are you on androcur in the first place? If it was prescribed, did not your Physician warn you of long term effects?

However, even if your testicles have been permanently damaged, HRT might be of help.

Andrew,

Just a reminder that Androcur is still not FDA approved in the USA, so people like me and others have to order online from overseas pharmacies. Most people do not want to talk to their Physician about castration or chemical castration since it is a sensitive subject and many of us have had to deal with shrinks etc because of our wish.

With my packet there wasn't anything stating long term effects, but I have read about some of the long term effects here.

I know Rainshine wanted to lower his Testosterone levels and had heard about Androcur. Androcur seems to be the best method to see if you can handle the lack of testosterone, and I do recommend that people try that for a few months before they actually commit to castration.

Well there was a mix-up and he figured it was reversible. Luckily I did see he was unsure about proceeding with actual castration, and able to inform him about long term effect.

I have definitely made a little warning about long term risks on my Androcur Experience (http://www.luvpain99.com/Androcur.html) so that others that are considering chemical castration and castration will know of the risks.

[Paolo]

Sac_Mec,

I should say that unless you can find real herbs in a specialty store, you end up spending $$$ and taking piles of pills. I am sure there are places out there to get stronger, more effective herbals. There just aren't any near me.

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[Christina (imported)]

Hello All:

I do not know if anyone will see or respond to this.

I have been reading the posts in here, for several months and share some similar feelings.

Can anyone help me with some over the counter herb suggestions for a reduction my "male cravings"

Thanks.

kelly_louis

I would have to agree with Paolo on the subject of herbs. Many of the store bought ones do not offer a consistant concentration of the product, hence the need to take many pills. Also there is the chance of an allergic reaction.

But there may be an alternative to the OTC herbs found at your local store. I would consider only one other choice from the Phoenix Project http://www.myevanesce.com/. Many claim to have had moderate success with these herbs. I can not make any claims to this, but from what I understand and have read, the concentration of herbs are much higher in these products than from any bought from the local health store. Keep in mind that your body may be insensitive to the herbal products (and real hormones for that matter also).

BTW, these herbs were originally sold as a means for transgendered persons to obtain feminization without seeking medical prescriptions. But, without using all of the products listed, one should be able to achive some form of herbal castration or, at the very least, a reduction in testosterone.

[happousai (imported)]

I take 6 capsules of Evanesce daily myself (http://www.myevanesce.com/ the site that Christina mentioned above). It costs $32 per month at that dosage (+ shipping, which is free on orders of $99 or more).

Dianna, who runs the site, says that Evanesce contains the most powerful testosterone blockers that are available without a prescription.

It does take a few weeks of constantly taking it in order for it to start working, though. Dianna explains that the body's hormones have "inertia", and stopping testosterone production with herbal hormones can be like attempting to bring a large truck to a halt; it takes time.

[Riverwind (imported)]

On the subject of Androcur, I took this drug for a year before being castrated. Yes it is not approved in the USA so I did get mine from overseas. Yes I did tell my doctor what drug I was taking and gave him the fact sheet provided by the maker. I have totally read the sheet and it does state that you should be able to return to normal after stopping the drug - it takes about 3 months. Long term use is 2 to 3 years which can cause permant loss as well as liver dammage.

So, for those of you taking Androcur, Tell your doctor, get a liver test, have your Testosterone levels checked.

Riverwind

[robert902 (imported)]

I am just about at my first anniversary with Androcur and the most noticeable

long term changes have been breast growth to about Size A cup, curvy and pointy (yum, actually) penile shrinkage to zero, glans head sitting on balls

(looks cute) it is also very sleepy, happily and dry for 10 months.

Balls feel very empty, feel dead, I'd say they feel harder but the shrinkage is nothing like the rapid rate of the penis, boy did that go!

Can you tell me more, please, about the penile shrinkage? How large was it at first and how large is it now? How fast did it shrink? What was the initial circumference and what is it now?

And, can you still get hard and squirt?

Please describe in more detail how much Androcur you took, where you got it, and what the effect on your genitals was.

I'd like to see mine atrophy to pre-pubescent size. Is that possible?

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