Herbal Estrogens

[SteveA (imported)]

Hi,

I used herbal estrogens from the Phoenix Project for over a year. My goal was to get rid of my raging libido. Well it worked My sexual urges are almost non existant It feels like the puny little testes are still squeezing out a little testosterone. But I am impotent. I just can't get it up.

My breasts, butt and gut have all expanded. I have been taking Estroven for about three months to keep my girlish figure LOL

It is fun playing with my girl parts. But the bottom line fo me is that there is no substitute for the real thing. I am still a wannabe to get them off.

Anybody have similar experiences with herbs?

[SaraHug (imported)]

I have thought of taking the "all natural" route Basicall all i have available to me is GNC Nutrition centers. I have read several books at the library on Phyto-estones and androgen blockers. I have been able to find Black Cohash, Saw palmetto, Red clover, Milk thisle, soy isoflavones, and maybe one other that i can't remenber right now that can be used to promte estrogen and suppress testosterone. They come in three types:Standerdized(basically Plant powder),concentrated(seaped chemicals from the plant),and some other that is not carried everywhere that i think was something like the distilled essence of what they thought was the benificial part of the plant. of course they come in three different prices too I tried the concentrated forms of Black cohash(estrogen) and saw palmetto(anti-testosterone) for about 4-6 months. the bottle recominds 1-2/day for nitritional supplement. i started at 3 each but soon became expensive so i settled on 2 each. one in the morning and one about an hour before betime. It helped a little with my mood and perhaps brought my sex drive down A single peg, but nothing near what I Wanted for the $40/month i was spending so when $$ got tight i left off and have not be back. Can you tell me a little more about your experiance and the products/prices you have used? I was scared to take a commercial product designed for menopause relief, Worries about my liver and all.... i still smoke on occasion 3-4 fags a day (ive always wanted to say that )

[Mac (imported)]

What herbal estrogens are most effective for blocking male sexual urges and providing noticable feminizing effects? How effective are they and what quanties must be taken to produce the effects in a short time? Where is the best place to buy these products?

Also, are there any foods which contain high levels of natural estrogens which can be effective in providing these results?

[SteveA (imported)]

Mac,

I the herbs I use are from the Phoenix Project in Aurora, CO. They have a website which can be reached at myevanesce.com They have several pill formulations. One called Evanesce is used to supress testosterone. There are 9 different herbs listed in the ingredients. I take a daily dose of 6 of these. Then there is Feminol. It contains slightly different herbs. The Feminol is supposed to feminize the body. I am taking 4 of these (just for "fun" ). The third pill I take is called Pregnenolone. It helps to activate hormone production. This would also stimulate testosterone production. So if your balls are still there and active, you would not want to take this one.I only started taking it in the last few months. I also take Evening Primrose Oil. This is to help "soften the skin". I am not sure about this one but it was cheep.

I have been on these pills for about a year and have noticed a marked lowering of my sexual libido (within a week). My breasts and butt started growing slowly. After a year I have 42-B- boobs and size 8 panties butt. That's BIG. Another effect of the herbs is that they have made me impotent. :-\ My balls have shrunk to half their original size and my penis is only about 2 inches. My last order cost me about $90.00

the pills can be ordered from the website. I tried Evanesce which u can get from Costco. They are noticably less potent than the Phoenix Project herbs.

I do not know much about dietary estrogens.

Enjoy,

Steve

What herbal estrogens are most effective for blocking male sexual urges and providing noticable feminizing effects? How effective are they and what quanties must be taken to produce the effects in a short time? Where is the best place to buy these products?

Also, are there any foods which contain high levels of natural estrogens which can be effective in providing these results?