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boingboing (imported)
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There is no academic dispute to speak of about "rapid onset gender dysphoria". That's not a medical term; it's a non-existent phenomenon made up by transphobes to push their bizarre agenda. It plays on the fact that parents often don't see "signs" their kid is trans until some time after the kid figures out that that's what they are and comes out.
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pinkpeopleeater (imported)
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Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is a made up transphobic concept. It has no backing in the medical community.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ia-claims/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ia-claims/
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Re: May 2024 New Stories
pinkpeopleeater (imported) wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 9:23 am Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is a made up transphobic concept. It has no backing in the medical community.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ia-claims/
boingboing (imported) wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 12:17 am There is no academic dispute to speak of about "rapid onset gender dysphoria". That's not a medical term; it's a non-existent phenomenon made up by transphobes to push their bizarre agenda. It plays on the fact that parents often don't see "signs" their kid is trans until some time after the kid figures out that that's what they are and comes out.
You two are really gonna argue with Jesus over this one, eh?
While your opinions have a place in the wider discussion, even if you have both marked your profiles as being here for fantasy reasons, and the thoughts on the term should be taken into account (groups should be able to self-identify, after all), being grouchy at the one recognized academic among us, who was instrumental in getting legitimate and legal paths for people in the community to be able to be who they are, is likely a wasted opportunity for you.
Instead, I would pose the following task for the two of you...
Instead of bitching, how about providing a correction and preferred term? That the term you're concerned about is derogatory to the group in question is a valid observation, however, helping educate people regarding the proper term for something which DOES exist would be MORE helpful.
Just my $.02 worth.
Re: May 2024 New Stories
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pinkpeopleeater (imported)
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No one said anything about self identification being wrong.
But if someone is pushing a transphobic narrative, they are pushing a transphobic narrative.
Gender dysphoria is real.
Rapid onset gender dysphoria is a transphobic concept to push the idea that transgender identity is not real. The idea of "rapid onset gender dysphoria" is not a medical concept no matter what name gets attached to it.
It's just like the accusation of "recruiting" once leveled by homophobes but now simply being repurposed by transphobes.
But if someone is pushing a transphobic narrative, they are pushing a transphobic narrative.
Gender dysphoria is real.
Rapid onset gender dysphoria is a transphobic concept to push the idea that transgender identity is not real. The idea of "rapid onset gender dysphoria" is not a medical concept no matter what name gets attached to it.
It's just like the accusation of "recruiting" once leveled by homophobes but now simply being repurposed by transphobes.
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Many years ago, I had a niece (now a nephew!) that showed the behavior in question, where she very suddenly came out as trans, without prior hints / signs... It was long enough ago that she would have fit as an early instance of 'Rapid Onset' (for lack of a better term)
She was not someone I knew real well, in large part because of big differences in where we live, resulting in the classic 'only see at funerals and weddings' pattern...
According to my sister (her grandmother) it was a total blindside to the family when she came out. No telling what was going on in her head, but there was no reason to have expected her to be hiding any exploration of her identity, as the family background would seem quite likely to be accepting... (And while there were a lot of expressions of surprise and 'are you sure?' I don't know of any unwillingness to be OK with it) My sister is gay, her grandfather on the other side was a mental health worker, with a specialty in working w/ LGBT+ patients, her parents had a non-standard relationship, etc...
So the 'fear of parental response' mentioned as a possible explanation for the 'Rapid Onset' in the article mentioned seems unlikely and prior to coming out she had presented as a 'girlish girl' according to my sister...
Last I heard from the family grapevine, he is doing hormones and has had at least some gender affirming surgery... More importantly he is reportedly doing well.
Only one data point, but it does seem to confirm that the phenomenon exists... I'd also point out that the article cited challenged the 'social contamination' theory and argued against the idea being used as an excuse to deny care to kids, but it did NOT argue that 'Rapid Onset Gender Disphoria' wasn't a real thing...
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She was not someone I knew real well, in large part because of big differences in where we live, resulting in the classic 'only see at funerals and weddings' pattern...
According to my sister (her grandmother) it was a total blindside to the family when she came out. No telling what was going on in her head, but there was no reason to have expected her to be hiding any exploration of her identity, as the family background would seem quite likely to be accepting... (And while there were a lot of expressions of surprise and 'are you sure?' I don't know of any unwillingness to be OK with it) My sister is gay, her grandfather on the other side was a mental health worker, with a specialty in working w/ LGBT+ patients, her parents had a non-standard relationship, etc...
So the 'fear of parental response' mentioned as a possible explanation for the 'Rapid Onset' in the article mentioned seems unlikely and prior to coming out she had presented as a 'girlish girl' according to my sister...
Last I heard from the family grapevine, he is doing hormones and has had at least some gender affirming surgery... More importantly he is reportedly doing well.
Only one data point, but it does seem to confirm that the phenomenon exists... I'd also point out that the article cited challenged the 'social contamination' theory and argued against the idea being used as an excuse to deny care to kids, but it did NOT argue that 'Rapid Onset Gender Disphoria' wasn't a real thing...
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pinkpeopleeater (imported) wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 6:09 pm No one said anything about self identification being wrong.
But if someone is pushing a transphobic narrative, they are pushing a transphobic narrative.
Gender dysphoria is real.
Rapid onset gender dysphoria is a transphobic concept to push the idea that transgender identity is not real. The idea of "rapid onset gender dysphoria" is not a medical concept no matter what name gets attached to it.
It's just like the accusation of "recruiting" once leveled by homophobes but now simply being repurposed by transphobes.
I weep for the future. You failed to comprehend what I said above. Eesh! Get off your high horse and go back and re-read what I said.
Short version, I stated you have a valid observation, but instead of being a jerk, you should offer correct terms in an effort to educate. Nobody said gender dysphoria isn't real, you're the only one injecting that here.
Any further response to this thread by you which isn't an effort to educate or provide actual insight will result in your taking a short break from the site to cool off. You can either educate or remain militant - your choice.
If you choose the first, I'm done. If you choose the last, you're done.
Please choose wisely.
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