Hi again!

[Castor (imported)]

I was already registered here and thought that castration wasn't the real thing for me and deregistered some time ago. Now I have decided to get castrated and have therefore registered here again. The castration has already been authorised (voluntary castration is normally illegal in Germany), so nothing stands in the way of the procedure. I am currently looking for a suitable date for the operation with the surgeon, which will be either at the end of May or the beginning of June.

-Castor

[WheelyFixed]

Welcome back, and congratulations on being able to arrange to get your surgery!!! I hope all goes well with the scheduling and actual surgery - keep us posted on how you are doing with everything.

I also have noticed that we have recently seen a fair number of posts from folks in Germany that have been seeking surgery, if you care to share any tips and suggestions about how you were able to get your approval, it might be helpful to others in your country....

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[Castor (imported)]

I'm happy to do that: Voluntary castration in Germany has a reputation for being difficult. That's not true at all if you know a bit about it. There are basically two options: One way is via the so-called castration law, the other is via a psychological assessment that certifies dysphoria.

The castration law allows the voluntary castration of men who have an “abnormal” sex drive - as in my case. Everyone thinks of sex offenders, but that's only one aspect the law covers. The other aspect the law covers is that non-criminal men who suffer from their high libido can voluntarily get castrated on request. In my case, this was confirmed relatively easily with a medical certificate. With this report, you can in principle go to any urology clinic you trust and arrange a castration with a surgeon.

The other option is to provide credible evidence of dysphoria. In this case, you go to a psychologist and have this certified. In my experience, this route is more difficult, firstly because not all psychologists can be convinced and secondly because not all clinics will accept that castration is “medically indicated” by such a psychological report.

-Castor

[WheelyFixed]

Interesting, and I agree it sounds less hard than I'd heard from other posters... The 'dysphoria' route sounds pretty much like the process in SOC v8, and I suspect may be the approach that the posters who are saying it's difficult may be trying to use. Having done the SOC process in the US, I can say that it works here and is tedious and lengthy, but not all that hard. However other areas are reportedly different.

The castration law approach is one I hadn't heard of, but unless there are issues that you didn't mention it sounds like an easier and more accessible route in some ways... After all, how does anyone other than you determine what your 'sex-drive' or libido is, or define what is 'abnormal'? It would seem to me that it wouldn't be that hard to tell the doctor that you are suffering from whatever you have, or that you are bothered by feeling horny all the time, and how could they show otherwise?

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[Castor (imported)]

Exactly, dysphoria is pretty much in line with the current SOC v8. As for the castration law, I don't think anyone is able to refute what you put on the record to the committee itself about your sex drive. A psychologist is involved here to assess the credibility of the testimony. You should first think carefully about whether the case is really like this. The committee is concerned with weighing up whether castration would be worse or suffering from a high sex drive. But I forgot to mention that the committee's authorization for voluntary castration is limited to 6 months. That sounds sufficient at first. However, anyone who has written to several clinics and spoken to surgeons about the type of procedure (local anesthesia, spinal anesthesia, scrotum removal or not, TRT, etc.) knows that 6 months can be pretty short. You have to expect that some clinics will not respond at all. It is therefore advisable to visit the clinics first and then submit the application.

-Castor

[Neutrum260725]

Unlike me, Castor read the castration law correctly and drew the right conclusions from it. After reading the law again, I came to the same conclusion and will probably go down that path. However, I don't know whether that also applies to "nullification".

Im Gegensatz zu mir hat Castor das Kastrationsgesetz richtig gelesen und auch die richtigen Schlüsse daraus gezogen. Nachdem ich das Gesetz noch einmal genau durchgelesen hatte, kam ich zu dem gleichen Schluss und werde wohl diesen Weg gehen. Allerdings weiß ich nicht ob das auch für „Nullification“ gilt.