Being lonely

[Scottish e (imported)]

For over half my life I have been interested in eunuch life. Every thing from fantasy, castration play and having a desire to become a eunuch. In all that time I have never told anyone how would understand in person about my interest. I know we are mostly on the edge of society. I feel if I trust the wrong people it could totally have a negative impact on my live. If I had a other interest where I required support eg transgender there is support available. I live in the uk and have the NHS which is a very good organisation but from what I have read is Unhappy to assist. Which means some look for other options. I think the lack of help is dangerous. I often think what is the reason for this situation. This is my thinking on this . 99%of men wouldn't even if there lives depend upon it would never volunteer to be castrated and could never imagine it in a million years

doing so. This I feel is the reason why there is little to no support

[WheelyFixed]

Seeking castration IS transgender!!! It falls under that definition because it involves major changes to your "factory equipment"... A transgender center can be the best option for getting in person help and support... (Though from what I've seen of discussions about the situation in the UK, you might want to go to one that is not associated w/ your NHS, at least initially)

As pointed out by many here WPATH, the professional organization for TG health care has Standards of Care (The SOC v8) with a chapter specifically on the care of patients wanting to do an M->E transition.... They used to be just for folks that wanted to do a binary switch between M and F, but now realize that some of us fall in the 'mushy middle' and want to be something in between.... While eunuchs have been a part of history for about as long as we have had history, the idea of voluntarily seeking to become one is a new idea in the Western world. Essentially I think we are sort of where being gay was 50+ years ago.

While I totally understand the reluctance to be public about it (being one of those that is decidedly not out) I think there is a sort of 'chicken / egg' situation where it won't become acceptable until there are enough of us publicly running around for folks to see that we aren't really all that 'strange' and aren't a threat to their children / pets / religion / etc.... But a lot of us won't be public for fear of a lack of acceptance... I wish I knew of a way around this....

WheelyFixed

[magusuk89 (imported)]

I am in the UK, and totally out to the world -- including going to Parliament to have a forthright conversation with the Lib Dem Lords Whip over it, and volunteering for a TV documentary.

The situation is that the UK does not accept the WPATH SoC. There is a huge anti-trans pogrom going on here, whipped up by a significant body of the news media with a view to weaponizing the topic with right-wing objectives connected to the current administration.

I had surgery booked privately in Harley Street, but the day before, the NHS intervened and the private clinic was forced to refund me. I am now going to Mexico.

My approach to it is to question whether it is meaningful to view destesticulation as a trans-only issue, when the GP letter for surgery in my case is for torsions, pathology and pain, but surgery has been denied on fertility preservation grounds by fanatics in high places. I think there are some that want it to be a trans-only issue, as that feeds into a neat culture war narrative that thrives on majority-verses-marginalised-group dynamics... but there is a wider question around "who owns my body? Who gets to say if I have children?" that is very much in play.

For this reason I tend to lead with the topic of my castration being one of body autonomy first, and more defensively one of patient choice in treatment options. The patient in the UK is not permitted representation at MDT meetings, which says everything about the fascism of this place.

By campaigning on the liberty and body autonomy ticket, I have alliances with, among others, endometriosis sufferers, tattoo enthusiasts, piercing enthusiasts, cosmetic surgeons, and people campaigning for reproductive autonomy such as access to condoms.

It is from this position that all of these people come in to defend trans folk as the front-line victims in a struggle over all our rights to liberty and body autonomy.

It is then within that fight that wearing a trans badge feels like solidarity rather than a question of whether I or other eunuchs fit the paradigm cisgender people use to 'other' binary trans people.

[Castor (imported)]

For over half my life I have been interested in eunuch life. Every thing from fantasy, castration play and having a desire to become a eunuch. In all that time I have never told anyone how would understand in person about my interest. I know we are mostly on the edge of society. I feel if I trust the wrong people it could totally have a negative impact on my live. If I had a other interest where I required support eg transgender there is support available. I live in the uk and have the NHS which is a very good organisation but from what I have read is Unhappy to assist. Which means some look for other options. I think the lack of help is dangerous. I often think what is the reason for this situation. This is my thinking on this . 99%of men wouldn't even if there lives depend upon it would never volunteer to be castrated and could never imagine it in a million years

doing so. This I feel is the reason why there is little to no support

I can understand that very well. It's hard to find someone who doesn't immediately declare you crazy because you're seriously interested in getting castrated. For me, Dr. Wassersug's essays were a great help a long time ago in understanding why I wanted my castration (e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9515315940). The best way to find someone in your area with whom you can talk in person without prejudice is perhaps in this forum. I think it's very important to talk to someone in person before you take the final step.

[Scottish e (imported)]

In a perfect world it would be easy to find someone how I could have face to face time. Someone who I could call a friend. Someone how shares my interest and goals. I think fear keeps getting in the way. We here for better or worse at the end of the day face a lot of emotional issues and no one else is helping this is like hitting your head on a brick wall

[magusuk89 (imported)]

In a perfect world it would be easy to find someone how I could have face to face time. Someone who I could call a friend. Someone how shares my interest and goals. I think fear keeps getting in the way. We here for better or worse at the end of the day face a lot of emotional issues and no one else is helping this is like hitting your head on a brick wall

If you are ever in London in the New Year, I'd be very happy to have some pints with you and chat about it. A good friend who went to Mexico for nullo surgery did the same for me, and helped me get over my apprehensiveness about the travel and logistics part of that. Community is important.

The first round is on me! :]

[Scottish e (imported)]

I am retiring early next year. When time is my own that is a date. I will keep in touch. If you ever think about coming up to Glasgow the first pint will be on me

[TgEunuch (imported)]

In a perfect world it would be easy to find someone how I could have face to face time. Someone who I could call a friend. Someone how shares my interest and goals. I think fear keeps getting in the way. We here for better or worse at the end of the day face a lot of emotional issues and no one else is helping this is like hitting your head on a brick wall

Hi Scottish,

Yes it would be a perfect world if we could find someone to share our desire face to face. When I lived in New York City, I was was able to meet with a real eunuch once for brunch, which was nice, but he was in a relationship. To be honest, because of the internet, it is getting better than it was 50 years ago. As a 13 year old, I thought that I was the only boy who wanted his boy parts gone.

[Ally35x1979 (imported)]

Hi I live in the uk and I was castrated in the uk by a uk doctor in a uk hospital. I did put my health at risk by doing it but it worked for me. I live in the middle of the uk and am quite happy to chat about it to anyone who wants to. There is no reason to be lonely we are all here as a big eunuch family.