to become androgyous

[dee2essohkay (imported)]

I've been avoiding putting this into words, but the time is coming. I want to be androgynous. I want to have an androgyous look. I want to be not recognizable as either female or male. I want to be asked. I've heard/read, eunuchs here loving their smooth look. I'm so happy for you who have achieved this. I think my androgynous desire is actually the same except maybe in a different dimension or universe. there is smoothness in being seen as unknown "is this person female, or male?" and they would wonder how to ask. I've already been displaying my pronouns, itt (honorific of it) and else. it seems pleasing that if someone looks at me and decides to take the chance and decide to call me "he", to then stop in their tracks, realizing that that is wrong. this is what I'd like to achieve. it seems very possible. I hope I reach this goal.

[Valery_V (imported)]

I did not imagine this for myself, since I liked the slender male physique, with the exception of some details .

It seemed to me that I looked accordingly.

[Valery_V (imported)]

Hot Androgynous Guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4HWH-f ... iseEtienne

Beautiful Androgynous Men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZISR3c ... FEHAZARD56

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Androgyny

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny

[dee2essohkay (imported)]

Hot Androgynous Guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4HWH-f ... iseEtienne

hey thanks Valery. it seems everything stirs me up. so i do have to say that when i think of my situation and how i arrived, i have to mention that my first thought upon hearing/seeing the word “guys” is, i don’t want to take a look. and add “hot” to that and i want to escape even quicker.

but don’t think i’m coming on with a negative reply here. i did think a while but i did need to take a look at these. kind of get an idea if by someone else’s perceptions i still fit in. ultimately i do think so, but then i have all these other thoughts too.

first, the thing i found most striking is by looks alone i personally do not consider most of the Hot Guys as being androgynous at all. i’d say they are trans women. so that is my own perception. for myself i want to be as feminine as i believe i can get away with without actually looking like a woman. in another lifetime this would probably be quite different, but for now at my advancing age, i need to consider the lies i’ve lived by and the family i am a part of and intend to continue to be.

the next thought is that being presented as “Hot… Guys” makes it sound like someone is asking me, “don’t you want to get into bed with these guys” and i have to say absolutely not. no way. i do not want to touch anyone sexually ever. and this was the main reason i hesitated to even take a look.

to me, my “erotic” is poetry. i am gender poetic. absolutely this. poetic!!! that is how i identify. gimme a great poem and i could have… well, i dare not go further here.

i honestly cannot see what the strong pull sexuality has on people when i am so - not repulsed - and not indifferent - but just seeking a safe place. i guess it is clear that i find sex unsafe. i am attracted to women and i enjoy seeing, or writing about what i have experienced from the sighting, and slight interaction. but like waves with powerful undertows, i know i must stay clear. get too close and i begin to drown once again.

so thank you Valery, because i did need to see this link just to become more able to reveal who i really am.

[dee2essohkay (imported)]

Beautiful Androgynous Men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZISR3c ... FEHAZARD56

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again i am irked by looking. i do envy the long full heads of hair. mine is thinning and wont grow long enough. but i really don’t want to admire men even if they are pretty. it is ok to call me full if issues! i know i am. but at my age, i do believe that finding a comfortable place is more important and more likely than trying to fix up everything. i’ve tried. some things absolutely take too long and mostly some steps are too late in life to take now.

I am happy for whomever that have found at a young age who they are and are being in that way.

thanks again for these links.

[Valery_V (imported)]

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again i am irked by looking. i do envy the long full heads of hair. mine is thinning and wont grow long enough. but i really don’t want to admire men even if they are pretty. it is ok to call me full if issues! i know i am. but at my age, i do believe that finding a comfortable place is more important and more likely than trying to fix up everything. i’ve tried. some things absolutely take too long and mostly some steps are too late in life to take now.

I am happy for whomever that have found at a young age who they are and are being in that way.

thanks again for these links.

Please don't get angry .

This is just information about Androgynous.

I used to be indifferent to this style.

But you made me curious.

Might be of interest to others on the forum...

[dee2essohkay (imported)]

Please don't get angry .

This is just information about Androgynous.

I used to be indifferent to this style.

But you made me curious.

Might be of interest to others on the forum...

NOPE, I am not angry at all. i really do appreciate the replies. i am struggling to get myself securely into an appropriate place …and having found it, (i believe), i do have to do some things i find uncomfortable as a part of the process, but it is all in an effort to make sure i am able to find comfort and i do think that that is happening. i appreciate all your replies and i do agree that others reading these post will find them helpful. i’m all for that!!!

[Fixet (imported)]

I look androgynous, clothing also does alot.

I do wear men clothing, not into dresses and skirts hehe.

I can sometime confuse people on the first glance, and i don't mind that at all.

[dee2essohkay (imported)]

hmm, sex? no sex? and like I said elsewhere before, gender poetic!!! I believe the big change I experienced after orchi was the line from my sexuality brain to my gonads changed and is now from sexuality brain to poetry brain. and this is literally poetry I'm talking about. there is a strange eroticism in writing a good poem. sharing it with a like minded other within or without makes it more so. touching the body is not necessary or expected. but touching another's "poem" is the desired experience.

as for how I look, (or more accurately hope to look). maybe being non specific simply frees me from the lifelong burden of trying to live up to other people's expectations based on what they saw when encountering me. I want to move freely from elsewhere to elsewhere without obligation or just treat things poetically.