Russian Torture

[eunuchorn3 (imported)]

A report from several news sites are reporting Russian soldiers Castrating a Ukrainian soldier. I figured this would be of interest here.

[Losethem (imported)]

A report from several news sites are reporting Russian soldiers Castrating a Ukrainian soldier. I figured this would be of interest here.

Worthless without links to the relevant articles. If there are reports from several news sites as you suggest, you should be able to link those reports here. Otherwise, I'll be likely thinking it hasn't happened.

Edit: Now that I've found an article discussing it myself, OK, it happened. However, in the future if you're going to post something like this, please both link the article and paste the text into your message. First, it's considerate to the rest of the users, and second, it makes your post have credibility.

A link if anyone is interested:

'Appalling' videos alleged to show Russian soldiers castrating a Ukrainian soldier (https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/30/world/vi ... index.html)

By Tim Lister, Gul Tuysuz and Kostan Nechyporenko, CNN

Updated 4:14 PM ET, Sat July 30, 2022

(CNN) Videos alleged to show Russian soldiers castrating and killing a bound and gagged Ukrainian soldier are circulating on social media, drawing an accusation of potential war crimes from the United Nations and prompting a Ukrainian investigation into possible torture.

The three videos appear to show a soldier wearing what look like yellow and blue patches -- the colors of the Ukrainian flag -- on the ground, with his hands tied behind his back, first being gagged, then mutilated, then shot.

CNN cannot independently verify the authenticity of the videos which circulated widely on social media after first appearing on a pro-Russian Telegram channel. CNN also has not independently verified the nationality of the perpetrators or the victim.

The UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine said it is appalled by the videos. In a statement issued late Friday, the Monitoring Mission said the "torture and summary executions of prisoners of war and persons hors de combat are war crimes."

The Prosecutor General's office in Ukraine said it has launched a criminal investigation into the matter, "based on the results of the video processing, which shows how persons in the uniform of servicemen of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are torturing a prisoner in the uniform of a serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Measures are being taken to establish all the circumstances of the crime."

The video that appears to come first shows the victim being gagged surrounded by at least four men, one of whom is wearing what looks like a Russian uniform with the "Z" insignia associated with Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

A second video shows the same man writhing on the ground as a man wearing blue surgical gloves and what appears to be a Russian uniform cuts off the victim's underwear with a box cutter. The man uses the same box cutter to castrate him, then holds the mutilated genitals up for the camera. In the video, the perpetrators can be heard saying "hold him, hold him" in Russian.

The third video shows the bound and mutilated man being shot in the head and dragged away.

CNN has contacted the Russian Ministry of Defense for comment about the videos.

The UN Monitoring Mission said on Facebook it "is appalled by the latest videos, apparently showing the beating, castration and shooting of a captured soldier from the Ukrainian Armed Forces by a man, who appears to be a member of the Russian armed forces or affiliated armed groups."

"In one of the videos the tortured soldier appeared to be shot in the head and his body dragged into a ditch. If confirmed, these actions would constitute war crimes."

The UN Monitoring Mission said: "Unfortunately, this is only the latest in a series of videos that have documented torture and extrajudicial killings of prisoners of war and persons hors de combat, committed by belligerent parties."

"HRMMU has publicly reported on videos showing Ukrainian soldiers shooting the legs of three captured Russian soldiers and in a separate case shooting and killing an injured Russian soldier," the UN Monitoring Mission wrote.

It added: "All parties must refrain from torture, killings and threats of giving no quarter to captured combatants. They must promptly and effectively investigate all allegations of torture and unlawful killings."

High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell on Friday strongly condemned "Russia's ongoing illegitimate and unjustified war of aggression against Ukraine and its people brings further horrific atrocities day by day."

"Evidence in form of appalling video footage has been widely shared on pro-Kremlin social networks today, in which Russian soldiers commit a heinous atrocity against a Ukrainian prisoner of war," Borrell said in a statement.

Amnesty International has demanded an investigation into the videos.

"This horrific assault is yet another apparent example of complete disregard for human life and dignity in Ukraine committed by Russian forces. All those suspected of criminal responsibility must be investigated," said Marie Struthers, Amnesty International's Director for Eastern Europe and Central Asia.

"Since the start of Russia's war on Ukraine, Amnesty International has documented crimes under international law, like summary killings of captives by Russia-backed separatist forces in eastern Ukraine and extrajudicial executions of Ukrainian civilians by Russian forces," she said.

[ambiguous (imported)]

I will draw your attention to the first line of the text "CNN videos alleged to show ....)

I will leave it at that.

[Losethem (imported)]

I will draw your attention to the first line of the text "CNN videos alleged to show ....)

I will leave it at that.

Here in the US it's common for legitimate news organizations to speak in those terms until definitive proof is provided or someone is convicted by a jury of something. So the notorious case of OJ Simpson, where he was on trial for the murder of his wife, the media commonly used "alleged murderer" when speaking about him. He was acquitted, so now he's back to being OJ Simpson, no allegation associated when the media speaks about him in relation to a current event.

When the legitimate news organizations verify something, or a person has been convicted, "alleged" is no longer used.

[Origen22 (imported)]

This horrible torture and presumed murder is almost irrelevant to the Eunuch Archives which focuses on voluntary castration by medical professionals. Let’s all take a moment of silence to remember this brave ukrainien soldier who died defending his country from Russian aggression

[sakebigoe (imported)]

I don't generally weigh in on these sorts of conversations because frankly I find this situation not just distasteful but also tricky to navigate without starting an argument. That said if you will allow me a moment to bring up a few things I noticed in the screen shots of the video I saw (I refuse to watch the video, mutilation and executions are not the sort of thing I want to see). The uniforms being worn by the men committing this act were not Russian uniforms, the camouflage pattern appears to be a knockoff of ATACS FG, this is a common pattern used by paramilitary forces around the world and most notably in eastern Europe. This along with the fact that all the men in the pictures I saw were wearing brightly colored tennis shoes would lead me to believe these were most likely Russian backed paramilitary forces. The white Z mentioned in the article was also often worn by Pro Russian separatists to mark them as friendly to Russian forces. The uniform being worn by the man being mutilated was indeed a Ukrainian military uniform, the light green and tan dominant large print digital camouflage is a dead give away. This isn't proof that he is in fact a member of the Ukrainian military but based on the uniform alone I would say it's highly likely. The war in Ukraine is far from clean cut, the tensions we're seeing have been building since the fall of the Soviet Union. There's a lot of bad blood, and long standing hatred sewn between the multiple factions involved. Any time a war occurs with this much bad blood it will get ugly extremely fast, this will not be the last war crime we see coming out of this conflict and no amount of outside pressure will prevent these sorts of things from happening. All I can say is don't forget that these are real people being killed and maimed on both sides of this conflict here, this isn't a sports game or a movie. The only thing we should be rooting for is the end to this senseless bloodshed, and that's only going to happen when both sided of the conflict decide to come to the negotiating table.

[JustMe (imported)]

I can only agree. Russian barbarism has reached new heights. Poor lad, ending he’s life like this.

[Paolo]

OK, that's enough of that topic. Thank you.