Chemical castration: My journey starts tomorrow (hopefully)

[Muhkeesonni (imported)]

Hi there.

So I'm kinda bored, and just wanted to share my story, in case someone is interested in anecdotal data.

I'm male in my early 30's living in Finland, and I suffer from sever hypersexuality, which is non-medical term for constantly high sex drive.

I'v been suffering from hypersexuality as long as I can remember. Even one the earliest memories I have, is about my second cousin who took me to amusement park, and I think I liked it, because I found her sexually appealing. I would estimate my age to be at that point somewhere between 5 and 7. Then through my early teen years 13+, I masturbated frequently to adult entertainment content (videos, gifs and still images), depending on the day, sometimes 1 time, sometimes 3 times, in extreme cases 6 or more times. That pretty much continued to this day. I think my record is something like masturbating 12 times, when I was having a hangover. (Hangovers increased my sex drive to insane levels.)

I also have had high amounts of anxiety because of my hypersexuality. I used to get anxiety always when I saw attractive females. Almost any part of female body would instantly trigger my anxiety combined with extreme need for intercourse. So vanilla intercourse, anal intercourse, oral intercourse, "handjobs", french kissing and lip kissing. All those things would flood my mind. The anxiety would come, because I always knew there is no way an attractive female would want to have intercourse with me. (I no longer have this anxiety, because of my SNRI medication.)

So that's the basics. Now about castration.

I think I first heard about chemical castration maybe in 2014 or 2015. I think 2015 was the same year I asked first time a psychologist about it, and tried to convince her to ask her co-worker, a doctor, if they could chemically castrate me. However, my request was declined. I think the reason was pretty vague. Something like "It's very odd request. Sex drive is natural part of human being." (Or something like that...) I think they also reminded me, that the sex drive would decrease with aging. I believe I was 24 then.

So now when I'm in my early 30's, I have to say, that there has not been even a slight decrease in my libido.

All suffering has to end, sooner or later, and I think, that I have suffered enough. I'm simply put; done.

I don't want sex drive controlling my life anymore. I wan't to be 100% libidofree, or as most people call it, an eunuch. (I also humorously like to call it "artificially asexual".)

So as of today, March 28th 2022, I made an appointment for doctor, who is both doctor and sex therapist, to meet him tomorrow, on March 29th 2022.

I have a good feeling about that doctor. I hope he takes my suffering seriously. I don't think I'll leave his office until he offers me some form of hormonal treatment.

I'm interested primarily in Salvacyl (11,25mg, every 3rd month) or secondarily in Depo-Provera (800 mg/mL, once a week).

Wish me luck!

[WheelyCurious]

Welcome and good luck on your journey from a fellow traveler in the early stages...

WheelyCurious

[Muhkeesonni (imported)]

Welcome and good luck on your journey from a fellow traveler in the early stages...

WheelyCurious

Thank you for welcoming me and wishin me good luck. I wish you the same!

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So I'm back from doctor/sex therapist appointment. My appointment was originally going to be 40 minutes long, but the appointment ended up lasting 60 minutes. (To be honest, didn't feel like 60 min. Time really flied by.)

Anyways, the doctor was actually extremely professional, and knew actually quite alot about hormone therapies, chemical castration, etc. Which is kinda surprising, since his specialties and special qualifications are; gynecology and perinatology, and special interests are; pregnancy and childbirth, endometriosis, infertility examinations and treatments, contraception and fertility counselling. Pretty wide range of stuff, but nothing about antihormone therapy. But for my luck, he ended up being very knowledgeable about androgens.

However, I was slightly disappointed about what he told me about the medications I requested from him, which are Salvacyl and/or Depo-Provera. He told me that, here in Finland, for doctor to prescribe both of those medications, the doctor needs a special permission from goverment-owned organization Fimea, which is a central bureau under the Finnish Ministry of Social Affairs and Health that supervises medicines, blood and tissue products and develops the pharmaceutical sector.

He told me, for him to get that permission, I would have to first start with permission-free medication, and he told me that there is currently only one medication available, and it's called Androcur. He then continued, that during the use of Androcur, I would also have to start going to some sort of group sex therapy, only then, if the medication wasn't enough, and I had attended group sex therapy, the central bureau could permit the doctor the permission for him to prescribe Depo-Provera or Salvacyl.

Oh, I also have to add something quite interesting that he told me about those group sex therapies. He told me, that some people like sex offenders and pedophiles go to those therapies, and those people also use antihormonal therapy, however, after they have had many sex therapy sessions, most of them no longer need antihormonal therapy. When I heard this, I was pretty shocked. And to be honest, pretty sceptical. How can the therapy be so effective? Well, I'm eager to know how the therapy goes when I attend it. Can't wait.

So, here I am now. With the drugs in my hand. (If you are wondering why I wrote that in the plural, is because I didn't only get Androcur. I also got a suppliments for prevention of osteoporosis. Which is nice. I definitely don't want osteoporosis in my life.)

Oh and also I have to mention that I originally wanted to get rid of 95-100% of my testosterone, however since I can't have Salvacyl nor Depo-Provera, the doctor said that 50mg of Androcur will only remove about 20%. And he added, thats the way we start the treatment, and that we can later increase the Androcur to 150mg.

Additionally, here are some photographs for proof, (so people don't say that I'm full of shit), I blurred all the parts that contain my personal information, because - you know, for identity theft reasons. Here they are:

Invoice (price in euro):

Medical prescription for Androcur 50mg:

Medical prescription for Kalcipos -D Forte 500mg: (Funny that you need an actual prescription for this... So ridiculous.)

Receipt from the pharmacy store (prices in euro):

The cardboard package of Androcur:

The plastic package of Kalcipos -D Forte

Androcur pills:

Kalcipos -D Forte pill:

Images removed. Please post to a hosting site like Imgur and post the links! Thanks.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention. I'm no longer allowed to eat excessive amounts of spinach, rhubarb nor whole grains. The pharmacist told me that they can interfere with the medication. (I wonder how am I suppose to get fiber now, since I can't eat whole grains. Maybe I'll buy some psyllium powder.)

I'll be posting after 7 days about my results of using Androcur.

See you then!

[AcordingIP (imported)]

Are you starting on only 50mg per day of Androcur? Trust me, that will not be enough.

I am not a healthcare professional but I know more than most about chemical castration.

There are no known contraindications with diet - except alcohol. The excessive consumption of which can inhibit the therapeutic (limited to no sex drive) effects of the medication.

Eat as much spinach, rhubarb and whole grains as you like.

Seven days will likely not be sufficient to notice any difference whatsoever - even if you were on three times that dose. Which you probably should be for a few weeks.

My advice, offered in the spirit of achievement: Change your pharmacist.

Disclaimer: Nothing that I write is bourn out of medical education. Merely my own experience coupled together with extensive (over 15 years) research.

I do not recommend anyone embark upon a medication regime without the oversight of a physician.

[Kondraty selivanov (imported)]

Hello, I'm from Nigeria....also in the same mission.... much love man

[Marian-Zero (imported)]

Thank you for welcoming me and wishin me good luck. I wish you the same!

Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention. I'm no longer allowed to eat excessive amounts of spinach, rhubarb nor whole grains. The pharmacist told me that they can interfere with the medication. (I wonder how am I suppose to get fiber now, since I can't eat whole grains. Maybe I'll buy some psyllium powder.)

For Kalcipos -D Forte 500mg you need a precription because an overdose is dangerous. This drug is also the reason you should avoid rhubarb, spinach, etc. These vegetables contain large amounts of oxalic acid (the whole grain contains phytic acid, this can also be bad for the bones). In this combination, there is a risk of calcinosis, which could lead to kidney failure. The calcium, in turn, is supposed to prevent osteoporosis, but I don't train enough medicine for that (I'm only a chemist).

[Cseriess (imported)]

I used androcur for a while. 50 mg a day was plenty to reduce my T level to that of physical castration. Once my T was that low I cut the 50 mg in half and sustained castrate level on just 25mg a day. As you will hear a lot on here, your mileage may vary.i wouldn't take large doses until you have witnessed the effects of the 50mg for a month.

[WheelyCurious]

Glad to hear your doctor visit went well... I don't have the knowledge to comment on your prescriptions, but I've observed in the many threads by folks using Androcur that dosages vary quite widely. Given some of the reported side effects of larger doses I see no harm in starting with a low dose and seeing what it does. I assume your doctor will be having you do regular blood tests, and will adjust your dose depending on the results...

I don't know anything about the Kalcipos -D Forte, though I'm guessing its a combined vitamin D and Calcium supplement from the name. I've been on a fairly high dose Calcium Citrate prescription and OTC D3 because of my paralysis for ages, and the only diet restriction I was given was that I should take the calcium with food to avoid stomach upset. However it sounds like Marian-Zero knows more about the medication than I do, so probably best to stick with his advice, at least until you get a chance to ask the doctor or pharmacist to explain the reason for the restriction.

WheelyCurious

[sftineun (imported)]

Welcome to EA. Androcur alone, if taken for a long enough period, can chemically castrate you. I know because I am now a chemical eunuch by taking Androcur. As I do not like needles, I never tried DP. You can look up my journey, from 2005 to 2009, if you look up my previous user ID here: HKEUNUCH.

I started at higher dosages of Androcur, and later found that supplementing it with Tamoxifen (to prevent both feminization and osteoporosis) allowed me to achieve the same effects with much lower doses. My sustaining dosage was 12.5 mg Androcur and 10 mg Tamoxifen. I was enjoying the effects until low testosterone side effects interfered too much of my life, from fatigue to depression. But when I finally stopped Androcur, to my pleasant surprise, I never regained libido or sexual functions.

As for you, since you are quite a bit younger than I was then, you may need longer treatment.

Best of luck to you.

[Stefan (imported)]

I'm on Androcur since July 2021. It takes a while, but 50 mg a day is enough for my. I have still sex drive, but is has gone down rapily. Some side effects I had: tiredness and sweating. My balls went out of order within 2 weeks. My cum became clear. But today my orgasm a dry. I can still get hard, but I don't need it anymore.