Micronized progesterone for lowering T.

[erikboy (imported)]

I am testing a micronized Progesterone on myself. Mostly out of curiosity, to see how it works as a neurosteroid. And to see other effects.

So I started 12 days ago with dosage 200mg per day. First 3 days there seemed to be no effects. But then it seemed that concentrations reached cumulatively certain level that when I took another pill in the evening I noticed that after some 1-1,5h I became sleepy and there was some pleasant dizziness, like you have before you fall asleep. Like a sleepy baby. That was kind of surprise. Pleasant one. Sleep seemed to be better and deeper than usual. But then again morning coffee didn't seem to work as it used to work. Coffee just had very little effect. Also I noticed, I started to have small tiny headaches. Sometimes and very little. Almost unnoticeable.

Of the other side effects my breast feel... "tense" but there seem to be no noticeable change yet. And there shouldn't be without estrogens.

But, my morning woods got harder. Semen production seem to be increased and I feel slightly hornier than before. Masturbation frequency has increased noticeably too.

So, it was until yesturday. Suddenly I felt symptoms of low T. It is very difficult to describe. That sexual buzz in my head is almost gone. Significantly diminished. And I had hot flashes. that same feeling was repeated today with hot flashes.

If I compare Progesterone induced onset of low T, with Androcur effects, Progesterone effects feel far more pleasant. I don't know when will I stop, but it made me curious to see now, how it works. One more side effect, Progesterone makes your skin look better. Less wrinkles and smoother. And I notice that already. Even my friends notice that.

Androcur works like a hammer on your body. It stops T rather quickly, I got joint pains, I felt tired, weak, unable to sleep, I felt dizzy and was out of breath. We'll see. May be my T wouldn't drop that low. Also I suspect that Androcur caused some suspicious and cancerous looking formations on my skin. They emerged during Androcur trials. Twice. It might be coincidence, but 2 times in a row leaves much less room for coincidence.

[erikboy (imported)]

I added Tamoxifen to the mix. And italmost immediately removed feelings of puffiness and itchiness in breasts. It seem to be very effective antiestrogen.

About progesterone effects, the most pronounced effects are much better sleep and insensitivity to coffee. Coffee has much less effect on me. And I feel kind of mentally more stable. Calm.

I feel less horny. But not sexless, like with androcur, when my T dropped to 17ng/ml. I still have morning woods. May be not as hard as they used to be. But over all Testosterone is much more tolerable. But I have that almost irresistible desire to add Androcur to kill T entirely.

[erikboy (imported)]

I finished progesterone use. It is interesting that it helped to make me sleepy at first and I was able to have good sleep. Very good sleep. But over time as testosterone levels dropped, and insomnia set in due to low T, that effect was canceled. T did not drop as low as with androcur, as I still had half hard morning woods. But certainly it dropped. I felt more stable mentally at the beginning, but tended to have slight headaches. The reason I stopped was the feeling that I was developing depression, severe one. I never felt myself so disorganized and unable to cope with ordinary everyday stuff. No joy, no hope. And there seem to be another bad side effect, I started to gain fat, which did not happen with Androcur. At least not for me. My dosage was 200mg per day, may be it was too much.

[horny_lynne (imported)]

Hi

Can someone please give me a brand name etc for progesterone so that I can order some I already take 2mg Estofem daily but would like to take a small amount of progesterone to enlarge my nipples dont want any major breast growth they are a nice size already and I am happy with them, also what is the best way to take it orally or anally and what dose per day?

Thanks in advance.

[Stevenator (imported)]

200mg rectal dosing works best.

[horny_lynne (imported)]

Thanks Stevenator any more information you can give me on the use of progesterone would be great.

[seanthomas (imported)]

What I have found is that any hormonal changes seem to be pronounced at first then tamper off. That was the case with my trial of TRT, then more so when I started estradiol after years of no hormones. The estrogen did seem increase my libido after a while but similar to levels when I had no hormone replacement (reactive rather than proactive with sex). When I added progesterone the same thing happened. Libido went to virtually nil then after months began to return. It takes your body / brain time to adjust to hormonal influence.

[Stevenator (imported)]

H_L:

I see that you’re in the UK. From what I gather, it’s difficult to order DIY HRT into the UK. I’m unsure of your program, but I order through in-house pharmacy. It’s widely used in the US with DIY TG. Through this link on hrtcafe, there is a list of DIY providers. Check your country’s customs import rules and regulations. If you’re on a supervised program, check with your doctor.

Most TG Doctors follow the WPATH program, which IMO, is research science that is about 30 years old. WPATH does not use or prescribe Micronized Progesterone. But, with TG sites like on Reddit, etc, photos and testimonials have certainly brought awareness to it’s obvious benefits and results.

Dr. Will Powers is a very vocal TG doctor that promotes micronized progesterone, and documents the science and results. This in turn has lead a stampede to his office, with a year plus waiting list.

Check out his subreddit web link, and also TransDIY. Basically, in a nutshell, the stuff works.

On his YouTube lecture, go to the 00:55:20 mark for his reasons and methods for prescribing micronized progesterone. The entire video is worth watching, though.

If you’re unable to obtain micronized progesterone capsules, then topical bio-identical micronized progesterone cream should be available online through Amazon, etc. The results aren’t as dramatic, but it’s better than nothing.

In the video he states that rectal dosing goes straight into the bloodstream, whereas taken orally, the first pass goes through the liver and is broken down, which results in only about a 10% effectiveness. (Or a similar very low number).

https://hrt.cafe/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/

https://www.reddit.com/r/drwillpowers/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fefu33e8O-0

Good Luck

[erikboy (imported)]

Now that I can look back at the trial and that I can say, I feel as usual I have to add few comments.

I did not measure my T, but my morning woods got very weak, and I got insomnia and I even had some hot flashes. It is a sign of low T.

Plus, I started to feel depression. That never happened on Androcur, even when my T levels measured 17ng/dl. In the mornings I felt miserable. It felt like I am not capable for anything. I just couldn't do or organize anything. The world around me was falling apart. I knew that it was just a bare feeling and nothing real. That helped a bit. I was also severely deprived of sleep. I did not have any appetite. At all. Seeing food made me feel sick. I am not sure what caused this, but it was certainly related to micronized progesterone I was taking. I stopped. But symptoms continued to emerge. 2 weeks after stopping, I did some blood tests, which was a surprise, as my T levels were over 600ng/dl. But I was barely able to have erection. It could be that free T was very low. That I did not test. Over the weeks I started to feel better and by now my mornings are quite ok. I can sleep almost without waking up.

It is just another example about how differently our endocrine systems react. How different our feelings and reactions are, or YMWV (Your Mileage Will Vary).

Also, experiences of various chemcastration trials could easily vary from loss of T through orchiectomy.