The thing about writing.

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gandalf (imported) wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 4:29 pm I really enjoy most of the stories and often go back and reread some of them. I have noticed that some stories have something like this...Part one or to be continued, or some such phrase but nothing has been posted. SO I figure that the writer has left the building.

Well a couple of points. Isaac Asimov never finishedThe Foundation Series and he was working on it for 50 years. But consider this. Tobin's Brat Camp Part 1 received 28 votes. Tobin's Brat Camp Part 8 received 8 votes. That's the way it always runs. No matter how hard I try to improve quality and content each successive chapter in a series will receive less votes, less comments and less interest than the one before. Why should I spend time continuing a story line only to see interest drop off?
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Atreyu69 (imported) wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 10:13 am Well a couple of points. Isaac Asimov never finishedThe Foundation Series and he was working on it for 50 years. But consider this. Tobin's Brat Camp Part 1 received 28 votes. Tobin's Brat Camp Part 8 received 8 votes. That's the way it always runs. No matter how hard I try to improve quality and content each successive chapter in a series will receive less votes, less comments and less interest than the one before. Why should I spend time continuing a story line only to see interest drop off?

I have not been reading stories recently because of health problems. But, I know I am guilty of reading every chapter in a series but, I might only post or star the first few. I think I figure that the author doesn't really want to see a comment from me every time. Further, as I read on, I want to see the next chapter and might forget to rate the story. It is a factor of my being lazy and not that I didn't like the story.

I know this isn't going to happen unless the database were to be moved to a new platform but, it would be nice to see the number of times a story was viewed. I know that would not tell you how many people read the story. Yet, it would at least show click-throughs. As it is, there is no way to know if a thousand people read a story or if, as you say, interest is dropping off.
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Dreams of an ordinary reader:

1. I also like to reread the same story. It would be great if the re-appeal is somehow taken into account and the number of votes always increases.

2. The longer the story, the more chapters in it, the longer the storyline, the more valuable the work as a whole. The number of stars should increase with each step.
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TopManFL (imported) wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 10:23 am I have not been reading stories recently because of health problems.

Please take care of yourself and get well soon. 🙏
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Atreyu69 (imported) wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 10:13 am Well a couple of points. Isaac Asimov never finishedThe Foundation Series and he was working on it for 50 years. But consider this. Tobin's Brat Camp Part 1 received 28 votes. Tobin's Brat Camp Part 8 received 8 votes. That's the way it always runs. No matter how hard I try to improve quality and content each successive chapter in a series will receive less votes, less comments and less interest than the one before. Why should I spend time continuing a story line only to see interest drop off?

You're putting too much faith that the people voting or commenting on your stories are the only ones reading them. I'd speculate the numbers are MUCH higher for those who have read vs. those who have voted or commented. It's typical for all things in life.

Again write because you want to, not because you want accolades. The former is a good thing, the latter is attention seeking behavior.
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Losethem (imported) wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 6:07 pm You're putting too much faith that the people voting or commenting on your stories are the only ones reading them. I'd speculate the numbers are MUCH higher for those who have read vs. those who have voted or commented. It's typical for all things in life.

Again write because you want to, not because you want accolades. The former is a good thing, the latter is attention seeking behavior.

The old story database included a hit count, so you could tell how many times the story had been read, and I found that a better indicator of the popularity of a story.

You receive more ratings and comments than anyone on this board, so you really have no complaint coming, but as Losethem says, write for yourself and post the stories as you see fit. I've written a ton of stories that have never appeared anywhere but on my drive, writing them not caring whether anyone else ever saw them or not, or whether anyone else might like them or not. At least, no one complains if I don't finish them.
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Atreyu69 (imported) wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 10:13 am Well a couple of points. Isaac Asimov never finishedThe Foundation Series and he was working on it for 50 years. But consider this. Tobin's Brat Camp Part 1 received 28 votes. Tobin's Brat Camp Part 8 received 8 votes. That's the way it always runs. No matter how hard I try to improve quality and content each successive chapter in a series will receive less votes, less comments and less interest than the one before. Why should I spend time continuing a story line only to see interest drop off?

That's because your stories usually don't progress. Don't take it wrong, all your production is absolutely lovely, but at 8th chapter I know you will introduce new character and nobody get snipped.

I know is emotionally hard go through a similar narrative junction but readers needs conclusion. You can easily skip graphic parts but eventually you have to give what you promised
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CircItaly (imported) wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:15 am That's because your stories usually don't progress. Don't take it wrong, all your production is absolutely lovely, but at 8th chapter I know you will introduce new character and nobody get snipped.

I know is emotionally hard go through a similar narrative junction but readers needs conclusion. You can easily skip graphic parts but eventually you have to give what you promised

Hey @CircItaly,

You make some valid points on the way a story should develop. Multi-part stories are even more difficult to write because at the end of each part there needs to be a conclusion to the theme of that part and a foreshadowing of what will happen next.

Please write some stories and post time. You always have good suggestions and I know there is a great story inside you waiting to come out using the formula you just described.

TMFL
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Atreyu69 (imported) wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 5:31 pm Don't get me wrong. I love writing and I love posting stories on the EA. I love receiving comments (good and bad) and I love getting stars. And a big big thanks to Bella for always posting my stories so quickly.

But here's the thing. When I write I try to capture a certain elusive feeling. I want the story to reflect how I really feel about castration, the fears as well as the appeal. Often times I come very close to getting it right but at the last moment it sort of slips through my fingers. I've never really written the definitive eunuch story. I've never hit the bullseye. Sometimes I wonder if I ever will.

Perhaps there's something about castration that defies any logical explanation. How can I ever hope to explain something I don't understand myself.

Is there anyone else here who feels as I do?

I am an ordinary reader, I admire your literary works. They are deeply psikhologichna and are very entertaining, excite interest and good feelings. To me it is not important whether there is dynamics of development of a plot, the conclusion and other. The main thing that heroes bright, beautiful, their actions are motivated. I love your stories and it is good that they do not terminate, and continue to live.
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TopManFL (imported) wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:38 am Hey @CircItaly,

You make some valid points on the way a story should develop. Multi-part stories are even more difficult to write because at the end of each part there needs to be a conclusion to the theme of that part and a foreshadowing of what will happen next.

Please write some stories and post time. You always have good suggestions and I know there is a great story inside you waiting to come out using the formula you just described.

TMFL

I tried, a couple of my stories are online. But I can't do it again: it's too much emotional efforts
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