Shopping for a new car.

[Atreyu69 (imported)]

I know just what I want. A red 2021 Jeep Rubicon 392 6.4L Hemi V8. The beast puts out 470 hp and will do 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds. I've visited a number of Jeep dealers on this quest. Two things stand out. The first is the salesmen are so darn pushy. They want to sell you what they have on the lot that very moment. The other thing is they don't actually know much about the vehicles they are selling. I wish I could find someone who's both knowledgeable and low key.

[TopManFL (imported)]

I know just what I want. A red 2021 Jeep Rubicon 392 6.4L Hemi V8. The beast puts out 470 hp and will do 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds. I've visited a number of Jeep dealers on this quest. Two things stand out. The first is the salesmen are so darn pushy. They want to sell you what they have on the lot that very moment. The other thing is they don't actually know much about the vehicles they are selling. I wish I could find someone who's both knowledgeable and low key.

Hey,

I would recommend looking at one of the online purchasing sites. You can find them on Google.

Also, maybe take a look at some of the rental car companies - they really do offer amazing deals on slightly driven cars where you won't lose $3k when you drive it off the lot and then lose half the car's value of the car in the first two years.

I did look at carmax and carvana but, they did not have the model you were looking for. Some dealrs also allow you to order online, finance it through your bank or credit union*, and just pick it up when it's delivered.

---

*Carefully check for cross-collateralization when you use a credit union or bank. Example: You have a mortgage, credit card, and car loan through your credit union. You might have all your loans cross-collateralized and not even know it. So, if you fall behind in one load, the collateral you used on another loan can be foreclosed on or maybe your interest rate can be raised. Best, to finance your car through a bank or credit union where you have no other loans.

[seanthomas (imported)]

After dealing with a half dozen salesmen I got frustrated and went to Carvana. Found my model in ten minutes and twenty minutes later owned it. They delivered the thing two days later. Hassle free and didn't pay a dime more than at a dealership.

[Paolo]

If you can afford it, then make sure to get the maximum extended warranty and customer care package. A lot of mechanics I watch online don't have any kind words for Fiat (owns Jeep now).

[CircItaly (imported)]

I always wondered why Americans need so powerful car, what is the purpose? You can't certainly run on your highway like Germans does! Do yuo cover so much off roads? If you don't a Rubicon would be waste, like my dick lol

[Losethem (imported)]

I always wondered why Americans need so powerful car, what is the purpose? You can't certainly run on your highway like Germans does! Do yuo cover so much off roads? If you don't a Rubicon would be waste, like my dick lol

The USA is a vast country, which if you drive from San Francisco to Washington DC, reasonably would take you five days, though I once drove across half the distance in 1 day. That single day I covered a distance so long that I could nearly have driven from the southern tip of Italy to the furthest area in the north AND BACK. East to west, the US is a bit over 4000km wide. There are plenty of places here when you can drive REALLY fast, and the police will not be able to catch you with a radar device before you see them. We have a lot of places, though not legal, we can usually get away with a lot of vehicle related mayhem, mostly in the western part of the country.

I once drove a vehicle across a high, straight, bridge about one kilometer across and reached a top speed of 210km/h, it felt like I was doing 120km/h. Top speed of that vehicle was 300km/h. I've not operated that vehicle since.

Anyhow, my point is, here in the USA we have plenty of places to go fast, or go off road. Most of our individual states (there are 50 of them) are larger than many European countries.

[Atreyu69 (imported)]

In 2014 a 1971 Chrysler Barracuda with the legendary V8 Hemi engine sold for 3.5 million dollars. I'm not looking for a return that large. However I am looking for a car that may one day be considered a classic and a collector's item. This has nothing to do with practicality.

[Stevenator (imported)]

To each their own, but that monster engine in a short wheelbase, high clearance vehicle seems downright dangerous as hell.

The first thing that I thought of when I heard this was the old Jeep CJ5 that had a nasty habit of doing cartwheels down the road after slamming on brakes. They redesigned the Jeep in the late 70s because of all those wrecks.

I’ll say this, before the WuFlu wrecked my employment, I had a very high stress job. I must have taken out my stress behind the wheel, as I would fly to work driving stupidly as fast as traffic would allow, usually the whole trip being at 100mph.

But quite often I found myself being chased and raced it seems by another vehicle who traveled the same route on his commute. After a while it dawned on me that he wasn’t racing or chasing me, he was just driving his vehicle flat out top speed because he could.

I swear that thing would haul ass. It was quick and nimble. It had superb handling. It had a long wheelbase and a wide stance. It could cut in and out if traffic with cat-like reflex efficiency.

It was a 2020 Jeep Gladiator.

[Arab Nights (imported)]

My son is kind of like you. You might look to see if there are local race tracks that you can go to and let 'er rip. I have heard that there is a track near Salt Lake that the cops use to train their guys to drive at speed and they will let others use it.

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

I have to echo Stevenator's earlier post about the Jeep Gladiator. I have tested most of the available versions of the Jeep Gladiator and even thought it does have some drawbacks I have to say I love the vehicle for the most part. It is positively amazing what performance you can get out of the 3.6 ltr. engine, and even the 3.0 ltr. diesel has pretty good acceleration. The six speed manual transmission (if you know how to drive a manual) is really a superior driver. I know, "there is no replacement for displacement" in engine size, and the simple fact is that a 6.4 ltr engine makes more horsepower, but unless you are going for short, straight-line acceleration on flat, dry pavement, horsepower is NOT the only consideration or even the most important consideration.