I know that many eunuchs wish to keep their status to themselves and are not interested in advertising their castrated state to the world. So this post is probably not for those people.
But for those who take the opposite viewpoint, I was wondering about an easy way to do so...
I recalled a series of books by Issac Asimov in which a character was named R. Daneel Olivaw. The "R" stood for robot. In the universe of those stories this is how robots were named.
This got me thinking that maybe something similar might work for those in the eunuch family, something like "E. John Smith". With of course the "E" standing for eunuch.
What's in a name?
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Re: What's in a name?
I'm proud of being a eunuch I went through such physical pain that caused my testicles to die and ending in castration I got sick and they swelled up and stopped the blood flow first killing my right testicle and three months later killed the left one I went through mental anguish causing severe depression but the help of one of the members here I've been able to except my new condition and I am proud to be a eunuch and I tell others about it and how many of us are out there in hiding.
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Re: What's in a name?
Great idea! When I was a child, in school we were of course taught the old system of "Mr." for a man, "Mrs." for a married woman, and "Miss" for a single woman, my first thought was "why does a single woman get a special title but single and married men all use the same 'Mr.' title?" Well, the flow of political correction went the other way, and created "Ms." for all women, and now, some sci-fi and futurist thinkers want to see the title "Mr." and the address "sir" used for all adults, male, female, trans, whatever, all called "sir." I just cannot accept that sort of thinking, I suppose I am just some atavistic moron, but I WANT to be identified as and treated as what I want to be or at least what I am. And I also do believe that a eunuch is NOT in the most complete sense of the word a "man," I do NOT believe that a eunuch is any more or less than a man, but I believe at the very least a eunuch is a special sort of a man and that any man who accepts castration should rightfully and proudly be identified as a eunuch.
Unfortunately, we live in a very f**ked up society, that is populated with a bunch of people who just want to be angry at everyone else all the time for any imagined wrongs. And there a LOTS of people out there who just hate everything about the idea that any male would ever willingly get castrated, so that is the simple and ugly reality of it.
I would totally support any special title like the "Mr." for an intact male and a special... I don't know, what would be the best special title for a eunuch? "En."? I don't know what the title or the abbreviation should be, but I do think that someone who is that special should be able to use a special title, be identified as NOT male or female on identity documents, and be accepted and treated in reasonable accordance with their wishes. Seriously, when a man willingly becomes castrated, that should NOT be a shameful thing for him, her, or what ever new pronoun we should use for this person. But as I said earlier, the reality of our world today is that things are going the other way, and I suppose all of us, men, women, adults, children, humans and animals are going to eventually be regarded equally low, all of us called simply "it."
Unfortunately, we live in a very f**ked up society, that is populated with a bunch of people who just want to be angry at everyone else all the time for any imagined wrongs. And there a LOTS of people out there who just hate everything about the idea that any male would ever willingly get castrated, so that is the simple and ugly reality of it.
I would totally support any special title like the "Mr." for an intact male and a special... I don't know, what would be the best special title for a eunuch? "En."? I don't know what the title or the abbreviation should be, but I do think that someone who is that special should be able to use a special title, be identified as NOT male or female on identity documents, and be accepted and treated in reasonable accordance with their wishes. Seriously, when a man willingly becomes castrated, that should NOT be a shameful thing for him, her, or what ever new pronoun we should use for this person. But as I said earlier, the reality of our world today is that things are going the other way, and I suppose all of us, men, women, adults, children, humans and animals are going to eventually be regarded equally low, all of us called simply "it."
Re: What's in a name?
Younique (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:44 pm I know that many eunuchs wish to keep their status to themselves and are not interested in advertising their castrated state to the world. So this post is probably not for those people.
But for those who take the opposite viewpoint, I was wondering about an easy way to do so...
I recalled a series of books by Issac Asimov in which a character was named R. Daneel Olivaw. The "R" stood for robot. In the universe of those stories this is how robots were named.
This got me thinking that maybe something similar might work for those in the eunuch family, something like "E. John Smith". With of course the "E" standing for eunuch.
The long time abbreviation "Eu." for use in the common lexicon has been around for at least a couple hundred years.
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Re: What's in a name?
In olden times (before me and I am 81 closing in on 82) you could find the abbreviation "Esq" after a person of importance. Maybe that was used only in stories. So, instead of an "E" before the name why not put it after the name (Mr. John Doe, E or eu or some such thing)?
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Re: What's in a name?
In English the distinction between "Mrs." and "Miss" actually serves a useful purpose.
"Miss" means she is using her birth name, "Mrs." means she is using her husband's name. Back in the day she would have be introduced as "Mrs. John Doe," using her husband's full name, rather than "Mrs. Jane Doe," using her own given name -- a relic of "patriarchy" we can probably do without in the modern world. It's different in other languages -- in French and German the equivalent of "miss" is a diminutive (Frau/Fräulein, Madam/Madmoiselle) therefore probably should be done away with. But I think the use of "Ms" in English is not only silly and useless, but a linguistic abomination as well.
"Miss" means she is using her birth name, "Mrs." means she is using her husband's name. Back in the day she would have be introduced as "Mrs. John Doe," using her husband's full name, rather than "Mrs. Jane Doe," using her own given name -- a relic of "patriarchy" we can probably do without in the modern world. It's different in other languages -- in French and German the equivalent of "miss" is a diminutive (Frau/Fräulein, Madam/Madmoiselle) therefore probably should be done away with. But I think the use of "Ms" in English is not only silly and useless, but a linguistic abomination as well.
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Re: What's in a name?
racerboy (imported) wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:31 pm In English the distinction between "Mrs." and "Miss" actually serves a useful purpose.
"Miss" means she is using her birth name, "Mrs." means she is using her husband's name. Back in the day she would have be introduced as "Mrs. John Doe," using her husband's full name, rather than "Mrs. Jane Doe," using her own given name -- a relic of "patriarchy" we can probably do without in the modern world. It's different in other languages -- in French and German the equivalent of "miss" is a diminutive (Frau/Fräulein, Madam/Madmoiselle) therefore probably should be done away with. But I think the use of "Ms" in English is not only silly and useless, but a linguistic abomination as well.
I fought using Ms. for a long time. Then, I insisted it did not have a period after it. Later, I found inner peach by not fighting it any longer.
Also, it's actually not as new as many think. It's been used on and off in English for hundreds of years.
What I really want to know is why is nonetheless is one word. Also, bedroom and bathroom are both one word, while living room and dining room are both two words.
I learned a rule of thumb that if you frequently get naked in the room it's better hidden by using only one word. Then, I thought of locker room which is two words. Geez, the things I spend my day thinking of.
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Re: What's in a name?
Gay men have tried to invent and use all kinds of signals and visual codes to secretly or openly identify each other and exclude str8 people from knowing. But the other people usually adopt these secret codes and screw it up totally. Like Bruce Springstein s 80s album cover showing him wearing a red hanky in his back jeans pocket ! He must not have known he was flashing a clear signal to gay men that he was seeking some anal fisting sex with another man ! He likely saw some ultra butch gay man using a red hanky hanging out of his back pocket and adopted it for his own new found butch and muscled up look without knowing that man was gay and openly seeking anal fisting. Then other men looking at that album cover and seeing str8 Bruce flying a red hanky in his back pocket then started copying him. It blew the whole secret fisting hanky code all to hell with hipster str8 men flying those from their pants.