Chemical Castration to Treat Pedophilia

[JessicaH (imported)]

I’m sorry if I came off as overly harsh. I totally understand that people don’t get to chose what turns them on or who they are attracted to and I have tremendous respect for you for doing what you know needs to be done to keep yourself out of prison and to keep yourself from destroying some child’s life.

To bad there isn’t an organization that provides “no questions asked” castrations to men that have desires that are dangerous to others. Good luck with staying on the right path and finding a solution that works for you.

[rushsite (imported)]

I respect your passion to control the issues. I think a bilateral orchiectomy would be better than all the chemicals ... so long as you do not continue with hormone therapy.

[cboy0815 (imported)]

Instead of chemical castration, what often nor works, it would be better to give a estrogen replacement like tamoxifen.

Your T is a bit lower but you will stay at a healthy ammount and your libido should be shrinking to nothing with the fake estrogen... estrogen is absolute neccessary for libido in men.

Don't knwo why the castration route is so popular?

[erikboy (imported)]

Instead of chemical castration, what often nor works, it would be better to give a estrogen replacement like tamoxifen.

Your T is a bit lower but you will stay at a healthy ammount and your libido should be shrinking to nothing with the fake estrogen... estrogen is absolute neccessary for libido in men.

Don't knwo why the castration route is so popular?

Well, on what is your belief based?

For example, I am on Tamoxifen. And I noticed quite clearly (by libido increase) when my T level jumped from 17ng/dL to 47ng/dL. Both readings are still considered to be below castrate levels.

[experiment (imported)]

As I contemplate my situation, I feel myself realize that this is easily the second worse situation I've been in in my life, with complete derealization of ordinary emotional perception being the first. I think of a future in which this sexual energy persists in every moment of my life unless I masturbate to the thought of children for relief, and instead contemplate oblivion....

This is day 13 of 200 mg of cyproterone acetate from Shapeshifters. I have 28 60mg pills of raloxifene in case this isn't enough,, and 7.5 mg of leuprolide acetate as a final fallback, all purchased off the Internet. I will be giving a weekly log of my experiences.. So far the last four nights I have woken up in the middle of the night sweaty, and orgasms have required an increasing amount of work., which encourages me to believe that these drugs are legitimate

-Double22.

This is day 13 of 200 mg of cyproterone acetate from Shapeshifters.

Is shapeshifters an online pharmacy? I can't seem to get any info on it. I am seeking a supply of Androcur (cyproterone acetate).

Thanks

[JesusA (imported)]

I sent a copy of this thread to some of the members of the Sexnet community whom I thought might have useful information to share. Sexnet is open to members only by invitation and is limited to active researchers and writers on human sexuality. I have received one response so far...

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Hi Double 22,

I have been invited by a reader of Eunuch Archive to comment on your post of 31 August, "Chemical Castration to Treat Pedophilia".

Apart from immediately wishing you well and saying I greatly sympathise with you in your present predicament, I should start by emphasising that I am not medically qualified, nor do I have experience of the chemical therapies in question.

You might find my input of some use, though, because I am sexually attracted to children myself and at age 74 I can draw on a lifetime's experience of coping with my feelings. Long discussions with hundreds of others who share such feelings have contributed to this experience and to my overall perspective.

One bit of good news is that sexual "energy", or libido, typically declines somewhat as time goes on. For anyone who has a problem, one would expect it to be at its most intense in one's teens and twenties. This was certainly the case with me. I did not use drugs aimed specifically at sexual response but in my twenties I did drink far too much alcohol, which I guess you could say was another form of self-medication.

I was a smoker, too, which might not sound very interesting or significant but I have a story about it that could well be relevant to your situation.

Deciding that sexually deviant thoughts and heavy drinking were quite enough vices for any one person, I stopped smoking. This was followed by a recurring dream. Practically every night for months and months I would have a dream in which I found myself lighting a cigarette. Immediately, still dreaming, I would remember that I was supposed to have quit smoking. So I would snatch the imaginary cigarette from my mouth and crush it underfoot.

This went on for six months. Then, one night, the dream changed. I imagined, as usual, that I had just lit a cigarette. But this time, instead of angrily tearing it from my lips, I just said to myself – still dreaming – "Oh, what the hell, just one cigarette won't hurt."

After that, I never had any more dreams about smoking. And in my waking life I never went back to the habit. I had thoroughly kicked it.

The point of the story is not about smoking itself, or how to quit any particular habit, but about our anxieties concerning such behaviours. My hope is that the story, once I have expanded upon it a little to show its relevance to masturbating over thoughts of children, will be of some help in bringing down your anxiety level, and that this in turn will have a bearing on your overall welfare and ability to handle your paedophilic feelings.

One thing that leapt out at me was your response to the highly suspicious, almost accusatory comment by Jessica H that "if you hurt a child you need to hang".

You said, "

I tell people I consider death a preferable option to masturbating to thoughts of children.

"

Now, the fact that you would think such a thing is highly revealing. It tells me you are at the high end of the scale for anxiety about your attraction to children. Of course, it is only to be expected that many of us will be extremely disturbed by our paedophilic thoughts. It could hardly be otherwise in view of the intense focus on child sexual abuse that has been a feature of western culture, especially, in the last few decades.

But some of us are more vulnerable to the anxiety this social atmosphere generates than others. Those who are highly conscientious and try hard to stick by society's rules are bound to be heavily impacted.

Conscientiousness in this matter is undoubtedly a good thing to the extent that it keeps children safe from sexual assault and consequent harm.

But the feeling can be taken too far. Masturbating to thoughts of children is not the same as sexually assaulting them. It does them no harm at all. In fact, masturbating offers a safety valve: it offers a safe means of sexual release.

Basically, if you can see that it is nothing to worry about, you will find your life less dominated by it. Once you realise it is nothing to lose sleep over, there is a good chance you will actually sleep easy without any need for drastic and quite possibly harmful chemical "remedies" that turn out to be not very remedial.

Don't worry about "excessive" masturbation. Practically all male teenagers masturbate to "excess", and for those not fortunate enough to enjoy the easiest and most socially acceptable forms of sexual attraction this "excess" is likely to continue through the twenties and perhaps to some extent beyond.

But you know what? It really doesn't matter. You might get a sore dick but you are not going to go blind. And you won't be hurting children. In fact it will help you to cope. Far from making you go insane, it could actually keep you sane.

I note that your testosterone level is normal. Again, this suggests to me that your problem is anxiety, not an abnormally high libido. Anxiety is a problem that can be handled without drugs, once you decide, as per what I have said above, that there really is nothing to worry about.

Not that sexual attraction to children is unproblematic. It is of course a massive problem to those of us who have such feelings, especially for those of us – including me – who have absolutely zero sexual attraction to adults, and who even find adult bodies sexually repulsive.

It is a problem because we can never touch children in a sexual way, no matter how affectionate and loving we feel towards them. This can unquestionably be a source of great heartache.

I can tell you, though, from my long experience of life, that it is possible to weather the storm of intense sexuality and to enjoy life more and more as time passes.

The first step is to have the knowledge that this is possible, and to understand that this gives a reasonable basis for hope.

The second step – realising that you can begin to relax and not rely on dubious medications – will come of its own accord once you begin to accept the first.

–––Thomas O’Carroll

[Double22 (imported)]

That's fine, I suppose I did make it sound like I was on the verge of something. I wanted to vent about how difficult it felt, but for me, "losing control" means masturbating to the feelings without any use of images. I definitely could have made my resolution more clear.

I guess the reason I didn't do this to counterbalance the gravity of my story was that I got tired of seeing the same pattern of non-offending pedophiles explaining their situation while giving out an aura of brokenness and demoralization. There's so much... fatalism, resignation and low self esteem coming from this corner of the sexuality spectrum, and I began to associate those things with phrases like "I hate these desires" or "I would never hurt a child", which often appeared alongside an unnecessarily supplicative disposition. I wanted to set myself apart from this, and that meant not making these reassurances. At this point I should say that both of those statements hold true for me.

Still, I do see how you would interpret my disposition as a sign that I posed a risk. I'll be mindful of this in the future when I'm writing on this topic.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

Instead of chemical castration, what often nor works, it would be better to give a estrogen replacement like tamoxifen.

Your T is a bit lower but you will stay at a healthy ammount and your libido should be shrinking to nothing with the fake estrogen... estrogen is absolute neccessary for libido in men.

Don't knwo why the castration route is so popular?

Castration is simple, faster, and cheaper than lots of drugs. The VA does castrations like crazy because its cheaper, faster, and less work over the long term than drugs.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

Hey, as a kid, I wanted to seduce adults. It can go both ways. But knowing how much trouble adults would get into. I controlled my impulses. It can be done.

[Double22 (imported)]

Huh, mental imagery and gut-and-chest feelings to go with it!

Is there a way to block individual posts so that I don't have to see them?