Are eunuchs still males

[mattman59 (imported)]

Amazon and Redbubble.com have them. Amazon has the bold "EUNUCH AND PROUD" shirt while Redbubble has more subtle that just state "EUNUCH."

Don

Eunuchs have come a long way to have shirts like that on Amazon. Awesome.

[mattman59 (imported)]

All of you missed the point!

Are we not men? WE ARE DEVO!

Love Devo and all those New Wave/Alternative bands from the 80's.

[thoughtful1998 (imported)]

It's an odd question: there are, it seems, thirteen different sexual indentities.

For example, considering my case:

1) after castration my body isn't a male body anymore;

2) but yet a little adrenal production of male hormones kept my sex drive still partially functioning, even at a very minor level and with serious changement (blood tests seem to confirm that);

3) in the most part of my sex-life my "role" in the game was more female-like than male-like...

4) so i'm not a physical male with partial male identity and male hormones but a female-like personality; i'm not a proper transgender in any case; so i think that "genderfluid" could be a proper definition.

[Begoneboy (imported)]

The main way any eunuch would announce his status to strangers is simply choosing to get naked in locker rooms, public showers, nude beaches, saunas, drs offices, and the various other normal places that unaltered men get naked. I think being naked in front of other people, especially other males, is a normal part of life for most males.

I think its great when eunuchs feel confident and comfortable enough to get naked in front of other people, especially intact males, with no shame or embarassment.

I love hearing how people react to eunuchs and nullos in different situations. I think hearing how people really do act in members experiences is very interesting and helpful for eunuchs, nullos, and any men thinking of modifying their own body.

My experience of getting naked in front of men as a nullo has been more negative than positive. In our present society to get naked in front of gay men has generally resulted in expulsion from the venue. While doing So in front if straight men has been to be considered feminine. In time that has become a pleasure but there was a learning curve. The gay crowd has never accepted it and I am shunned by them the majority of the time.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I m sorry to hear that Begoneboy. I assume that since most gay men are seeking another male with a penis and testicles that most gay venues remove anyone lacking those. Just making money off what their customers want from that venue. I m guessing most gay venues don t even know which sex you are when they remove you. They just do the simple sight of your genitals and make their decision solely on that basis.

I do have to say that I have seen some obviously designated gay men s bars utterly ruined by allowing any women in them. As soon as any women start using a gay men s bar, even lesbians, straight men start following the women inside to land female sex partners. Then the straight men object to gay men assuming males inside an obviously gay bar are gay ! The straight men get angry or violent when any gay men try to flirt with them inside a gay bar. The whole purpose of a gay men s bar, to meet other men by flirting with the men in there ! Once men have to worry about figuring out which men in a bar are gay or straight, you have failed the whole point of a gay men s bar ! It becomes just another endless straight bar and the gay men lose another of the far too rare men s gay bars to women.

This is why gay venues remove anyone without a penis. I m guessing eunuchs would never be removed as long as they still have a penis.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I wear a "EUNUCH AND PROUD" T-shirt.

Don

I think that s great that you have the bravery and balls to wear that T shirt ! This is what it takes to help make an unspeakable topic more accepted in the public arena of culture.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

When we get to that point where castration is a normal choice for men then we have truly crossed over the threshold and achieved victory.

I think the only way that will ever be attained is by men speaking out about castration openly and through websites like this one. The same is true for dickless men and nullos. How else will other people ever be exposed to eunuchs and nullos to understand and accept them ?

[Begoneboy (imported)]

I m sorry to hear that Begoneboy. I assume that since most gay men are seeking another male with a penis and testicles that most gay venues remove anyone lacking those. Just making money off what their customers want from that venue. I m guessing most gay venues don t even know which sex you are when they remove you. They just do the simple sight of your genitals and make their decision solely on that basis.

I do have to say that I have seen some obviously designated gay men s bars utterly ruined by allowing any women in them. As soon as any women start using a gay men s bar, even lesbians, straight men start following the women inside to land female sex partners. Then the straight men object to gay men assuming males inside an obviously gay bar are gay ! The straight men get angry or violent when any gay men try to flirt with them inside a gay bar. The whole purpose of a gay men s bar, to meet other men by flirting with the men in there ! Once men have to worry about figuring out which men in a bar are gay or straight, you have failed the whole point of a gay men s bar ! It becomes just another endless straight bar and the gay men lose another of the far too rare men s gay bars to women.

This is why gay venues remove anyone without a penis. I m guessing eunuchs would never be removed as long as they still have a penis.

cutnbulls2ox That was a pretty nice way of attempting to justify any particular group practicing what they scream at the top of their lungs is wrongly being done to them on so many levels. My minds view doesn't see black, white, male, female, gay, straight or anything other than a human being. For a human to practice the sort of prejudice against others that the human complains is being practiced against themselves is simply hypocrisy by any other name. But then again, that wasn't the topic of this particular thread so it's best that I stick to the topic which was "are eunuchs still males" which has but one answer. Of course they are physically even if mentally or emotionally they may not feel such.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

Hi Begoneboy,

I m glad you understand my intention. Yes, life can be unfair. People certainly are. I think everyone experiences some of it in some form in their lives. I get some really hateful and mean looks and comments and I have been treated like shit in some fem gay bars and settings as a masculine gay man because I m far from what those men are seeking in those gay venues. As young men you get free drinks and lots of attention in gay bars. As men age, they get less of that welcome. I m not saying its right. I m just saying it is. That s all. I don t think its any more personal than age or butch vs fem or whatever else people people personally seek out and prefer or don t prefer. It happens to all of us.

We just end up trying to seek out people who will appreciate us for what we are, and for what we can offer other people.

Now I ll shut up. Thanks.

[OneBallBoi (imported)]

I will stand with others here.. Male/Female is a mental state of mind. It you brain says you are a male, then you are a male.. If your brain says that you are a female.. Then by gosh, you are a female.. I have been a Eunuch for most 15 years now, but I am still a male in my mind. I have no sexual interests at all and that is a good thing. But I am still a male.