Are eunuchs still males
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Varys2013 (imported)
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Re: Are eunuchs still males
A eunuch friend has put as, "I'm no longer a man, but I will always be male.". It's perhaps a subtle distinction, but it kind of makes sense. Obviously it all hinges on how we define words. If a man's manliness is defined as sexually aggressive, able to father children, able to build large musculature, things that are testosterone-fueled, then without balls we don't have that. Of course, supplemental T can bring that back, in which case the lack of balls only affects fertility.
On the other hand, some of us choose to have no testosterone, and supplement with estrogen. We may choose to have no sexual ability or desire, will be obviously sterile, have limited body strength potential. Depending upon how one defines "being a man", if it depends on those things, then we simply are not. We are something else. Still male, but perhaps not "men" by such a definition.
On the other hand, maybe a "man" is one who has courage, strength of conviction, stands up for his family, stands up for what he thinks is right. Responsibly providing for those he loves, contributing wherever he is, however he can. By *that* definition, I think many eunuchs are fully men. Could even be considered more bold, having the courage to make a physical change that would be unthinkable to many, to achieve their vision of who they are!
On the other hand, some of us choose to have no testosterone, and supplement with estrogen. We may choose to have no sexual ability or desire, will be obviously sterile, have limited body strength potential. Depending upon how one defines "being a man", if it depends on those things, then we simply are not. We are something else. Still male, but perhaps not "men" by such a definition.
On the other hand, maybe a "man" is one who has courage, strength of conviction, stands up for his family, stands up for what he thinks is right. Responsibly providing for those he loves, contributing wherever he is, however he can. By *that* definition, I think many eunuchs are fully men. Could even be considered more bold, having the courage to make a physical change that would be unthinkable to many, to achieve their vision of who they are!
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Re: Are eunuchs still males
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Re: Are eunuchs still males
Hmmmmmm
I view the terminology the other way. A eunuch is not male, but can still be a man. One being the physical "male" and the other mental "man"
As someone said, there are plenty of guys with balls that aren't MEN.
Man to me being a way you carry yourself in society, doing the right thing..etc
Although I also think it is all just labels...you are whatever you feel you are or aren't. Some want to present and be seen as guys, others as women, and others as androgynous...you can present one way and feel differently internally.
I view the terminology the other way. A eunuch is not male, but can still be a man. One being the physical "male" and the other mental "man"
As someone said, there are plenty of guys with balls that aren't MEN.
Man to me being a way you carry yourself in society, doing the right thing..etc
Although I also think it is all just labels...you are whatever you feel you are or aren't. Some want to present and be seen as guys, others as women, and others as androgynous...you can present one way and feel differently internally.
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Re: Are eunuchs still males
I mentor young males to be men. Most often the boys who dont have good role models. I teach the responsibility of manhood, not 'malehood'. They are already males but some do not know how to behave like men. Being a eunuch makes no difference to my role as a man. I'm still exactly the same person I was pre castration. I simply have no nuts. I'm not pretending I'm something I'm not. I am who I am. It is society that perceives the acceptable role and conduct of a man.
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chilliwilli (imported)
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I don't think it matters what you or anybody thinks you are. Way more important to just "be", and in control. You want to feel more male, or masculine? Do it! Find what you did growing up. Run away if you need to! Cause pain, bite stomp toes whatever! Your not a kid anymore, take the wheel, study the tarot.
This is major recurrent issue for many here. My veiw, after being socialized and raised as a slave girl in a feminist utopia, I am not male...I am a jinni. Or as Google just tried to correct....a Minnie. Or Whatever.....wait till you want to flush your POS man down the toilet.....scary...oh your a man now! LIVE IT! Kill IT!.....and maybe get laid find your stud...being a man or male is a license to dream, to become whatever and be that! Don't go crazy....just walk right into the next thing! Take control of time, you are sexy, fun, original and desired....trust me no one is buying the BS their selling as entertainment.
What did the ancients do to control masculinity? Answer that and you will be spiritually connected, whole, connected and prob horny yes HORN E as hello! Go find your stud.
This is why accepting an "identity" is so harmful. You become an annointed freak and its like a Hollywood. Life....Not Healthy!!!!Bob Dylan told them to go F themselves. The Beatles wrote a song about it. You go rediscover yourself now.
No More Tears,
chilli
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Re: Are eunuchs still males
Honestly, since gender is a spectrum, I think it is up to the individual to decide whether or not they are still a man once they become a eunuch. I now consider myself less of a man than I used to be and more nonbinary. There are plenty of enbies that are becoming more vocal, and many states are now recognizing those who do not fit into the black and white gender binary.
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mattman59 (imported)
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I'm the right normal kind of man now. A moderated man. Testosterone levels should be low in men. Many experts agree with this. You don't need much testosterone to father children and have strength. Too much testosterone is unnatural in men and turns them into freak shows with too much sex drive and aggressive behavior. Men were never meant to be that way. Biggest myth ever. Very abnormal.