Over active libido rant and question

[Nathan74 (imported)]

I'm 45 and a life long sufferer from an over active libido and I'm curious what others are dealing with? My problem peaks and then decreases a bit. It's always really high and then there are periods where it's overwhelming for weeks, followed by a short cooling down period. Getting off doesn't help because I don't get that after affect the people talk about. I've had it happen in the past but I don't remember the last time that it happened. It's embarrassing but since I'm here to find a solution I can say that I have to masturbate no less than 4 times a day but normally it's more. Unless I'm exhausted, really sore, or sick I'm off satisfying an urge. I've even masturbated in the hospital after a major surgery which hurt but I still did it.

I can go on and on about porn addictions, marriage stress from it, fetish habits, etc, etc. Are the fluctuations in drive and inability to be satisfied after an orgasm sound familiar to you?

I've tried Androcur and Depot Provera about 2 times each in the past 15 years since first finding this website. I did 2 depot injections back to back and one a month later and then I stopped. It took a month to show any changes and while it helped it wasn't strong enough. The first experiment involved 1 shot which helped a little bit and then faded.

Next it was Androcur. The first time I lasted a week and got spooked. I didn't notice anything for two plus weeks and then wow I had some relief. It was maybe 2 weeks of misery reduction then it faded.

The second time was the best. I stayed on it for almost a month and I got a taste of castration for a few weeks after. I didn't go long enough to experience hot flashes but it was great while it lasted. I still had T in my system but it was much more tolerable. I would like to get cut and then go on a low dose of estrogen. I dabbled in estrogen before too and it's a feel good hormone for me unlike testosterone.

So let's see what I can achieve in this area now that I can.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I think tons of men do experience extra high sex drives and urges like you describe. It does inspire a lot of castration ideas and fantasies as you drive home all spent from a long night out tomcatting and drag ass into work in the morning with little sleep. Its one of the downsides of being extra horny and so controlled by your balls and hormones. But most sex addicts still choose to keep their balls and sexual abilities since sex is such a giant pleasure in their lives.

Worries of getting STDs and HIV from letting your dick head make your decisions and take risks in sex adventures also triggers lots of castration tug of wars in your own head.

[notsomanly (imported)]

Getting rid of Testosterone's influence has been one of the best decisions I've ever made. I also had more libido than I knew at the time was good for me, wasting a lot of my life pursuing sexual fantasies, porn, etc. Thankfully I never engaged in dangerous behavior with others. My marriage was great, but threatened by the secrecy I had to have. I absolutely don't miss having libido. It's like being liberated to be the person I always wanted to be. Now I find that I was that person, but was under the influence of that evil hormone. I have had no regrets in destroying my testicles with CaCl2. Even much better than being on Androcur.

I'd recommend staying on Androcur for at least 3-6 months so you can really experience what castration would be like. Even though some report depression and other unwanted side effects, I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't seem to have any. Taking Estradiol is helping keep my mind sharp and my bones strong. Some feminization is surprisingly enjoyable.

[TopManFL (imported)]

Nathan,

Welcome. You didn't mention a therapist but, that would be a great place to start. You sound very miserable with such a high libido and there are therapists who specialize in helping.

One suggestion is to consider that it's not porn addiction - it's either high T levels or your body reacts to T in with a hyper libido.

[Nathan74 (imported)]

Nathan,

Welcome. You didn't mention a therapist but, that would be a great place to start. You sound very miserable with such a high libido and there are therapists who specialize in helping.

One suggestion is to consider that it's not porn addiction - it's either high T levels or your body reacts to T in with a hyper libido.

I don't have time or patience to sit down with a therapist at the current moment. I haven't even considered that option until now. I would say porn is a symptom and not an addiction for me. Even when my wife was interested in sex we would do it and a little while later I would be so horny that I had to get up and hit the bathroom once, even twice just to relax and fall asleep. I even tried giving up porn and masturbation for 3 months. I did it, it was really bad, and there was no benefit. I don't enjoy the orgasms anymore. I know I have high T levels because I had them checked 10-15 years ago. I don't remember what the results were but I was up at the top. Since then I have not noticed a decline with age. The only thing that knocked it out was sleep apnea which I have under control. I need to get my T level down and see how things go.

[notsomanly (imported)]

I don't have time or patience to sit down with a therapist at the current moment. I haven't even considered that option until now. I would say porn is a symptom and not an addiction for me. Even when my wife was interested in sex we would do it and a little while later I would be so horny that I had to get up and hit the bathroom once, even twice just to relax and fall asleep. I even tried giving up porn and masturbation for 3 months. I did it, it was really bad, and there was no benefit. I don't enjoy the orgasms anymore. I know I have high T levels because I had them checked 10-15 years ago. I don't remember what the results were but I was up at the top. Since then I have not noticed a decline with age. The only thing that knocked it out was sleep apnea which I have under control. I need to get my T level down and see how things go.

It really does seem like a biological problem that therapy might not touch. I know from experience that even 20 years of work with an excellent therapist kept missing my big problem which was T-driven libido. It was bad enough for me but sounds much worse for you. I'm feeling much more sane with low-T. I did about three months on Androcur and loved the effect. Side effects can happen, but not noticeable for me.

[Losethem (imported)]

You had your levels tested somewhere between 2004 and 2009. Before you do anything, it's time to get them checked again. Just because it was high 10-15 years ago, does not mean it's at the same level now. The reason you do this is to make sure that's it's a high level of testosterone which is causing your concern, and not something else. It could very well turn out it's high T, but it also could turn out differently.

Should your levels be high, I think you're an excellent candidate for libido suppression with chemical castration, as a test drive before you take the surgical castration route. Based on what you said above, when you tried it in the past, you didn't do it long enough to have it work.

[TopManFL (imported)]

It really does seem like a biological problem that therapy might not touch. I know from experience that even 20 years of work with an excellent therapist kept missing my big problem which was T-driven libido. It was bad enough for me but sounds much worse for you. I'm feeling much more sane with low-T. I did about three months on Androcur and loved the effect. Side effects can happen, but not noticeable for me.

Nathan,

I was suggesting therapy as a means to the end.

Finding a doctor to prescribe chemical castration or a doctor to physically castrate is your end goal. So, a therapist's letter would help a great deal. Of course, there are ways to accomplish either without therapy. However, if you are looking for your insurance to pay ... you get the point.

[Nathan74 (imported)]

Nathan,

I was suggesting therapy as a means to the end.

Finding a doctor to prescribe chemical castration or a doctor to physically castrate is your end goal. So, a therapist's letter would help a great deal. Of course, there are ways to accomplish either without therapy. However, if you are looking for your insurance to pay ... you get the point.

I understand what you are a saying. I've been through too many doctor appointments already including nerve blocks, etc, that I would rather go a different route. Anytime you mix the spine and pain management into the mix it's just pills and injections. A therapist would just make things worse. I can take androcur until my testicles atrophy without ever taking a day off of work. Then if I want to have them removed it would be a lot easier if they are already shut down. I can always do injections and then see a doctor, that seems to work pretty good from the stories that I've read. I'm going to place an order this weekend. I can buy a years supply of androcur for a fraction of the price of insurance copays on a therapist during the time it would take me to convince him or her to prescribe something.

[TopManFL (imported)]

I understand what you are a saying. I've been through too many doctor appointments already including nerve blocks, etc, that I would rather go a different route. Anytime you mix the spine and pain management into the mix it's just pills and injections. A therapist would just make things worse. I can take androcur until my testicles atrophy without ever taking a day off of work. Then if I want to have them removed it would be a lot easier if they are already shut down. I can always do injections and then see a doctor, that seems to work pretty good from the stories that I've read. I'm going to place an order this weekend. I can buy a years supply of androcur for a fraction of the price of insurance copays on a therapist during the time it would take me to convince him or her to prescribe something.

Hey,

I understand 100% I would at least recommend that you look into companies that allow you to get basic blood work for liver and kidney function, red blood cells, white blood cells, etc.

Most people don't know they can order those test themselves and then get the blood draw at the same Lap Corp (or other lab site) they would use if the doctor ordered the test. You then get the results online.

It's preferable to have a doctor read the results but, ordering the tests yourself is better than not knowing what the chem castration is doing to your liver and other body functions.