T and fat loss

[anorchid (imported)]

Hello,

Having a hard time googling up useful results on this

I’m a newer surgical eunuch, 6 months or so, been on T (test cyp) the past 2 months

Been working a desk job for the past decade and I’ve gained a good 30lbs of excess fat I’d like to lose

How does T play into all of this, in peoples’ experiences? I’ve found a study here or a study there that say it encourages fat loss (not necessarily “weight loss”) in men, but so far, I haven’t seen it, if anything slightly the opposite. Just got the approval from my doctor to up my dose to 100mg/week of test cyp (I started at 50) and hoping that helps...

My biggest problem is obviously I sit at a desk 10+ hours a day, hardly ever work out, and don’t eat great - I’m not asking for a miracle here, just wondering how people’s personal experiences and theories with it go, like is it a “damage multiplier” - shedding fat if you do work out, increasing fat even more if you don’t? (That’s my current working theory). Is there a certain range or dosage frequency anyone’s found that helps them shed pounds?

I found a doctor on YouTube who said to inject test cyp twice a week for best results, he was ripped but also referred to T as “that good man oil” so I have concerns about taking advice from him

[ambiguous (imported)]

I don't think there is a an ideal dose for fat loss.

I am doing my Test shots twice weekly and that seems to work well.

The logic behind twice weekly shots is your T levels are more stable.

Some people inject more often than this (Micro dosage) but a lot of single use plastic hitting the bin so not a fan.

I think other than going to the gym you may have to take a good look at what you are eating.

It seems like you know where you are going wrong and I think you should address some of the issues you have raised.

[seanthomas (imported)]

What I have found is that no testosterone mostly affects my desire to get up off my ass and exercise. When I get motivated as I have been lately I can keep my weight in check. I've lost ten pounds in just over a month simply walking a few miles three times a week and slightly changing my eating habits.

[Cseriess (imported)]

This is one of the most confusing things i read about. I am fit and active, 150lbs 5' 10". I do not want to put on weight or become feminised. I know ymmv, but do you think, Sean Thomas, that that can be avoided if you have the will to keep excercising and motivated, or that biology dictates u will become chubby and feminine.

[seanthomas (imported)]

This is one of the most confusing things i read about. I am fit and active, 150lbs 5' 10". I do not want to put on weight or become feminised. I know ymmv, but do you think, Sean Thomas, that that can be avoided if you have the will to keep excercising and motivated, or that biology dictates u will become chubby and feminine.

Well that's a hard one as there are so many other factors involved such as genetics, metabolism, diet, activity, over-all health, etc. Testosterone cypionate (150mg twice monthly) had no discernible effect on me at all as far as keeping fit. Only when I resumed eating healthy and exercising did I notice any difference. I've been off T for almost a year now and as far as feminizing I don't notice any difference in my body.

[ambiguous (imported)]

I do think keeping active plays dividends if you are considering cutting back your testosterone intake and can echo Seanthomas's findings.

I was only off testosterone for 7 or 8 months but could manage 5 mile runs no probs.

However many people report mental health issues depression moodiness and lack of motivation and everyone is different.

I was lucky enough not to suffer in this way but had to work on staying focused on particular tasks.

[Cseriess (imported)]

Thanks for the reply. The side effects of taking androcur stopped me keeping up my regular exercise, gained 5 lbs probably, and not been able to shed it permanently again.

[justine77 (imported)]

I was able to train reasonably well during the period when I didn't take any kind of HRT (for 18 months after I was castrated) but for me it was more mental thing than a purely physical thing. I wanted to keep up with various sports but it seemed more of an effort to do it. Once on TRT and later Estrogen I had no problems. I had slight chest and ass development but hardly put on any weight.

Justine x

[anorchid (imported)]

Thanks everyone!

That makes sense, recently I got a new and amazing doctor, who works primarily with the trans community.

He pretty much said the same thing - "calories in/out are king", but mentioned high sex hormones make it easier to stay motivated, and reminded me "either E or T by the way, just throwin' that out there."

I don't blame him for thinking I'm trans, I just laughed and admitted the truth - yeah, I wasn't so sure myself

So now I find myself at a bit of a crossroads, I find the idea of "very masculine" or "very feminine" not... ideal. I like the middle ground.

We'll see though, followup with him soon after the bloodwork comes back and we're going to work on a comprehensive weight loss plan then

[Begoneboy (imported)]

Fat loss or fat gain/ weight loss or weight gain, its all about the same thing. And those two items (loss or gain) are always directly a result of intake / output. That's not to say where it will end up on the body but exercise can have a lot to do with where it actually ends up. Hormones have a lot to do where where it may rest on the body as well. I can assure you that it makes no difference whether one takes "T" or "E" or neither. If you intake more fuel than you output you WILL gain weight/fat or whatever term you wish to call it.

I've been eating estrogen for a lot of years now and it has absolutely directed where the fat tends to accumulate on my body. But it has been 100% controlled of how much by the amount of fuel/energy/calories/carbohydrates or whatever you wish to choose is balanced in the body. If we put fuel in and don't take it out it accumulates. And our hormones tell it where to accumulate. We can exercise and convert soft fat to hard muscle which isn't a bad thing. But the bottom line is fuel input/output.