Fighting, brawling, temper, and testosterone.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I m surprised to see so few mentions of fighting and anger related to testosterone on here.

You d think those would be a major factor for some men thinking of or dealing with castration and varying levels of testosterone in their lives.

Just last night, after too long of a work day, I almost started brawling. A guy I ve never seen before kept intentionally pissing me off, over and over. I warned him off a few times. But he d try another tactic, time after time. My balls are partly broken and not pumping out my full testosterone levels. But I still got so angry that I wanted to beat his face in.

My friends know quiet is very bad when I m pissed. I was sizing him up and doing all the calculus on how it would play out if I started punching him. How tough is he ? Who s with me ? Who s with him ? Can I take him ? Will he fight clean or dirty ? Who else in here might jump in ? Who will the cops blame and how long will they take to get here ? Why is he picking this fight ? Who is he trying to impress ? How hard should I hit him ?

My friends read my mind and my pissed off silence and right away they said " NO FIGHTING ! Don t start fighting that guy. Keep your shirt on. No fighting ! "

I was just trying to figure out how to get my layers of winter shirts off me before starting the fight and what to say to get him to throw the first punch. So I could claim self defense and have witnesses to back it up with the cops. But stripping my winter layers of multiple shirts off first would make the witnesses think I m the aggressor who started it. For you non brawlers out there, you always want to fight bare chested so no one can pull your shirt over your eyes to blind you, or pull shirts over your arms and fists like a straight jacket and then beat you senseless as they keep you all tangled up in your own shirts. But how to get those damn layers of winter shirts off in public first to be ready to fight was stopping me. What excuse could I used to get shirtless ?

That plus, what did he know that made him so eager to pick a fight with me and think he d win ?

I told my friends he s been pissing me off all night and asking for a fight. My friends said yes, we saw it all. But he s crazy. He might have a gun or knife picking a fight with a guy like me. I still wanted to hit him so bad ! Even on partial testosterone, I wanted to beat him so much and thouroughly enjoy punching him. The temptation was so great ! But the cops would blame me if I stripped down first or threw the first punch.

My friends hustled me away to get farther away from that guy and no fight happened. But I wanted to beat his ass senseless. I kept watching him and thinking how much I d enjoy whaling on him with pleasure. I stayed pissed all night.

I can t be the only man who feels these aggressive urges and responses. I m wondering what would have happened last night if I was getting my full testosterone output from my balls ?

How much of a difference do you eunuchs who are not on any T or on lower T doses feel in your fighting urges and responses ? No one ever talks about fighting on here.

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

I can identify with your posting here cutnbulls2ox, I have had many similar experiences and the same thoughts. Intact males of almost all species are the aggressive ones, it is amazing how much changes in any castrated male of any species, look at the difference between intact cattle (bulls versus steers), dogs, sheep, you name it, and clearly there is that difference in humans as well, but it is amazingly a very taboo subject in today's society.

[stephaniesteve1 (imported)]

The world has too many sets of balls.It would be a calmer and more friendly place if we could reduce the number of sets of balls.Balls ought to be an optional extra not attached to every burk .

[kristoff]

I very rarely get any confrontation from others. The last time I remember was quite a few years ago when I was a security courier - I transported securities. Someone was challenging me in front of the building I was heading to. I didn't try to reason with him or de-escalate. I simply took out a taser gun and tazed him. Security came out and detained him for the police. Never heard much about it - had to make a statement, show them the taser, and went back to work. I don't believe in fair fights, only fights to win.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I don t blame balls or testosterone for fights. A lot of people do need a good beating.

Its how the laws are that prevent us from beating the hell out of people who deserve it.

My post is more asking if low or no testosterone actually changes these feelings or if our grown brains are already so affected by years of testosterone that being on low or no T still leaves men and eunuchs with the same tempers and aggression they had with their previous full testosterone levels ?

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

Kristoff,

I agree with you on winning ! That s why in spite of my temper, I calculate how any fight will play out and the odds of winning and at what risks and costs. The frustrations of walking away from fights you know you can t win is intense.

But even the fights you can win come with costs and risks that can go bad in a hurry and spiral out of control fast and unpredictably.

[Paolo]

I just usually waited, sometimes followed them home, and did something like cut their brake lines or set their garages on fire.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I just usually waited, sometimes followed them home, and did something like cut their brake lines or set their garages on fire.

Lol, you must have given your parole officer lots of headaches with that much testosterone in you causing those fun times.

[Begoneboy (imported)]

I don t blame balls or testosterone for fights. A lot of people do need a good beating.

Its how the laws are that prevent us from beating the hell out of people who deserve it.

My post is more asking if low or no testosterone actually changes these feelings or if our grown brains are already so affected by years of testosterone that being on low or no T still leaves men and eunuchs with the same tempers and aggression they had with their previous full testosterone levels ?

cutnbulls2ox: Now that's as good of a question as I've heard and is so pertinent to the topic. Not that I have many memories of pre-castration any more, however you're question brings to mind how very true it is that some just need a good whooping to put their brain in order.

Recalling a time at about the age of 15 or 16 there was indeed a guy about 20 that seemed to always cross paths in a bad way. So one evening as I went to a temporary job loading hundred pound sacks at a seed mill this guy was waiting in the parking lot. Now for somebody to be waiting in a parking lot where he has no business I of course thought about the moment that would surely follow. At such a young age I seriously doubt that high levels of "T" played much part in what followed. But those levels of "T" produced in a teen's body can of course be so raging as they are in the process of changing the body. However what followed did not come about by calculated thinking. As the guy approached with clinched fists at his side sudden rage filled me and my body simply leapt up and forward kicking the guy in the crotch so hard that he bent over falling to his knees where he was then at the right level for my now balled up fists to go to work. I don't think to this day that any of this was calculated in the slightest way on my part. Reflecting back after your post now begs the question you asked. Is "T" the controlling chemical of such aggressive and raging behavior or is it something else that instinctively kicks in some self defense mechanism? Once that guy was no longer a threat I simply walked into the mill and received my assignment for the shift which got cut short when the Sheriff arrived to haul me off for aggravated assault. Never got booked as he took me straight to the ER where the guy went and the truth came out of who started it all. In the ER I was calm and polite in every response while the sap was still raging in fury but couldn't stand up on his own. The foreman at the mill gave me a little scolding for being taken from work by the deputy, then grinned real big and told me to just get back to work. I know without doubt that those reactions were not part of my personality nor under any of my control at the time. It may be the maturing process or the castration years later but I have never felt those fits of rage since. It may well be that elimination of "T" changed things and may even be the introduction of "E" created a softer personality. I don't know but am thankful that I can control my anger. Which indeed leads to the next related question for the forum. Does the introduction of "E" after eliminating most of the "T" change our emotions of rage and anger. I absolutely can attest that it changes our sexual feeling and other softer emotions.

[Tclosetgirl (imported)]

I've been teaching Martial Arts for almost 15 years. Castration has changed nothing for me. I stand for my principle and my honor, nothing more. Fighting is stupid, even if you win, you lose (and it may take a few years to realize it).

Your issue was easy "Walk away" - end of story.

“Never put passion in front of principle, even if you win, you’ll lose” - Mr Miyagi