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Brycenosak (imported)
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Tis true cutnbulls2ox. When I know that it very likely that I am the only eunuch in the room and its very likely that I am the only person who knows it. I have good friends that I will probably never tell and its unlikely the subject would ever come up. There is perceived knowledge, what people think they know. My Dad sees a eunuch as a castrated human male. My Mum, when asked sees a eunuch as the classic, tall, well built, long haired palace guard. I reminded her about pre puberty castration creates the stature etc.She sees me as her son, who has no testicles. I remember my friend casually made reference to my my being nutless in conversation. My other friend, who wasnt privy to my status, giggled like a little girl, then fell silent. The subject has never come up again with him. Yet I have no problem with Steve mentioning it. He picked me up from the surgery, I remarked, ' good weight loss diet dude, came out of hospital 'two stone lighter'. it is the old labels topic.
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cutnbulls2ox (imported)
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Brycenosak (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:42 pm Tis true cutnbulls2ox. When I know that it very likely that I am the only eunuch in the room and its very likely that I am the only person who knows it. I have good friends that I will probably never tell and its unlikely the subject would ever come up. There is perceived knowledge, what people think they know. My Dad sees a eunuch as a castrated human male. My Mum, when asked sees a eunuch as the classic, tall, well built, long haired palace guard. I reminded her about pre puberty castration creates the stature etc.She sees me as her son, who has no testicles. I remember my friend casually made reference to my my being nutless in conversation. My other friend, who wasnt privy to my status, giggled like a little girl, then fell silent. The subject has never come up again with him. Yet I have no problem with Steve mentioning it. He picked me up from the surgery, I remarked, ' good weight loss diet dude, came out of hospital 'two stone lighter'. it is the old labels topic.
I read somewhere that your country, has among the highest percentage of men getting vasectomies in the world. That s a lot of men voluntarily getting part of the way to being castrated since the long term affects of vasectomy in a percentage of men does lead to malfunctioning and non functioning testicles. I ve read figures of up to 5 or more percent of all men getting vasectomies having major testicle problems. That s one in every 20 men with vasectomies. So, I m betting, in your country, any room full of men over the age of 30 is likely to have one gelded man in every 20 men, and more than that among older men.
That man giggling and then silent about you being nutless probably indicates a man who is sexually excited by you being a eunuch and so he s embarrassed to say what he is thinking.
I ve gotta say, I really admire your attitude and how well you ve handled your own castration so well. You popping a huge and pre cum drooling erection as they wheeled you into surgery to castrate you is awesome and handling your unwanted and medically required castration like a real champ ! You must have impressed and confused the hell out of the whole surgical team ! They must have been very surprised and envious of any man who could even accomplish having a major erection as he is taken to be deballed. Seriously, how many men could be that virile as they get neutered ? Lol. Every male has to admire and envy you on that wild ability ,!,
Its great to see such a horny and sex loving masculine man that your posts reveal you to be, handling castration like you have done. I m betting the man who giggled like a girl and was silent was surprised that an extra horny and masculine man like you was actually a gelded eunuch. He probably got off on that a lot and had so many things flashing through his brain in processing and imagining you nutless that he was too busy getting off on you being a steer to think of anything to say !
Man, that big throbbing erection you sported as you were wheeled into surgery, half drugged up, is so awesome. That would really impress and spring a hard on in many men and get lots of women excited too.
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Brycenosak (imported)
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You are right, lots of vasectomies are done here. We are backward in addressing what to do if something goes wrong. I did alot of research on post vasectomy pain disorders. One of my friends even went to john hopkins hosp in the us to have nerve albation surgery to save his testicle. Our doctors are pretty much ' walk it off, take an asprin, its in your head, its spinal, itl come right?' As I am fairly stubborn, I wouldnt accept it could take a year for a vasectomy to settle. I suspect there are men out there living with significant pain and nothing can or will be done about it. And its not talked about! In 4 years I endured various medication trials and a vasectomy revisal, vasal ties removed and vas cauterised, spinal nerve block, bilateral epididymectomy (pure evil), ketamine infusion,laproscopic denervation and finally castration. As I am deemed 'one in a thousand' the govt accident compensation corp picks up the funding. the claim still exists. Yeah man, the pre op erection was a surreal and unexpected experience for all involved. Like the last chance!! I really appreciate having articulate and intelligent people to share my experience with. You can be assured it is done with honesty and integrity Cheers! B
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Wow! Once again you hit it out of the park. Never give that power away. It WILL be abused which will be far more costly than one should ever want to endure.
The whole concept of coming out seems odd to me. I personally just let life happen after becoming nullo. I am accepted for who I am as most folks never knew who I was.
The whole concept of coming out seems odd to me. I personally just let life happen after becoming nullo. I am accepted for who I am as most folks never knew who I was.
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When I had mine removed 13 years ago, I had nothing but support from family and friends including two 16 year olds. The only difficulties I had were with my son and one relative. My son didn't understand why, but accepted it. A family member(married in) did not question the removal after i explained the possibility of cancer in my nuts, he didn't say much more. His only comment was "Even if I had cancer in my testicles, I would not want them removed". Of course, I would rather lose them than my life to cancer.
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Wouldn't take take me a half of a second to decide to loose my nuts if there was a risk of cancer, but I would dwell of it some to look good for the doctor.
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cutnbulls2ox (imported)
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gandalf (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:59 am When I had mine removed 13 years ago, I had nothing but support from family and friends including two 16 year olds. The only difficulties I had were with my son and one relative. My son didn't understand why, but accepted it. A family member(married in) did not question the removal after i explained the possibility of cancer in my nuts, he didn't say much more. His only comment was "Even if I had cancer in my testicles, I would not want them removed". Of course, I would rather lose them than my life to cancer.
Sounds like the people who say they d rather be dead than to lose an arm or leg. Once it happens, they beg to live and adjust to it far better than they ever thought they would.
Its really tough to anticipate how any one person will handle something way out of the ordinary. You have nothing similar to see them react to as a guide to how they will handle your coming out.
I ve known people who will pretend to accept gay men to that man s face, and pretend to be fully accepting of gays, who will say the worst things about gays when only people they think are straight are there to hear it. Those people, males and females, usually don t understand being a butch masculine gay man, and they think all masculine men must be straight. That s when you hear what they actually think and feel about homosexuality, when they think you are straight.
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GruntFLA (imported)
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BINGO cutnbulls2ox. I'm very masculine and people that don't know me assume I'm straight, so I have plenty of experience with what you describe.
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cutnbulls2ox (imported)
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GruntFLA (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:52 am BINGO cutnbulls2ox. I'm very masculine and people that don't know me assume I'm straight, so I have plenty of experience with what you describe.
Yes, and most rural people think gays only live far away in big cities. They don t think any of " their " local men can ever be gay unless they are flamboyantly feminine. So, in both big cities and in rural places, extra masculine gay men hear what people really think of gay and trans people as one of the straight people. Confronting or arguing or fighting with these people isn t going to change their minds or force them to accept gay or trans people. They d just add me and anyone else who shames or argues with them to their hate list. You can t force people to change to suit your desires. They have to want to change or they won t change.
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cutnbulls2ox (imported)
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People can really surprise you unexpectantly.
One of my best buddies that I worked with every day for years really surprised me. He was a U.S.Marine Corps jag officer and a great friend. But when I asked him about prosecuting Marines merely for being gay, he showed me a side of him that shocked me. This was back when don t ask, don t tell was in effect for all branches of the U.S. military. He said he had no problem with men being gay. But, he said lying on your enlisting documents was unforgivable and needs to be prosecuted and the Marine should be court marshaled and then dishonorably discharged for lying on his enlistment documents.
I was floored that my close buddy felt this way ! He admitted it made no difference in a Marine s ability to do his job or perform in battle. He claimed he had nothing against gay men serving in the military except that they lied when directly asked in recruiting and enlistment documents if they were gay or not ? I asked if he d prosecute me if I was gay ? He said absolutely, it would be his duty to prosecute and dishonorably discharge me if I had lied. He was dead serious. He couldn t be persuaded that any gay man had no choice but to lie to even get into the military under those senseless rules. He wouldn t let go of lying as his excuse to carry out a horrible and senseless policy. He added that if a man was gay, not acting on it would leave no evidence to court marshal him with. But he admitted that still left the lie unaddressed that he used as his sole reasoning, along with following his orders and enforcing all of the millitary rules he swore to uphold, to prosecute Marines in his own mind. He ducked that by saying unless the Marine, himself,admitted to being gay, no evidence would exist to prosecute him if he was gay but never acted on it.
I d never have expected he would even think this way. Most Marines knew and expected to have lots of gay men in the military and ignored it unless a man was causing tons of problems flagrantly about being gay. Lesbian women in the military were far more tolerated than gay men were. Gay men were far more likely to be prosecuted and dishonorably discharged for being gay than females who were gay. Totally unfair, but that is how it was.
He said almost all the Marines being prosecuted were turned in by their gay lovers as revenge after fights or break ups. So much for trusting lovers huh ?
One of my best buddies that I worked with every day for years really surprised me. He was a U.S.Marine Corps jag officer and a great friend. But when I asked him about prosecuting Marines merely for being gay, he showed me a side of him that shocked me. This was back when don t ask, don t tell was in effect for all branches of the U.S. military. He said he had no problem with men being gay. But, he said lying on your enlisting documents was unforgivable and needs to be prosecuted and the Marine should be court marshaled and then dishonorably discharged for lying on his enlistment documents.
I was floored that my close buddy felt this way ! He admitted it made no difference in a Marine s ability to do his job or perform in battle. He claimed he had nothing against gay men serving in the military except that they lied when directly asked in recruiting and enlistment documents if they were gay or not ? I asked if he d prosecute me if I was gay ? He said absolutely, it would be his duty to prosecute and dishonorably discharge me if I had lied. He was dead serious. He couldn t be persuaded that any gay man had no choice but to lie to even get into the military under those senseless rules. He wouldn t let go of lying as his excuse to carry out a horrible and senseless policy. He added that if a man was gay, not acting on it would leave no evidence to court marshal him with. But he admitted that still left the lie unaddressed that he used as his sole reasoning, along with following his orders and enforcing all of the millitary rules he swore to uphold, to prosecute Marines in his own mind. He ducked that by saying unless the Marine, himself,admitted to being gay, no evidence would exist to prosecute him if he was gay but never acted on it.
I d never have expected he would even think this way. Most Marines knew and expected to have lots of gay men in the military and ignored it unless a man was causing tons of problems flagrantly about being gay. Lesbian women in the military were far more tolerated than gay men were. Gay men were far more likely to be prosecuted and dishonorably discharged for being gay than females who were gay. Totally unfair, but that is how it was.
He said almost all the Marines being prosecuted were turned in by their gay lovers as revenge after fights or break ups. So much for trusting lovers huh ?