Just some random thoughts about writing for the EA.

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A very kind reader wrote to say that he enjoyed my stories for the dual motives behind nullification. This got me thinking that it's more than just two incentives. I think that for both fathers and sons the desires for nullification are multiple, competing and constantly shifting. That's why the attraction for castration is impossible to ever fully understand. I've been writing about it for years and am no closer to understanding it. 🆘 🤷

The reader also said that boys are more beautiful nullified. That's another intriguing thought. When I was a boy myself I often worried about how my genitals measured up compared to other boys my age. Was I too small, too big, or in some other way atypical? I was also plagued with uncontrollable erections at inappropriate times. For those reasons, as well as the fear of being hit in the balls, nullification seemed sort of attractive. But would being smooth have made me more beautiful? I don't know. I hoped nullification would make me exotic and mysterious in an antihero sort of way. But I was afraid going smooth would've made me the object of ridicule, pity and morbid curiosity. ❓

Had I thought that an empty crotch would improved my appearance and would've been met with acceptance my "need" for castration would've been that much stronger. Thank goodness it never went beyond fantasy. 😄
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I have several thoughts on the topic of writing for the EA, but not now.

It's been one of those days! :(
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has anyone ever done a plain Inguinal orchiectomy urological visit? whether for Orchitis or Cancer or wounds received?
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Eunuchorn (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:18 pm has anyone ever done a plain Inguinal orchiectomy urological visit? whether for Orchitis or Cancer or wounds received?

It's not a story exactly, but you can read my account here: http://forums.eunuch.org/showthread.php ... eally-HURT!

Maybe I could spruce this up, add a couple of characters, set it during an earthquake, with terrorists in wheelchairs. Pulitzer prize nomination.
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More random thoughts. There are some very nice stories posted on EA that are set in a near (or distant) future where tween castration is commonplace. I've enjoyed reading these stories but they always leave me wondering; how in the story's "universe" did society get from "here" to "there." In other words how would society transition from abhorring castration to accepting it? Any ideas?
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In a world where population is controled or society is threatened with starvation and chaos, how do you control reproduction? But perhaps more importantly, who do you steralize? The poor? But that is a recipe for rebellion. Perhaps adults would decide that male children are the easiest to steralize and easiest to convince.
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Atreyu69 (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:46 pm More random thoughts. There are some very nice stories posted on EA that are set in a near (or distant) future where tween castration is commonplace. I've enjoyed reading these stories but they always leave me wondering; how in the story's "universe" did society get from "here" to "there." In other words how would society transition from abhorring castration to accepting it? Any ideas?

For a LONG and somewhat involved answer to Atreyu’s question, we can start with all of the Alternative Histories that have been published in both short story and novel form. Each begins with some turning point in history and speculates about what the present would be like if the event had turned out differently. For example: What would the modern world be like if the Third Reich had prevailed? What would North America be like today if the Confederate States had won the Civil War and slavery was still prevalent? What would the world be like if the Persians had won the Battle of Salamis in 480 BCE?

In the Persian case, especially, we could have the basis for an EA story (or a full novel) of a world where Persian culture and administrative practices spread across Europe. We know, for example, of three cases where rebellions in Greek cities controlled by the Persian Empire were put down with the execution of the adult males and the castration of all the boys, sending the women into slavery–exterminating the rebels. (The Chinese did this as well, at least from the extermination of Miao rebels during the 14th century in the Ming Dynasty through the defeat of Uighur rebels in the 1870s--executing the adult males and castrating all boys.) We know that Persian taxation of the provinces (satrapies) included castrated boys to be sent to the capital. The Babylon Satrapy was responsible for sending 500 castrated boys and 1000 talents of gold per year. Other satrapies sent fewer castrated boys, but several had regular levies. The eunuchs were used in palace administration and the most talented were sent out to administer far-flung provinces other than the one from which they originated.

Some of the literary techniques of such alternative histories might well be central to science fiction futures. The early 21st century has seen a strong (and widespread) rise of female power. The #Metoo movement is only a piece of it. Male power and patriarchy over the past several millennia has been based on greater male physical strength and male testosterone-fueled aggressive behavior. The strength formerly required for physical labor is being replaced by machines and automation. Most of it is now replaceable. The aggressiveness has fueled wars at the large scale and violent crime at the small scale. Is all that testosterone necessary in the modern world?

We also know from 8000 years’ experience with animal domestication that only a few fertile males are needed. Castration was invented partly to selectively breed desired characteristics into the herd. It’s simple and effective and modern dairy cattle and swine production depends on artificial insemination from superior male breeding stock. (Considering some of the dog breeds, we know that some serious mistakes can be made.)

In humans, we know from recent genomic studies that at least 60% of intelligence is genetic. More recent research is demonstrating that even personality has a very high genetic component. The forthcoming book Blueprint: How DNA Makes Us Who We Are by Robert Plomin will detail some of this recent research.

We also know from lots of research that for many (most?) traits there is greater variability in males than in females—even when the averages are the same. For example, studies of the results of hundreds of thousands of IQ tests demonstrate that the average IQ of males and females is nearly identical (much less than one-point difference). The bell-shaped distribution curves show females clustering around the average and males spread out over a wide range with more at both the high and the low ends of the curve. This appears true for most traits measured, regardless of whether or not the average is the same. For example, males, on average, are taller than females, but females cluster around their average height and males spread out over their range.

This should make it “easier” for a female-centered society to select the appropriate males for reproduction. Non-breeding males could simply be sterilized (vasectomies work), but the aggressiveness would continue. Neutering, on the model of animal domestication might be superior. At what age? Convincing 18 year-olds that they should be castrated would likely lead to rebellion. Two would be too young to make intelligent decisions about personality and intelligence. Pick an age for your hypothetical society....

When can we expect to see your novel?
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A kid's full package should be somehow valuable as a single foreskin, very precious for cosmetic factory and for medicine. If a boy's dick/balls could be useful for someone with money... I'm sure many doctors would step forward for tell us how castration is good for young boy, in the same way they now tell us about how many be benefits circumcision brings
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It makes a lot of sense for the males to act as a reserve and repository for greater genetic variation than females in humans. In the event of depopulation from disease or dramatic environmental or other changes, the males with advantageous genetic features that help in survival would survive more than average humans. Those males could then quickly impregnate almost limitless numbers of women to pass on advantageous genetics to speed up evolution and changes in humans to better adapt and survive any dramatic changes or threats.

Men can quickly reproduce with countless women. But women are limited to far fewer offspring over a much longer period of time.
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CircItaly (imported) wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:04 pm A kid's full package should be somehow valuable as a single foreskin, very precious for cosmetic factory and for medicine. If a boy's dick/balls could be useful for someone with money... I'm sure many doctors would step forward for tell us how castration is good for young boy, in the same way they now tell us about how many be benefits circumcision brings

A valuable commodity that made drs or cutters or donors lots of money would make castration quickly popular and accepted. Just look at that recent TV program about cheapskate people where a man claimed he would donate one testicle to be cut off and get paid $30,000 for one testicle to be used in scientific research. His story turned out to be false.

But his story got lots of men eagerly offering up their own testicles for castration if they could be paid anywhere near $30,000 per ball for doing it. Men posted on the internet searching for any buyers offering that much money for both their balls, especially men done having all the kids they wanted and not needing their sperm any more.
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