The Warden's Daughter -- Help!

[DarkkOrbit (imported)]

Have you ever read the story, 'The Warden's Daughter'? If not, I urge you to run -- not walk -- and read it now. It's one of the best pieces of erotic literature I've ever found.

The story goes like this: A man is an inmate in a foreign prison. The prison warden's daughter is a pretty young woman who loves to torture men's genitals. She decides she likes one of her victims, and she offers him a deal: She will arrange for his release if he agrees to be castrated and become her toilet slave.

Just thinking about it gives me a headache.

There are three chapters to the story. The author calls himself 'Ivan Jeffords' and gives an e-mail address.

I have been an editor for more than 15 years, and I can tell you that if Mr. Jeffords is not a professional writer, he damn well should be.

Evidently, he didn't get the feedback he was looking for, because the fourth -- and presumably, final -- chapter in the story was never posted.

I would love to talk to this guy. I have tried to e-mail him, but the address given is no longer active. I tried sending him a private message through the EA, but I don't think he ever got it. It's like he dropped off the face of the Earth.

If anyone has any details about this story or can provide any details about its author, I would be eternally grateful for any information you can provide.

Thank you in advance,

j.

[Paolo]

Jack,

This thread is not locked.

[Unregistered (imported)]

i completely agree, that stories a fave and unfortunately i haven't come across a writer yet who i think could do the story enough justice to finish it...

[DarkkOrbit (imported)]

I suppose I could finish the damn thing if I had to, but I don't want to! I want the thrill of discovering where the original author takes his characters.

For now I'm just going to continue to hope that he resurfaces eventually.

I've even constructed a series of wicked erotic wallpapers based on the female protagonist, Claudia. (Even her goddamn name is a creative inspiration.) I'll be posting them on my Web site shortly (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheTormentress). I'll try and attach a sample, but it won't look too great because I'll have to cut the size and resolution to make it fit within the board's size limitations.

This is driving me insane!

[ivanjeffords (imported)]

Dear Jackh,

No, I haven't fallen off the face of the earth. Thanks for your great feedback about The Warden's Daughter. Yes, I am a professional writer, but this is the only erotic fiction I have ever written, except short pieces for myself.

I deeply apologize to you and all UA readers for not finishing the story. I really felt badly about this. But, believe me, it was not because I don't care about you, or because I didn't get great feedback (I did!). Writing that story really did something negative to me, emotionally, and I decided not to finish it for that reason . . . or at least not to finish it then. After the last installment (Part 3) I felt like I'd given too much of myself, I was totally drained. I also felt like I should have written the damn thing from Claudia's point of view, instead of the poor bastard who was suffering so much at her (soft young) hands.

Honestly, the part that troubles me most is the castration that I more or less promised readers. I just don't want my main man to be castrated. To have his balls tortured beyond his limits, yes, but the whole nine yards--no! Then he's something else, not a man anymore. Unless he's still got at least one of his balls, he's no interest to Claudia, either. He would just be a "thing" to her, a mass of flesh. Her turn on is getting men hard and then doing nasty stuff to their cocks and balls. No balls, no hardon, no turnon for Claudia.

So, I feel like I painted myself into a corner with this story. I only posted it on the UA because that was the only place I could find where people would be interested in this kind of thing. But most UA readers (maybe all?) want to see the guy lose his nuts, or they are not satisfied.

This is my delimma.

Suggestions?

Ivan Jeffords

[ivanjeffords (imported)]

Woops--I meant EA readers, not UA readers. See how much that damn Claudia messes up my head!

Ivan

[Karisma (imported)]

Oh. So this is what happend. I wish I had searched the forums earlier. I remember eagerly awaiting to continue the story. When I first got into reading it(last year) I was stuck. Probably the most impacting peice of litterature of this type i'v ever read. The one that I can never forget.

I remember I signed up for the newsletter type thing too -- well atleast I tried. And then I waited, and waited for along time. I still hadn't given up hope and I kept returning here to see if the author had finished yet. And this I did until today. Guess I can give up hoping now... well.. the story can continue in my mind. Perhaps it was for the best. This way there is no _"real"_ officiall ending and it can go however one feels it should go in the moment.

Thanks for the ride ivanjeffords!.

I guess that's what I wanted to say.

And I hope your head is ok now!.

[Nathan (imported)]

With no animositiy toward the author, or his well written story, I'm confused. Ivan Jeffords has written requesting a "suggestion" and then states he hasn't finished the series because he doesnt want to unman the victim. I'm confused as to the delima, and pehaps Paolo or one of the boards moderators can clarify things. But if I'm not mistaken, something has to get cut off to meet the criteria for posting a story in the first place. For an author to state he has no intention of doing so, but posting a story anyway, seems to be in direct violation to the board rules as I understand them.

If there is no snipping, then the piece, as well written as it is, is posted in the wrong place and to the wrong forum. There are other bulletine boards for erotic tales that do not involve castration themes. I know I have written other stories, with other themes, but they aren't posted to the EA. But for my EA stories, I've always complied with the "rules" as they are stated, and something has gotton cut off in every single one of them, and more often than not, more than once and to more than one character.

I guess we need a clarification, or the story needs an appropriate "ending."

Just my comments to protect the board.

-Nathan

[Kronos (imported)]

Hi. Long time lurker here. Not to say that you're wrong, Nathan, but isn't it enough that the theme of a story centers around castration? Whether or not someone loses something seems irrelevant to me, so long as the possibility exists.

My personal view is that I, and many others I think, have no desire to actually be castrated. That in and of itself doesn't stimulate me. I am more interested in the emotions involved when the possibility of being nutted arises. Perhaps it's more of a power issue than anything else. Do I like the idea of a woman wielding so much power over me that she could de-man me at any time she wished? I'm getting hard right now thinking about it. Do I want her to actually do it? Hell no. See, he's shrinking again.

The bottom line for me is that this story does indeed have a castration theme, and the fact that it doesn't actually happen doesn't nullify that (no pun intended).

Judges ruling?

[surf_toad (imported)]

i agree with Kronos, i think that the writer gets an emotional attachment with his charactors and can easily get painted into a corner. i have written several stories and the hero is always freed from the bondages of his manhood, but then again i have always desired to be an eunuch so that is where i want my charactor to go. if you are in love with the scene, you want to get as close to the fire as possible without actually getting burned, then you can go back. but once the axe falls, it is over for the ones that live for the scene and what is left after that. two words. "the end"

If that is your goal that is fine. i got stuck on Quiet boys 2 because my eunuch charactor has nothing more to loose, but i still want to give him a life after that is full and satisfying. i just have a hard time with the vission, as i am not there.