Why do eunuchs gain fat and how to maintain muscle mass?

[derryderry (imported)]

I really wonder why eunuchs gain fat after they are castrated?

Option 1) Castration increase your appetite?

Option 2) Castration decreases your energy, so you are less active and burn less calories

Option 3) Castration decreases your muscle mass and your metabolism slows down.

Option 4) Anything else?

So if you burn 2000 calories daily and eat 2000 calories, there is no way you can gain fat, is there? So gaining fat has to do with one or some of 3 options above. Perhaps your metabolism slows down, you become less active and so you gain weight.

However i think, its possible to stop this from happening by watching your diet and becoming more active.

And is it possible to keep muscle mass? Any experiences?

I believe that a 3 set and 5 rep weight training protocol, done with heavy weights twice a week coupled with bodyweight (kg) X 2 grs. of protein per day will prevent muscle loss, or not?

Please share information. Thanks.

[TopManFL (imported)]

Hey,

Testosterone is a powerful hormone that allows for muscle gain and keeps fat distributed in a "male pattern". It also increases metabolism, causes muscle growth at puberty and other secondary sexual characteristics.

So, the simple answer to your question is: "because of the lack of testosterone".

This link is on reddit and has been posted here before. It's a bone chilling medical case of a 19 year old minor who was castrated at his parents request in 1961 at UCLA medical center. Physically castrated to cure his homosexual ideation and activities. Since 21 was the age of majority at the time, his parents got the final say.

Here is the link (my virus checker says it's clean): https://www.reddit.com/r/castration/com ... s_in_1961/

Be sure to read the text that's included with the pictures. These are actual doctor's notes regarding the effects of the surgery. Since they are part of the image I can't copy and paste them.

Also here is the text from the reddit poster:

There is a little known history in America of castrating homosexuals, starting around the turn of the century. Even well into the 1960s, parents would commonly bring their son to a psychiatrist if they showed signs of being effeminate or if caught in a homosexual relationship or activity. Thousands of young men like this were involuntarily castrated, as homosexuality was still designated a mental illness, and parents put their sons under enormous pressure to accept castration surgery. If a homosexual fought the decision to have castration performed on him, he would typically be involuntarily committed to a mental institution, where the laws allowed involuntary asexualization. While in the mental institution, many were abused and heavily drugged, and discharged only after their surgery. The world has come a long way from a time when homosexuals were castrated against their will, to an era where many men are choosing to get themselves castrated voluntarily.

[Dekeldoh (imported)]

Even in this century, and in the US, many mental institutions are not fun. I was committed to one in a southern state when I was 12; that would've been around 2008. They gave me a bunch of sleeping pills in the afternoon and then punished me for missing activities. They also had a practice of forcibly stripping young patients (both male and female) and leaving them in an isolated room with the door wide open. Being stripped to my underwear, crying, and have a large man grip my underwear and threaten to take it off as well if I don't stop crying: that is just one of many things wrong with my childhood. Ironically, the resulting drug anxiety may be the biggest reason why I'm unlikely to ever consider going on T.

I think it's very important to deviate from the term "mental illness" entirely. In the 1960s it was homosexuality, and more recently it was "ADHD" or "Asperger's syndrome." That kind of thing needs to stop. Healthy young children do not need to be put on psychiatric medications with massive side effects that often make them gain or lose 20 pounds in a month.

Anyway, on to the topic at hand:

I really wonder why eunuchs gain fat after they are castrated?

Option 1) Castration increase your appetite?

Option 2) Castration decreases your energy, so you are less active and burn less calories

Option 3) Castration decreases your muscle mass and your metabolism slows down.

Option 4) Anything else?

So if you burn 2000 calories daily and eat 2000 calories, there is no way you can gain fat, is there? So gaining fat has to do with one or some of 3 options above. Perhaps your metabolism slows down, you become less active and so you gain weight.

However i think, its possible to stop this from happening by watching your diet and becoming more active.

And is it possible to keep muscle mass? Any experiences?

I believe that a 3 set and 5 rep weight training protocol, done with heavy weights twice a week coupled with bodyweight (kg) X 2 grs. of protein per day will prevent muscle loss, or not?

Please share information. Thanks.

Actually, point 1 and 2 can have nothing to do with weight gain after castration. I have been more active and eaten less, but I still gained 5-10 pounds. I am a vegan who eats only whole, unprocessed plant foods, and I was never able to rise above the very bottom of the "normal" BMI range even if I inhaled thousands of calories' worth of fat-filled nuts every day. But castration seems to have inexplicably added 5-10 pounds to me. Obviously not much of a problem since I was bordering on being underweight, but it's there.

Assuming castration only causes weight gain because it leads to increased appetite and less exercise would be very misguided reasoning indeed, I would say. Eunuchs can still build muscle and lose weight, but the payoff from the same input will be much less than with T. It's an uphill battle.

[sparkey49 (imported)]

I work very strenuously and eat healthy went from 170 pounds to 200 pounds and was definitely fat redistribution of fat over 2.5 years no T since on T for 2.5 years muscled back up and fluctuate in the 170s now.