Wednesday's news from "The Telegraph" (London):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... n-ban.html
Looks like things are changing? Given the experienced surgeons, low prices.... What does this mean for non-Thai nationals also wanting the services? I rather suspect that Thai surgeons treasure their fees like many others....
Anyone know any more about this development?
Thai surgeons reject cosmetic castration ban
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Thailand's plastic surgery clinics have vowed to defy a recent government ban on performing castrations, saying they will continue to offer sex change operations in the country famous for its "ladyboys".
Earlier this month, the Thai health minister, Chaiya Sasomsab, issued a directive banning the operation after rights groups complained about the botched castration of an under-age boy in the northern city of Chiang-Mai.
But in direct defiance of the ban, the chief surgeon at the Pratunum Clinic - one of Thailand's top transgender clinics in Bangkok - has called on anyone wanting a castration to come to his clinic.
"I want them to be happy with what they want to be, and will remove their unwanted organs," Dr Thep Wetwisit said.
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He also criticised the ban as ridiculous and dangerous.
"They have banned castrations but not sex change operations. But to do a sex change operation you have to remove the testes," he told The Telegraph.
He said many of the clinics in Bangkok would continue to provide this important service, because if they didn't potential patients would only visit underground, unlicensed clinics.
A government clinic in Chang Mai is also keeping its doors open to those wanting to go under the knife.
Bangkok has become an international centre famous for sex change operations, breast augmentation, liposuction, and various types of plastic surgery, with transvestites from all over the Asia, and even the UK, Australia and the US visiting Thailand for transgender operations.
A local paper estimates that as many as 10,000 clinics and 300 private hospitals in Thailand offer sex change operations, sometimes for as little as 4,000 baht or £64.
Dr Wetwisit admitted the operation could be dangerous. He said many clinics were unlicensed and that websites in the UK frequently warned people not to travel to Thailand for the operation.
But he said as a licensed physician, he had performed hundreds of sex change operations, without any complaints, since offering the procedure at his Pratunum Clinic four years ago.
His list of clients includes patients from the UK, including from Manchester, Australia, China, Vietnam and Cambodia.
Local media reports say the sex re-assignment surgery has become a routine operation and there are fears that it has become trendy among many young gay or transsexual men.
"Many youths may misunderstand the situation and see transgenderism as a fad. But the irreversible procedure may later become nothing but a grave mistake," warned Jetsada Taesombat from the South-East Asian Consortium on Gender, Sexuality and Health in an opinion piece in local paper, The Nation.
Dr Wetwisit said the solution was to issue a ban only for under-age boys.
He said if the health minister failed to revoke the ban, he would take the minister to the administrative court.
Thailand's plastic surgery clinics have vowed to defy a recent government ban on performing castrations, saying they will continue to offer sex change operations in the country famous for its "ladyboys".
Earlier this month, the Thai health minister, Chaiya Sasomsab, issued a directive banning the operation after rights groups complained about the botched castration of an under-age boy in the northern city of Chiang-Mai.
But in direct defiance of the ban, the chief surgeon at the Pratunum Clinic - one of Thailand's top transgender clinics in Bangkok - has called on anyone wanting a castration to come to his clinic.
"I want them to be happy with what they want to be, and will remove their unwanted organs," Dr Thep Wetwisit said.
Related Articles
Operations done abroad fail to cut it 19 Nov 2007
Thai government bans 'ladyboys' castration 03 Apr 2008
He also criticised the ban as ridiculous and dangerous.
"They have banned castrations but not sex change operations. But to do a sex change operation you have to remove the testes," he told The Telegraph.
He said many of the clinics in Bangkok would continue to provide this important service, because if they didn't potential patients would only visit underground, unlicensed clinics.
A government clinic in Chang Mai is also keeping its doors open to those wanting to go under the knife.
Bangkok has become an international centre famous for sex change operations, breast augmentation, liposuction, and various types of plastic surgery, with transvestites from all over the Asia, and even the UK, Australia and the US visiting Thailand for transgender operations.
A local paper estimates that as many as 10,000 clinics and 300 private hospitals in Thailand offer sex change operations, sometimes for as little as 4,000 baht or £64.
Dr Wetwisit admitted the operation could be dangerous. He said many clinics were unlicensed and that websites in the UK frequently warned people not to travel to Thailand for the operation.
But he said as a licensed physician, he had performed hundreds of sex change operations, without any complaints, since offering the procedure at his Pratunum Clinic four years ago.
His list of clients includes patients from the UK, including from Manchester, Australia, China, Vietnam and Cambodia.
Local media reports say the sex re-assignment surgery has become a routine operation and there are fears that it has become trendy among many young gay or transsexual men.
"Many youths may misunderstand the situation and see transgenderism as a fad. But the irreversible procedure may later become nothing but a grave mistake," warned Jetsada Taesombat from the South-East Asian Consortium on Gender, Sexuality and Health in an opinion piece in local paper, The Nation.
Dr Wetwisit said the solution was to issue a ban only for under-age boys.
He said if the health minister failed to revoke the ban, he would take the minister to the administrative court.
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Re: Thai surgeons reject cosmetic castration ban
Here's a link from BK, 2015, suggesting that the katoey business is doing well:
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/life/2015 ... 422854755/
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Thanyasa Tajinda is seen in Bangkok, Thailand, 4 December 2014. The 32-year-old plans to have male-to-female gender reassignment surgery next year. Photo: Bill Bredesen/dpa
BANGKOK (DPA) – As a plastic surgeon at Bangkok's Yanhee Hospital, Greechart Pornsinsirirak performs around 180 sex change operations a year. Over his career, the doctor has transformed thousands of men into women.
A former patient recently told him she has had five boyfriends since her operation and "none of them knew she was a man," says Greechart, with barely concealed pride.
Thailand has long been considered one of the world's leading destinations for gender reassignment surgery, largely due to its low-cost, high-quality medical care and its general open-mindedness about gender roles.
In addition to Yanhee, five other major hospitals and clinics in Thailand, along with dozens of smaller specialty clinics, offer male-to-female sex change surgery.
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Pornnaphat Choochart, 38, in Bangkok, Thailand, 4 December 2014. Photo: Bill Bredesen/dpa
"This is a ladyboy paradise," says Pornnaphat Choochart, 38, a Thai transgender female who underwent the procedure 10 years ago.
Thai society widely acknowledges the idea of a third gender, known as "kathoey." Although the group has struggled for legal recognition – transgender females are still identified as "mister" in their passports, for instance – the government is considering granting them formal distinction under the country's next constitution.
"I always believed I was a girl born into the wrong body," Pornnaphat says. "My relatives all treated me as a girl."
Thipnara Petrapitchanon, 29, a former contestant of Miss Tiffany Universe, the international transgender pageant held each year in the local resort of Pattaya, feels similar. She had the surgery in 2010.
"I am much more confident now," she says. "I can wear a bikini with confidence, and when I look in the mirror I see a woman. Socially, people also treat me like a woman now."
Before being eligible for gender reassignment surgery in Thailand, patients must prove that they have been "living as a woman" for at least one year, Greechart says, including dressing like a woman and taking female replacement hormones.
Foreign patients also need to have a psychological evaluation in their home country, followed by two more evaluations by psychologists in Thailand, the surgeon says.
More than 80 per cent of Yanhee's sex change patients come from overseas, mostly from Korea, Japan and Taiwan, but also from Western countries, with demand among foreign patients rising sharply in recent years, Greechart says.
A male-to-female sex change operation at Yanhee – one of Thailand's best-known cosmetic surgery hospitals, where document runners glide through the hallways on roller skates – costs between 240,000 and 320,000 baht (around 7,300 to 10,000 dollars), depending on the surgical method used.
Smaller, less reputable clinics might charge as little as 45,000 baht (1,400 dollars). By comparison, sex change surgery in the United States usually costs more than 20,000 dollars.
Patients are typically bedridden for one week following surgery, and then remain in the hospital for a second week for monitoring.
Advanced skin grafting techniques used in Thailand and elsewhere allow patients to retain a high degree of physical sensation, and aesthetically, the "final product" appears natural.
"There's an art to it," Greechart says. "It looks like a real woman."
And perhaps of equal importance to many patients, the ability to achieve orgasm is not lost through the operation.
The actual procedure takes between three and eight hours, depending on whether the doctor performs a simple skin graft, or whether a more complicated colon graft is required, using part of the large intestine. The prostate is not removed.
Greechart says he regularly receives inquiries from patients who experienced "bad surgery" at other clinics, and who hope a more skilled doctor can correct it.
"Sex changes are not all the same," he says. "A lot are very bad."
Sitting in his hospital office, Greechart clicks through images of botched operations on his computer screen and describes them: "A urethra but nothing else … infections … scarring … any of these people are very sad. We can fix it, but it won't be like normal. I always prefer to do it the first time."
Hospitals that perform gender reassignment surgery also offer a host of related procedures, such as breast implants, voice-change surgery and laser hair removal, among others.
Female-to-male gender reassignment is possible, although much less common, and requires multiple procedures over many months.
Thanyasa Tajinda, 32, the managing director of a transgender performing artist and modeling agency, says she has dreamed of having gender reassignment surgery for years but that her family was not initially supportive. They have now given their consent, she says.
"I plan to do it, 100 per cent," she says. "I just need to find the time. I'm not afraid at all."
She is confident that her reaction will be similar to others who have undergone the transition.
"After I opened my eyes in the recovery room, I felt a bit cold, but I thought, 'I'm a new person now,'" recalls Pornnaphat. "And I was very happy."
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/life/2015 ... 422854755/
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Thanyasa Tajinda is seen in Bangkok, Thailand, 4 December 2014. The 32-year-old plans to have male-to-female gender reassignment surgery next year. Photo: Bill Bredesen/dpa
BANGKOK (DPA) – As a plastic surgeon at Bangkok's Yanhee Hospital, Greechart Pornsinsirirak performs around 180 sex change operations a year. Over his career, the doctor has transformed thousands of men into women.
A former patient recently told him she has had five boyfriends since her operation and "none of them knew she was a man," says Greechart, with barely concealed pride.
Thailand has long been considered one of the world's leading destinations for gender reassignment surgery, largely due to its low-cost, high-quality medical care and its general open-mindedness about gender roles.
In addition to Yanhee, five other major hospitals and clinics in Thailand, along with dozens of smaller specialty clinics, offer male-to-female sex change surgery.
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Pornnaphat Choochart, 38, in Bangkok, Thailand, 4 December 2014. Photo: Bill Bredesen/dpa
"This is a ladyboy paradise," says Pornnaphat Choochart, 38, a Thai transgender female who underwent the procedure 10 years ago.
Thai society widely acknowledges the idea of a third gender, known as "kathoey." Although the group has struggled for legal recognition – transgender females are still identified as "mister" in their passports, for instance – the government is considering granting them formal distinction under the country's next constitution.
"I always believed I was a girl born into the wrong body," Pornnaphat says. "My relatives all treated me as a girl."
Thipnara Petrapitchanon, 29, a former contestant of Miss Tiffany Universe, the international transgender pageant held each year in the local resort of Pattaya, feels similar. She had the surgery in 2010.
"I am much more confident now," she says. "I can wear a bikini with confidence, and when I look in the mirror I see a woman. Socially, people also treat me like a woman now."
Before being eligible for gender reassignment surgery in Thailand, patients must prove that they have been "living as a woman" for at least one year, Greechart says, including dressing like a woman and taking female replacement hormones.
Foreign patients also need to have a psychological evaluation in their home country, followed by two more evaluations by psychologists in Thailand, the surgeon says.
More than 80 per cent of Yanhee's sex change patients come from overseas, mostly from Korea, Japan and Taiwan, but also from Western countries, with demand among foreign patients rising sharply in recent years, Greechart says.
A male-to-female sex change operation at Yanhee – one of Thailand's best-known cosmetic surgery hospitals, where document runners glide through the hallways on roller skates – costs between 240,000 and 320,000 baht (around 7,300 to 10,000 dollars), depending on the surgical method used.
Smaller, less reputable clinics might charge as little as 45,000 baht (1,400 dollars). By comparison, sex change surgery in the United States usually costs more than 20,000 dollars.
Patients are typically bedridden for one week following surgery, and then remain in the hospital for a second week for monitoring.
Advanced skin grafting techniques used in Thailand and elsewhere allow patients to retain a high degree of physical sensation, and aesthetically, the "final product" appears natural.
"There's an art to it," Greechart says. "It looks like a real woman."
And perhaps of equal importance to many patients, the ability to achieve orgasm is not lost through the operation.
The actual procedure takes between three and eight hours, depending on whether the doctor performs a simple skin graft, or whether a more complicated colon graft is required, using part of the large intestine. The prostate is not removed.
Greechart says he regularly receives inquiries from patients who experienced "bad surgery" at other clinics, and who hope a more skilled doctor can correct it.
"Sex changes are not all the same," he says. "A lot are very bad."
Sitting in his hospital office, Greechart clicks through images of botched operations on his computer screen and describes them: "A urethra but nothing else … infections … scarring … any of these people are very sad. We can fix it, but it won't be like normal. I always prefer to do it the first time."
Hospitals that perform gender reassignment surgery also offer a host of related procedures, such as breast implants, voice-change surgery and laser hair removal, among others.
Female-to-male gender reassignment is possible, although much less common, and requires multiple procedures over many months.
Thanyasa Tajinda, 32, the managing director of a transgender performing artist and modeling agency, says she has dreamed of having gender reassignment surgery for years but that her family was not initially supportive. They have now given their consent, she says.
"I plan to do it, 100 per cent," she says. "I just need to find the time. I'm not afraid at all."
She is confident that her reaction will be similar to others who have undergone the transition.
"After I opened my eyes in the recovery room, I felt a bit cold, but I thought, 'I'm a new person now,'" recalls Pornnaphat. "And I was very happy."
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DR. Thep Vechavisit still perform castration at his Pratunam Polyclinic on for about US$180 no question asked.
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Dr. Thep requires a letter from a shrink now. He does ask questions. I called his clinic. With the letter you can quickly make an appointment. Getting the letter in Thailand should be not to hard I guess.
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Anyone have details or information about Mexico clinics? Any recommendations?
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If you search Youtube for human castration, there will be a clip from a clinic on the central Gulf of Mexico coast. Don't remember clinic name or city. Try Googling Mexico castration. There was, maybe is, a clinic that includes castrations in the list of services, in a western city like Guadalajara.
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Thanks Arab Nights. I am in touch with the one in Guadalajara. Just wondering if there were any others people had experience of.
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Paolo wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:26 pm Local media reports say the sex re-assignment surgery has become a routine operation and there are fears that it has become trendy among many young gay or transsexual men.
Why fears?
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Why fears?
Of course, Uncle Sam wants you to be soldiers.
Of course, Uncle Sam wants you to be soldiers.