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"There are some men who choose to have their penises and testicles removed, not because they identify as transgender or female, but because they experience a form of gender dysphoria that causes them not to identify with their genitals. Some of these men still feel male and still use masculine pronouns, but they find it difficult to locate doctors willing to conduct elective penectomies."There are some men who choose to have their penises and testicles removed (https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ ... e=vicefbus), not because they identify as transgender or female, but because they experience a form of gender dysphoria that causes them not to identify with their genitals. Some of these men still feel male and still use masculine pronouns, but they find it difficult to locate doctors willing to conduct elective penectomies.
These guys sometimes refer to themselves as nullos, smoothies or eunuchs, a word for castrated men that have performed a wide range of social functions as far back as 21st century BC. The Game of Thrones character Lord Varys, for example, is a eunuch, though his castration occurred involuntarily, as did that of other eunuchs throughout history. Some male singers known as castrati also used to have their genitals removed before puberty as a way to keep their vocal ranges high, though that doesnt apply to the men discussed in this article.
Its unclear how many modern men desire or have undergone voluntary castration, although some discuss their curiosities and journeys on various web forums. Others even self-castrate (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24709968), destroying their own testicles or injecting their genitals with toxic chemicals if they cant access a doctor wholl perform a full penectomy.
One doctor, Dr. Curtis Crane, conducts such surgeries. He says that more surgeons should be open to doing the procedure since its well accepted among gender reassignment surgeons to remove the breasts of people assigned female at birth, even if those patients have no desire to undergo further hormone replacement therapy or fullytransition to a male identity.
Crane considers penectomies as medically necessary for men suffering from gender dysphoria. He will conduct the surgery if patients provide letters from two approving psychiatric specialists. The surgery re-routes the patients urethra out of their perineum. Afterwards, Crane advises patients to take hormone replacement therapy to help avoid depression and osteoporosis.
A 2014 study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24709968) on these men said that only 30% reveal their castration to their families and only 11% to their friends. Also, less than a third continue to identify as male after castration; most consider themselves to be gender neutral or agender (that is, having no gender at all) and a few eventually self-identify as female.
"There are some men who choose to have their penises and testicles removed, not because they identify as transgender or female, but because they experience a form of gender dysphoria that causes them not to identify with their genitals. Some of these men still feel male and still use masculine pronouns, but they find it difficult to locate doctors willing to conduct elective penectomies."There are some men who choose to have their penises and testicles removed (https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ ... e=vicefbus), not because they identify as transgender or female, but because they experience a form of gender dysphoria that causes them not to identify with their genitals. Some of these men still feel male and still use masculine pronouns, but they find it difficult to locate doctors willing to conduct elective penectomies.
These guys sometimes refer to themselves as nullos, smoothies or eunuchs, a word for castrated men that have performed a wide range of social functions as far back as 21st century BC. The Game of Thrones character Lord Varys, for example, is a eunuch, though his castration occurred involuntarily, as did that of other eunuchs throughout history. Some male singers known as castrati also used to have their genitals removed before puberty as a way to keep their vocal ranges high, though that doesnt apply to the men discussed in this article.
Its unclear how many modern men desire or have undergone voluntary castration, although some discuss their curiosities and journeys on various web forums. Others even self-castrate (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24709968), destroying their own testicles or injecting their genitals with toxic chemicals if they cant access a doctor wholl perform a full penectomy.
One doctor, Dr. Curtis Crane, conducts such surgeries. He says that more surgeons should be open to doing the procedure since its well accepted among gender reassignment surgeons to remove the breasts of people assigned female at birth, even if those patients have no desire to undergo further hormone replacement therapy or fullytransition to a male identity.
Crane considers penectomies as medically necessary for men suffering from gender dysphoria. He will conduct the surgery if patients provide letters from two approving psychiatric specialists. The surgery re-routes the patients urethra out of their perineum. Afterwards, Crane advises patients to take hormone replacement therapy to help avoid depression and osteoporosis.
A 2014 study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24709968) on these men said that only 30% reveal their castration to their families and only 11% to their friends. Also, less than a third continue to identify as male after castration; most consider themselves to be gender neutral or agender (that is, having no gender at all) and a few eventually self-identify as female.
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It's on Vice, too.
There are men who wish to become eunuchs in the classical definition. For them, removing the entire penis and testicles can be a remarkably fulfilling, relieving experience, even though they may still identify as male and use male pronouns. In their online enclaves, such people sometimes identify as "eunuchs," "nullos," or "smoothies." In the medical literature (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4721041/), they are referred to (https://www.sexualhealthvisual.com/Vide ... f_standard s_of_care_for_individuals_with_a_male_to_eunuch_ge nder_identity_disorder.html) as male-to-eunuchs, suffering from their own unique form of gender dysphoria.
Some of them journal their experiences in online forums, asking others around the world where they can go to have their penis and testicles totally removed, or plaintively debating historical research (http://www.ancient-origins.net/history/ ... ina-002524) about the iconic eunuchs of China who inhabited the Forbidden City and served the Emperor with great influence and esteem.
Read more: Witches Allegedly Stole Penises and Kept Them as Pets in the Middle Ages
Because of the scarcity of providers, the expense, and the taboo nature of the procedure, patients who seek penile amputation have few options. Men who are seeking to nullify their sex often go to great lengths to find someone who is willing to help them. "There are very few surgeons in the world who are comfortable with this," says Dr. Curtis Crane (http://brownsteincrane.com/), one of the nation's leading experts on penises. "I've done a few [full penectomies]. We get a few requests a year, and I think it's a good service to provide to the community."
Crane specializes in the treatment of transgender and gender nonconforming patients, providing everything from phalluses for female-to-male patients to vaginas for trans women. He is likely one of the only surgeons in the world who will provide nonbinary male patients with a full penectomy—and this, he says, is because of a social taboo and double standard in transgender medicine.
"I think it's a good service to provide to the community."
For example, Crane says that it is "well accepted" among surgeons who specialize in providing care to trans and gender nonconforming people that there is a subset of assigned-female-at-birth patients who "do not believe in a binary classification." These nonbinary individuals don't identify as men, but they still suffer from gender dysphoria. People in this group commonly "want the absence of female characteristics, such as breasts"—and this procedure is generally accessible for them, even if they don't want to go on Hormone Replacement Therapy, because surgeons who perform trans operations recognize their need.
"It's perfectly acceptable for a lot of us [surgeons] to go, 'OK, let's masculinize your chest even though you aren't fully transitioning,'" Crane says.
"Well, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander," he continues. "There are some patients that were born male who don't want to fully convert to becoming female, but they don't identify with their testicles, or they don't identify with their scrotum, or they don't identify with their phallus, but they still feel male; they want masculine pronouns. To me, it's a double standard to accept the gender fluid female, but not the gender fluid male."
The researchers define eunuchs as "biological males who have undergone voluntary castration for reasons other than male-to-female transsexualism," explaining that the taboo nature of these procedures lead "eunuch–wannabes" to "resort to self castration, castration by non-medical professionals, or self-inflicted testicular damage via injections of toxic substances." Because there are so few physicians willing to perform elective penectomies, "eunuch-wannabes" are forced to do it themselves, sometimes using cattle clamps and rings to aid their excision, or to try and find someone else will will perform the procedure for them.
Eunuchs are a secretive subculture. "According to one survey of voluntarily castrated males who identified themselves as eunuchs, only 30 percent and 11 percent had divulged this fact to close friends and family, respectively," Johnson and Irwig's study reads. Many eunuchs seem to identify as male, but others, as Crane indicated, find their identities to be less clearly defined. The study notes that "after castration, less than one-third of eunuchs continue to consider themselves as male, most consider themselves to be nether ale nor female, and a few identify themselves as female."
"What's good for the goose is good for the gander."
Of course, Crane wouldn't provide this treatment to just anyone. He follows a typical standard for patients seeking gender confirming surgeries, requiring two letters from psychiatric specialists who approve of the patient's desire, and need, to be castrated, to have their penis removed, or both. Crane says that, for some people, these treatments are truly medically necessary—which shouldn't be shocking if we can accept the medical necessity of other gender affirmative surgical procedures.
Today, Crane says, it is possible to completely remove both the entire penis and the testicles/scrotum, while rerouting the urethra down to an individual's perineum. Afterwards, patients should be taking hormone supplements. "It's not good to have no sex hormones. You get depressed; you get osteoporosis; you have no sex drive. You need either estrogen or testosterone." Most of Crane's patients begin taking a regimen of testosterone injections after their penis and testicles has been severed.
To some critics, the idea of removing an organ responsible for the primary production of testosterone in the male body, only to begin taking testosterone supplements, is illogical. However, Crane says that this is simply a misunderstanding of who these patients are, and what they need. "They don't identify with that body part—it's not that they want to have osteoporosis and be depressed. Fortunately there's a way to remove that body part and still fulfill the [body's necessary hormonal] function."
Crane says that most of patients who have this surgery live their lives as men and then, after having their penis and testicles removed, leave to continue living their lives more or less the same way. The outside world likely will never have any idea that these individuals have no genitalia.
Though the patients who seek a radical penectomy and orchiectomy vary, Dr. Curtis Crane says that they're "kind of their own category" within our classifications of known gender identities. It's just that we have not yet accepted them. "Society has a lot of issues with men wanting to castrate themselves or remove their penis," Crane said. "They just don't like it."
Transgender medical treatment is more widely accepted today, but surgeries remains fixed along binary lines. There are some men who don't conform to either male or female—they just want their penis and testicles totally removed.BullGator (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:20 am https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ ... e=vicefbus
(https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ ... e=vicefbus)
There are men who wish to become eunuchs in the classical definition. For them, removing the entire penis and testicles can be a remarkably fulfilling, relieving experience, even though they may still identify as male and use male pronouns. In their online enclaves, such people sometimes identify as "eunuchs," "nullos," or "smoothies." In the medical literature (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4721041/), they are referred to (https://www.sexualhealthvisual.com/Vide ... f_standard s_of_care_for_individuals_with_a_male_to_eunuch_ge nder_identity_disorder.html) as male-to-eunuchs, suffering from their own unique form of gender dysphoria.
Some of them journal their experiences in online forums, asking others around the world where they can go to have their penis and testicles totally removed, or plaintively debating historical research (http://www.ancient-origins.net/history/ ... ina-002524) about the iconic eunuchs of China who inhabited the Forbidden City and served the Emperor with great influence and esteem.
Read more: Witches Allegedly Stole Penises and Kept Them as Pets in the Middle Ages
mbqjap/witches-allegedly-stole-penises-and-kept-them-as-pets-in-the-middle-ages)
Because of the scarcity of providers, the expense, and the taboo nature of the procedure, patients who seek penile amputation have few options. Men who are seeking to nullify their sex often go to great lengths to find someone who is willing to help them. "There are very few surgeons in the world who are comfortable with this," says Dr. Curtis Crane (http://brownsteincrane.com/), one of the nation's leading experts on penises. "I've done a few [full penectomies]. We get a few requests a year, and I think it's a good service to provide to the community."
Crane specializes in the treatment of transgender and gender nonconforming patients, providing everything from phalluses for female-to-male patients to vaginas for trans women. He is likely one of the only surgeons in the world who will provide nonbinary male patients with a full penectomy—and this, he says, is because of a social taboo and double standard in transgender medicine.
"I think it's a good service to provide to the community."
For example, Crane says that it is "well accepted" among surgeons who specialize in providing care to trans and gender nonconforming people that there is a subset of assigned-female-at-birth patients who "do not believe in a binary classification." These nonbinary individuals don't identify as men, but they still suffer from gender dysphoria. People in this group commonly "want the absence of female characteristics, such as breasts"—and this procedure is generally accessible for them, even if they don't want to go on Hormone Replacement Therapy, because surgeons who perform trans operations recognize their need.
"It's perfectly acceptable for a lot of us [surgeons] to go, 'OK, let's masculinize your chest even though you aren't fully transitioning,'" Crane says.
"Well, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander," he continues. "There are some patients that were born male who don't want to fully convert to becoming female, but they don't identify with their testicles, or they don't identify with their scrotum, or they don't identify with their phallus, but they still feel male; they want masculine pronouns. To me, it's a double standard to accept the gender fluid female, but not the gender fluid male."
by Thomas W. Johnson and Michael S. Irwig explored "the hidden world of self-castration and testicular self-injury," shedding light on the methods that people seeking castration resort to when they don't have access to professional surgical care. Though Johnson and Irwig wrote exclusively on castration, and not penectomy, their analysis of medical data on eunuchs is relevant to the broader group of men who seek these procedures.BullGator (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:20 am A 2014 study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24709968)
The researchers define eunuchs as "biological males who have undergone voluntary castration for reasons other than male-to-female transsexualism," explaining that the taboo nature of these procedures lead "eunuch–wannabes" to "resort to self castration, castration by non-medical professionals, or self-inflicted testicular damage via injections of toxic substances." Because there are so few physicians willing to perform elective penectomies, "eunuch-wannabes" are forced to do it themselves, sometimes using cattle clamps and rings to aid their excision, or to try and find someone else will will perform the procedure for them.
Eunuchs are a secretive subculture. "According to one survey of voluntarily castrated males who identified themselves as eunuchs, only 30 percent and 11 percent had divulged this fact to close friends and family, respectively," Johnson and Irwig's study reads. Many eunuchs seem to identify as male, but others, as Crane indicated, find their identities to be less clearly defined. The study notes that "after castration, less than one-third of eunuchs continue to consider themselves as male, most consider themselves to be nether ale nor female, and a few identify themselves as female."
"What's good for the goose is good for the gander."
Of course, Crane wouldn't provide this treatment to just anyone. He follows a typical standard for patients seeking gender confirming surgeries, requiring two letters from psychiatric specialists who approve of the patient's desire, and need, to be castrated, to have their penis removed, or both. Crane says that, for some people, these treatments are truly medically necessary—which shouldn't be shocking if we can accept the medical necessity of other gender affirmative surgical procedures.
Today, Crane says, it is possible to completely remove both the entire penis and the testicles/scrotum, while rerouting the urethra down to an individual's perineum. Afterwards, patients should be taking hormone supplements. "It's not good to have no sex hormones. You get depressed; you get osteoporosis; you have no sex drive. You need either estrogen or testosterone." Most of Crane's patients begin taking a regimen of testosterone injections after their penis and testicles has been severed.
To some critics, the idea of removing an organ responsible for the primary production of testosterone in the male body, only to begin taking testosterone supplements, is illogical. However, Crane says that this is simply a misunderstanding of who these patients are, and what they need. "They don't identify with that body part—it's not that they want to have osteoporosis and be depressed. Fortunately there's a way to remove that body part and still fulfill the [body's necessary hormonal] function."
Crane says that most of patients who have this surgery live their lives as men and then, after having their penis and testicles removed, leave to continue living their lives more or less the same way. The outside world likely will never have any idea that these individuals have no genitalia.
Though the patients who seek a radical penectomy and orchiectomy vary, Dr. Curtis Crane says that they're "kind of their own category" within our classifications of known gender identities. It's just that we have not yet accepted them. "Society has a lot of issues with men wanting to castrate themselves or remove their penis," Crane said. "They just don't like it."
BullGator (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:20 am (https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ ... e=vicefbus)
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I was the interviewed doctor's first patient for this. He's only been doing the surgeries since 2015.
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Interesting reading. Society doesn t like men voluntarily cutting off their balls and dicks. But western cultures sure do like and encourage men to get vasectomies, develop male birth control methods, remain childless, and cut off or chemicaly neuter men s balls at the first signs of any possibilities of testicular or prostate cancer. And the same people love circumcising healthy penises of unwilling infants for no reason. Randomly selective male sex organ cutting ideas without much valid reasoning behind any of it huh? But only some cutting needs any reasons to be accepted or forced on males.
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While the article is in fact germain to this site, the name is misleading, and no mention of Unicorns was made. False Advertising, I tell you!
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cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:53 pm Interesting reading. Society doesn t like men voluntarily cutting off their balls and dicks. But western cultures sure do like and encourage men to get vasectomies, develop male birth control methods, remain childless, and cut off or chemicaly neuter men s balls at the first signs of any possibilities of testicular or prostate cancer. And the same people love circumcising healthy penises of unwilling infants for no reason. Randomly selective male sex organ cutting ideas without much valid reasoning behind any of it huh? But only some cutting needs any reasons to be accepted or forced on males.
I agree but disagree with you. Honestly, I believe that society has in fact been figuratively "castrating" men and criminalizing masculine behavior in men for at least the past fifty years. Don't even get me started on the innumerable examples of school curricula being tailored for girls and specifically away from boys, men being unfairly treated by our courts, society in general, the media, etc. etc., the few men who do voice any objection at all are ridiculed, at the same time women being hailed and cheered on incessantly. Like I said, "don't even get me started" because I would rant for hours about it.
So, when men do find practical solutions to the plethora of problems and obstacles in their way, in this case elective surgical or chemical castration, you would think that this would not be so dimly viewed by society and the law, but the current social mantra for men is "you can't win for losing!" or "this is the 21st century! Woman power! You're gonna hear me roar!" EVERYTHING is being intentionally made more difficult for men in any of the "advanced" (i.e. western) countries. I have found that oddly enough, the most strident arguments against castrations and vasectomies always come from women. Most men have an attitude of "it's not what I want for myself but if any other man wants to get castrated then fine for him." I have noticed that even the hard line Christian "bible thumper" sorts conspicuously have ignored the original meaning of the bible verse Mathew 19:10-12 (basically "let him who can accept being a eunuch, accept it...") Most every recent printing of the Christian bible has had this verse re-worded and the forbidden word "eunuch" changed to "men who chose not to be married" or some other intentional mistranslation.
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A secretive sub-culture? Are they kidding? Society allows no secrets. In fact it seems that society is hell bent on insuring that everybody knows every dirty little thing about everybody else on the concept "we have a right to know" bullshit. Nobody has a right to anything other than taking their next breath of air.
Any right we may or may not have we make for our individual self. Often taking it away from somebody else.
This article was written to make somebody feel good about what they are doing and for no other reason. I was able to find a surgeon to make me completely eunuch in 1995 with no regret. He was happy to help with my issue in order to add to his bank account. It was a simple business deal for him as it should be with any other medical professional today. It is this so called social perception that society demands to be in control of each individuals life rather than the individual being in control of their own life. If society ever finds a way to attend to their own affairs we will all be the happier for it. It is no longer anybodies business of whether or not I cut off my male organs as it is of a CIS woman removing her female reproductive organs in order to improve what she considers her happiness in some form. The article is correct in one thing for sure. There is a HUGE double standard in treating male issues to treating the female issues with regard to "my body my choice" or "stop telling me how to take care of my body" from the pro-abortion feminist movement. How about we all just live and let live happily ever after?
Any right we may or may not have we make for our individual self. Often taking it away from somebody else.
This article was written to make somebody feel good about what they are doing and for no other reason. I was able to find a surgeon to make me completely eunuch in 1995 with no regret. He was happy to help with my issue in order to add to his bank account. It was a simple business deal for him as it should be with any other medical professional today. It is this so called social perception that society demands to be in control of each individuals life rather than the individual being in control of their own life. If society ever finds a way to attend to their own affairs we will all be the happier for it. It is no longer anybodies business of whether or not I cut off my male organs as it is of a CIS woman removing her female reproductive organs in order to improve what she considers her happiness in some form. The article is correct in one thing for sure. There is a HUGE double standard in treating male issues to treating the female issues with regard to "my body my choice" or "stop telling me how to take care of my body" from the pro-abortion feminist movement. How about we all just live and let live happily ever after?
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Dr. Curtis Crane might have an increase in inquires after this article. It's nice to know that some are very open about doing these surgeries. I suspect that in the future it'll get easier to ask for and obtain a gender neutral surgery: removal of all male sex organs.
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cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:53 pm Interesting reading. Society doesn t like men voluntarily cutting off their balls and dicks. But western cultures sure do like and encourage men to get vasectomies, develop male birth control methods, remain childless, and cut off or chemicaly neuter men s balls at the first signs of any possibilities of testicular or prostate cancer. And the same people love circumcising healthy penises of unwilling infants for no reason. Randomly selective male sex organ cutting ideas without much valid reasoning behind any of it huh? But only some cutting needs any reasons to be accepted or forced on males.
I say, its your body, do as you wish with it. No one should have the right to say what you can or cannot do to it.
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