Give No T a try

[msucleoscar (imported)]

So I'm on HRT since I had my testicles removed last September, finally decide to try live without T, supposed to do a shot yesterday, 'missed' it. I'm thinking about go without T for 5~6 weeks. At the same time workout hard to keep as much muscle mass as I can and try not to gain fat. Keep a very close eye on my nipples(hate to grow breast tissue). Anyway I'll keep everyone updated

[sparkey49 (imported)]

I went 2.5 years no T and wish that I wouldn't have needed to go on T.

[ambiguous (imported)]

Thanks let us know how you get on.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

No T is a very good feeling. (There are many warnings about what might happen so keep in touch with the medical professional.)

It's also seems worth noting that only recently was it even possible to replace the eunuch's T. Many eunuchs have and continue to live to a ripe old age with no T. It was, of course, how eunuchs were expected to be.

Nipple growth? Minimal and anyway, there are many folks with much more and it doesn't even get a mention.

Tell us how it works you.

[Hash (imported)]

Living without testosterone as a nullo is always a plus, however, for some of us, depression is often the negative. Many eunuchs who strive and try to live without adding back testosterone experience a deep blackness that's hard to deal with. I have this problem when I stop using T. I also have recently been told that my bones are getting smaller as a result of low testosterone. I use a low dose regimen, have for years. Now my doctor wants me to increase my testosterone to bring up my levels which may increase my bone density. Osteoporosis is also a risk for eunuchs. So, though I like living without testosterone, there are risks to consider.

[russianboy (imported)]

May be estradiol instead testosterone to prevent depression?

[Varys2013 (imported)]

I was chemically castrated by Lupron for three years. I lost a lot of bone density, from normal to almost osteoporosis in less than 2 years. The first 6 months were pretty easy, though my male equipment shrank a lot. The next 6 months were rough, with onset of some depression due to a confluence of factors including lack of T. Anti-depressant helped for a year or so, then got off of that. It's very hard to live without testosterone, let me assure anyone doubting that. Hot flashes, fatigue, brain fog, no sex life at all, no ability, no interest. No interest really in much of anything at all. It is not an easy life.

I've been off of that now for a year and a half, and doing well. Oddly a little breast growth happened after T recovered! Apparently, the return of T is too much, and my body converted the excess to estrogen; my breasts became tender, and got some glandular growth in there. Anyway, most symptoms have resolved, though still some occasional hot flashes (one a night, one or two a day, may be permanent?). If I have to go back on it due to medical necessity, it will be permanent. I'm planning on surgical castration at that point, and there won't be any hope of ever having testosterone again. It's a sobering thought.

I'll request estradiol patches for the hot flashes, and maybe to help with osteoporosis. Some say that it is effective for both. If I get even bigger breasts from that, so be it. I'm not going to fight it.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

No T for me feels good, without depression so far. Do I ever feel depressed? Probably as much or as little as anyone else, but it is hard to blame the No T, as it doesn't seem related in time. I've never needed medication or help for it.

My T is usually T cypionate, which is a very slow release preparation, so the T falls slowly when the injections stop. Perhaps it gives me time to adjust. Flashes are my signal that I am at virtually no T, but it takes many weeks. At that point I feel social but not sexual, relaxed and more productive in work and leisure. Concentration, focus seem easier.

I guess that means that I have moved from the male camp, but even if feel in some middle zone, I don't feel in any way female.

How am I perceived? I don't know, but I think most males seem not to notice, but I think the moment I hit lowest T, my odor changes, with the loss of skin grease, the ladies continue friendly but do not seem interested in a sexual dimension. Pheromones seem powerful things.

All in all, I have to agree with Tugon, that it is a fine space to live in.

[msucleoscar (imported)]

Guys, thanks for your reply. Tomorrow will be week two without T, so far everything still works fine, still get an erection pretty easy. Started to have a lack of energy feeling--sleepy all the time, the day before yesterday I slept for about 11 hours. I'll say so far so good

[nvrgag44 (imported)]

I was chemically castrated by Lupron for three years. I lost a lot of bone density, from normal to almost osteoporosis in less than 2 years. The first 6 months were pretty easy, though my male equipment shrank a lot. The next 6 months were rough, with onset of some depression due to a confluence of factors including lack of T. Anti-depressant helped for a year or so, then got off of that. It's very hard to live without testosterone, let me assure anyone doubting that. Hot flashes, fatigue, brain fog, no sex life at all, no ability, no interest. No interest really in much of anything at all. It is not an easy life.

I've been off of that now for a year and a half, and doing well. Oddly a little breast growth happened after T recovered! Apparently, the return of T is too much, and my body converted the excess to estrogen; my breasts became tender, and got some glandular growth in there. Anyway, most symptoms have resolved, though still some occasional hot flashes (one a night, one or two a day, may be permanent?). If I have to go back on it due to medical necessity, it will be permanent. I'm planning on surgical castration at that point, and there won't be any hope of ever having testosterone again. It's a sobering thought.

I'll request estradiol patches for the hot flashes, and maybe to help with osteoporosis. Some say that it is effective for both. If I get even bigger breasts from that, so be it. I'm not going to fight it.

IMO, Lupron is poison. I was on it for a year and a half as part of the treatment for prostate cancer. I posted plenty here on EA about my dislike for it so I don't want repeat myself. Try searching my past posts if you're interested.

I was castrated almost 2 years ago and haven't had any TRT. I also haven't had any of the miserable side effects I had while on Lupron.