... is, you don't need drugs for chemical castration.
They are not good for the health because they are doing too much.
For chemical castration is testosterone itself the best option! Wondering? ... but yes, it is!
If you are using external Testosterone your HPTA axis will shut down and you will don't produce Testo with your testicles anymore.
This also is working on low doses of external T. so your Levels will go extremely down, but you will have enough Testosterone for healthy life.
But the level is so low, you will have the effects which cause normally antiandrogenes.
I don't know about E2 levels, but I think, with very low T. they shuldn't be higher then normal.
It was taking a while and much experiments but now I know it and suggest you to try that, if you are ready for a permanent shutdown.
I'm now on TRT with normal T. levels (I don't need low level) and feeling extremely good and my overboarding libido is a bit lower and comfortable.
The only thing, I have to fight against the very high E2 but with using Aromasin it's very good.
If I don't would use the AI I would get female breasts but I would don't like that and also the libido with high E2 is shut down completely and also erections are nearly impossible (my experience after a short period of high E2 because a leak of AI available).
I think, its the better option, if you are ready to making your balls permanent out of function.
ambiguous (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:40 am
I'm sold on the stuff although it can make your balls ache at times.
I would try the testo gel first but more stable results are from injectables .
Ive actually found just the opposite. One tends to cycle up and down with injectables. The gel is a daily rub on, gives you a day's supply. Keeps things smooth and even.
Clearly posted by a person who doesn't know what they're talking about, at least if the goal of what most people who chemically castrate themselves want to achieve is desired.
kristoff wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:15 pm
Ive actually found just the opposite. One tends to cycle up and down with injectables. The gel is a daily rub on, gives you a day's supply. Keeps things smooth and even.
I am on a twice weekly thing (Inject every 3 1/2 days) and it keeps things stable for me.
However I have read that some therapists give one big shot that is supposed to last you a month and then send you on your way.
We are all made differently so I guess that's why there is more than one product to choose from..
In reply to the original post although your natural production may be shut down whilst on TRT it will recover once you come off it.
You may feel pretty crap for a month or two but it isn't a one way trip.
In my case my T levels were low to start with and they probably wont go back to where they were.
There are two schools of thought in the bodybuilding community weather to go on a post cycle regimen or just go "Cold Turkey" should you decide to come off this.
However I am far from getting the "Eunuch Calm" on TRT well at least I am getting a good nights sleep:D.
I just love the fact that this stuff has brought me back to where I was 5 years ago and if in make my nuts shrink than that's an added bonus.
Guys, this is a complicated subject. Testosterone does not castrate! So if you actually want castration due to reasons such as gender identity, or body dysphoria, testosterone is not the solution. Of course you may still need some TRT to keep healthy, but that is the opposite of castration (basically it makes you "less castrated").
Now, if you're seeking castration to control libido, there is some merits to trying steroids to achieve this. However, you need to be very knowledgable. I've used steroids for decades and feel competent to speak on this, so here's my advice.
Actual testosterone (usually provided as injectable esthers like test ethanate, cypionate, decathanate, etc.) will increase your libido. Yes your balls may shrink if the dose is high, but your blood level of free testosterone will be higher than normal and you'll be horny. However, some people may have experienced reduced libido on pure testosterone and that is due to a process called "aromatization" where the excess testosterone is actually converted to estrogen. This causes female body changes like breast enlargement and body fat increases. Unless you want to be feminized, this is an undesirable effect. So if you're using testosterone you really must use an aromatase inhibitor or a SERM. Aromatase inhibitors stop the process of conversion, while SERMS block the estrogen receptors. So things like Arimidex, Tamoxifen, Raloxifene, Aromasin, etc. should always be taken with testosterone. However, your libido is going to be generally higher, so this isn't probably great path for reducing libido.
Now, if you use high dose testosterone for a while your balls shrink and get used to not making testosterone (since your body decides it doesn't need any more). But this only really affects you if you stop taking the testosterone. Then there is a period called "post-cycle" where your body won't make testosterone. In that period your libido will certainly be suppressed and you are effectively castrated. However, it only lasts for a couple weeks. If you want to avoid this you need something useful for "post-cycle therapy" which is usually something like Clomid.
Now there are are other steroids which are modification of DHT, which is the converted testosterone that older guys get (it is the trigger for male-pattern baldness, prostate disease, etc.). These vary in their effect on libido based on their androgenic rating. Basically each steroid has an anabolic rating and an androgenic rating. An androgenic rating of 100 means it acts equivalent to testosterone. Higher rating will make you stronger, and also hornier. So something like Halotestin is going to make you horny. So if you want to use one of these, you can experiment with those that have low androgenic ratings. For example Superdrol has rating of 25. Your libido will drop on these.
So you can find steroids that will reduce libido. However, there are several possible other negative side effects. You really shouldn't run any steroid for more than half a dozen weeks at a time. With injectable steroids you have various risks. The injections themselves have risk because you're injecting something that you really don't know the quality of (you really want to inject something you bought off the internet?) along with standard risks like infection, hitting a vein, causing a fistula, etc. Furthermore, most of them raise your blood pressure significantly. Oral steroids seem safer but unfortunately they are not because in order for the body to use them they have to be modified to not be filtered out by your liver, and this causes immense stress on the liver. Basically using something like Turinabol for more than four weeks is going to damage your liver severely. You really, really don't want to die of liver failure -- it is a horrible way to die.
Another problem with steroids is that they are illegal. I've never really had trouble, but potentially you face jail time for possession. Other medications, like SERMS, you're not really supposed to buy without prescription but you're really unlikely to be charged with a crime for possession. They are not classified as addictive.
Honestly, if you want to stay "manly" (i.e. you're not gender dysphoric) and you mainly seek castration to control an over-active libido, I suggest using a SERM. These are drugs that act like estrogen in good ways (like bone density) without acting like estrogen in bad ways (no breast growth). I recommend trying Raloxifene. It is a pill, inexpensive and easy to obtain, not really illegal, and is perfectly safe to take for rest of your life. I find it takes the edge off the libido.
Listen to ambiguous. He correct and testosterone in any form is a "controlled substance" and you'd need to have a script from your doctor unless you're buying it underground, but then you take the chance of getting caught and getting jailed. I don't think the gel will work as well as the injections, but ask some Body Builders what happens. You'll mess yourself up with lots of different physical issues, besides shrinking your testicles. You won't really experience "castrate levels" either, you'll experience the symptoms of steroids abuse and eventually end up with strange breasts. That's my 2 cents.
Hmm, ok, my experience is, that I'm on low dose testosteron enanthate I feel so like as I was using antiandrogens.
On higher dose I feel me absolute normal, so I can dose it and can fast switch between low and normal levels.
Impoetant is to use an AI, yes, otherwise your E2 will go very high and get breasts.
I don't think you will feel a difference betreen low level T and castrating level, but for the health it is better to hold the level a bit higher then nearly zero.
... but yes, it is!
