Can One's Gender Identity be Eunuch Before Surgery?

[Questioning (imported)]

SeekingLeaking and Paolo, I definitely agree that one can be a eunuch without having been clipped. I haven't been castrated yet, but I'm starting to refer to myself as a eunuch as part of my psychological preparation to go forward with the surgery. In fact, my journey has taken me to a place where I feel like I'm simultaneously comfortable identifying as eunuch, transgender, genderqueer, and male. It all depends on whether you're asking me--as Jesus put it--my biological sex, my gender identity, or my gender expression.

[Losethem (imported)]

You can't BE a eunuch until after you're clipped. You can have a eunuch identity before then. Hence the recently coined term MtE.

Frankly, I find people who call themselves eunuchs before they are eunuchs a bit annoying. I can understand the identity, but you are not one until you physically are. To me the word is physical, not mental.

[Peter47-NL (imported)]

I agree completely with Losethem. I can have a eunuch identity and saying a hundred times that I should be a eunuch, but in fact as long as I am not castrated, I'm not a eunuch. I will have to undergo the entire procedure of cutting off my testicles before I can call myself a eunuch.

The term eunuch is exclusively for our castrated brothers.

[Losethem (imported)]

The other reason I go with the physical standard, we have a lot of wankers hanging out in this community, They can SAY they are a eunuch but I'm not buying it. So long as those little buggers are attached and I can put a hand down and feel them on you, sorry Charlie... Since wanking is so common around this subject, it's a way for me to quantify whom I talk to. Prior to the snip you're a wannabe, at best.

[MikeGrant (imported)]

I know that last comment was a long time ago, any alteration, expansion in your definition? What state is someone who is chemically castrated?

[romuluso (imported)]

I do strongly believe that some men are not meant to have testicles. It's frustrating to know this about urself and not be able to do anything about it for the time being. For a long time I've felt I have a eunuch soul. But out of respect for the community I admire so much, until my body has been castrated, I won't consider myself a eunuch.

[seanthomas (imported)]

I am a "genuine" eunuch, as anyone who has read my personal blog can tell.

I am only defined as a eunuch because my testicles were removed. Before I lost the little guys, even though they were non-functional, I was not a eunuch but rather a hypo-gonadal male.

That said, I am a Libertarian and believe anyone can identify as whatever they choose as long as it does not harm anyone else. My only question is, how can you identify yourself as something that is defined as the absence of body parts (testicles) when you still posses those parts?

Funny thing....I don't identify myself as anything other than the same man without testicles that I was with testicles.

[Paolo]

I find this highly interesting. Note the view count on this thread. 8,642?

Replies: 16 (http://forums.eunuch.org/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=26458)

Views: 8,642

[MikeGrant (imported)]

Is that registered users, or do you think it pops up under a gender Google search or such like?

[Paolo]

If it does come up on searches (as Google doesn't like us), then it's far down the list of results. I doubt that such is the case, Mike.

Thanks.