The Neutersol Thread
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Re: The Neutersol Thread
Then I'll find some other sort of hosting for my reference material.
Since it's late, I'll start with the three or four PDFs I already know where I've stashed.
Neutersol: A Clinical Perspective (http://cl.ly/060j3T181s1l/JamesWeedon%2 ... 202009.pdf)
Neutersol Freedom of Information Summary (http://cl.ly/2j0g302G422b/Neutersol%20FOI.pdf)
Esterilsol Product Profile and Position Paper (http://cl.ly/1n2G3f2l370B/Esterilsol-Pr ... -Paper.pdf)
Training Manual for Esterilsol (http://cl.ly/081V1w281v2r/Training%20Ma ... rilsol.pdf)
Since it's late, I'll start with the three or four PDFs I already know where I've stashed.
Neutersol: A Clinical Perspective (http://cl.ly/060j3T181s1l/JamesWeedon%2 ... 202009.pdf)
Neutersol Freedom of Information Summary (http://cl.ly/2j0g302G422b/Neutersol%20FOI.pdf)
Esterilsol Product Profile and Position Paper (http://cl.ly/1n2G3f2l370B/Esterilsol-Pr ... -Paper.pdf)
Training Manual for Esterilsol (http://cl.ly/081V1w281v2r/Training%20Ma ... rilsol.pdf)
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Re: The Neutersol Thread
Calcium Chloride and Everclear work with between 2 & 3 injections depending on your T Levels. I think it is far safer than this experiment. If you do it properly it works.
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If you want to turn everything off, sure.
But there's subtlety to be had, here.
By varying the concentration of CaCl solution, at a constant injection volume proportional to body mass, you can decide just how fixed you want to be:
There's more to steroid hormones than testosterone, as I've learned here, and there should probably be more than four protocols. And the subtle differences in their results well-characterized, so you can get the exact result you want. For instance, the one test with homebrew zinc gluconate solution produced a complete, if temporary, end to chronic nut pain. I've heard nothing about calcium chloride or ethanol in regards to orchialgia, just reducing libido.
Of course, no conventional ethics committee would begin to consider making a statistically significant number of eunuchs with multiple methods and comparing the long-term effects and differences, so all I've got to work with is animal data.
If we can put together statistically significant groups among those who've taken some initiative, we can start looking into an informal, if rigorous, comparison of the popular methods.
Efficacy is already proven, safety is …LINK TO A BANNED SITE WAS POSTED!already known to be questionable, at best, but that hasn't stopped quite a few people, and I'm not going to encourage anyone to do anything they might regret (or hurt themselves doing). But I think we should consider writing a survey.
I think the first three questions should be:
What method did you use?
What did you want to get out of it?
Did you get it?
I also think this deserves its own thread.
And I'm just going to leave this here: Even if neutersol and its derivatives are only a "chemical vasectomy" by our standards, globally there's probably a fairly huge market for chemical vasectomy.
But there's subtlety to be had, here.
By varying the concentration of CaCl solution, at a constant injection volume proportional to body mass, you can decide just how fixed you want to be:
There's more to steroid hormones than testosterone, as I've learned here, and there should probably be more than four protocols. And the subtle differences in their results well-characterized, so you can get the exact result you want. For instance, the one test with homebrew zinc gluconate solution produced a complete, if temporary, end to chronic nut pain. I've heard nothing about calcium chloride or ethanol in regards to orchialgia, just reducing libido.
Of course, no conventional ethics committee would begin to consider making a statistically significant number of eunuchs with multiple methods and comparing the long-term effects and differences, so all I've got to work with is animal data.
If we can put together statistically significant groups among those who've taken some initiative, we can start looking into an informal, if rigorous, comparison of the popular methods.
Efficacy is already proven, safety is …LINK TO A BANNED SITE WAS POSTED!already known to be questionable, at best, but that hasn't stopped quite a few people, and I'm not going to encourage anyone to do anything they might regret (or hurt themselves doing). But I think we should consider writing a survey.
I think the first three questions should be:
What method did you use?
What did you want to get out of it?
Did you get it?
I also think this deserves its own thread.
And I'm just going to leave this here: Even if neutersol and its derivatives are only a "chemical vasectomy" by our standards, globally there's probably a fairly huge market for chemical vasectomy.
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Re: The Neutersol Thread
jcat (imported) wrote: Thu May 15, 2014 12:25 am Calcium Chloride and Everclear work with between 2 & 3 injections depending on your T Levels. I think it is far safer than this experiment. If you do it properly it works.
Also worth pointing out, Everclear's not available in this state.
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Re: The Neutersol Thread
ZeuterMe (imported) wrote: Tue May 20, 2014 5:44 pm Also worth pointing out, Everclear's not available in this state.
Look for a vodka -- clear and white and without flavor -- that is something like 150 proof or higher. It's not as strong but will serve the same function.
Re: The Neutersol Thread
It might also be interesting to note that the makers of the real Neutersol wrote me and demanded we remove all stories, or the term, from the EA.
I told them to fuck off.
Also, please take the comments on alcohol/salt to the appropriate threads.
Thank you.
I told them to fuck off.
Also, please take the comments on alcohol/salt to the appropriate threads.
Thank you.
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Re: The Neutersol Thread
Paolo, I appreciate your support. Whether you realize it or not, you're supporting academic freedom. 
Arc Sciences, if you're reading this, I suggest you consider a clinical trial for treatment-resistant orchialgia whose only alternative treatments are surgical in nature. After all, how much worse can you make things? If it works as well as CaCl salts and produces results faster, (and all the animal studies suggest this is true) you could pretty much get FDA approval simply by proving it reliably won't kill the patient.
Arc Sciences, if you're reading this, I suggest you consider a clinical trial for treatment-resistant orchialgia whose only alternative treatments are surgical in nature. After all, how much worse can you make things? If it works as well as CaCl salts and produces results faster, (and all the animal studies suggest this is true) you could pretty much get FDA approval simply by proving it reliably won't kill the patient.
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Re: The Neutersol Thread
Medical supply houses will have medical grade Ethanol which is "Everclear". All Everclear is 200 prof ethanol. White 151 rum will also work.
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Re: The Neutersol Thread
Here's the thing - if I'm suffering torsion-related effects, if we run down the protocol, orchiectomy is at the end of the list.
Alcohol injections offer the exact same result, but it takes longer and hurts more.
Neutersol offers both the potential for reduced dependence on hormone supplements, and the potential for advancing science. Or at least contributing to improving Arc Science's injection protocol, and saving a great many dogs a great deal of discomfort.
If used under medical supervision, the worst side effect I can reasonably expect is…LINK TO A BANNED SITE WAS POSTED!surgical orchiectomy. If you follow that logical thread, can you see why I'm not interested in everclear and calcium?
Alcohol injections offer the exact same result, but it takes longer and hurts more.
Neutersol offers both the potential for reduced dependence on hormone supplements, and the potential for advancing science. Or at least contributing to improving Arc Science's injection protocol, and saving a great many dogs a great deal of discomfort.
If used under medical supervision, the worst side effect I can reasonably expect is…LINK TO A BANNED SITE WAS POSTED!surgical orchiectomy. If you follow that logical thread, can you see why I'm not interested in everclear and calcium?