Testerone doubles risk of heart attack in over 65s?

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Seems another investigation has just shown the link between testosterone and heart attacks, a doubling of the risk in the over 65s.

Given that old farts keel over from heart attacks far too frequently anyway, this seems of interest:

http://www.newsinferno.com/heart-attack ... udy-finds/

It is indeed good to be a eunuch?

[tugon (imported)]

When I hear about all those hormone supplement clinics I have to wonder if there was not a good reason we were designed to drop in levels. I will be interested in the consequences of everyone who is trying to remain youthful forever. Working with the elderly I often hear I am tired of living. I think the soul tires regardless of the condition of the body. I have no interest in living to a very old age regardless of how my body is. If I live as long as my dog I will be happy.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

We hope and trust that Corky is planning for an unusually long and happy innings!

T levels drop naturally, and maybe TRT folk should also drop levels to the least that is compatible with the mental and physical health of the individual?

My PCP always checks my T level against a standard range, taking no account of increasing birthdays. I'm due for another annual visit soon, so I'll try to remember to ask about it.

[butterflyjack (imported)]

I'd love to drop my T levels by orchiectomy...Then perhaps, I'll live to be 110...ball-less and happy...Jackie

[devi (imported)]

Even more glad that I had declined testosterone therapy!!!

[coinflipper_21 (imported)]

I'll take my chances with the testosterone. By the time my father reached my age he had three open heart surgeries. He ended up having four, including a valve replacement and a few catheterization procedures for good measure. (He died of of pneumonia not heart failure.) I have not had any such difficulties. Of course, if I ever do have a heart attack it will probably be massive and kill me immediately. If that happens I hope it's at the height of an orgasm with someone I find really exciting. (I do warn anyone I have sex with of the possibility and not to feel badly if it happens.)

[tugon (imported)]

The test if I read it correctly were talking about men who had normal testosterone levels for men their age but were adding T to raise their levels further. I doubt the test considered men at castrate levels. Taking T with nonfunctioning testicles or no testicles would be similar to a single dose where someone producing T and then taking T would be like a double dose. I think it is the higher than normal levels that contributes to the heart issues.

[loveableleopardy (imported)]

You mean to say that there may actually be a health benefit to taking Androcur longterm?

Even if it's just a suggestion, at least it's a positive one on that front. Just got to avoid the blood clots, osteoporosis and so forth

[A-1 (imported)]

Let us see...

Late night TV and "AGELESS MALE" (http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=148.0) commercials?

I would bet that this stuff shuts your testosterone factory DOWN thus addicting you to the stuff...

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Maybe so.

But it is true that the study looked at the effect of extra T. Is the adverse heart effect of T dose-related, and so this study might suggest that lowering below normal might increase longevity from heart disease? They didn't look at it, but I believe there is some not very statistically robust accounts to suggest that eunuchs last longer, but why? Connecting the two is a stretch, but maybe possible?