Hi Everybody, I'm New and Full of Questions

[ReginaRosalie (imported)]

I am not 100% sure if I belong here, but I do think you guys, ladies, and nullified guys might be able to answer some questions for me.

I'm a bio-female pro-Domme from Chicago. I've been working in the adult industry in varying capacities for the past six years, and in that time I've encountered a LOT of submissive males. A lot of these submissive males have had castration fantasies, and that is fun, fine, and dandy. Recently a client got in touch with me asking to attend his very real castration. He has tracked down a medical professional who is willing and able to perform the operation, has a date set, and everything.

Now, I'm very interested, both personally and professionally, in the whole procedure. I love the idea of seeing a man castrated before my eyes, and I love the money I'll be making for my time. However, I pride myself on being a responsible dominant. Does anyone know what risks (other than the obvious, blood loss, &c) this gentleman faces, what the legal risk is for me, as an observer, and what I can do to minimize risk for everyone involved? Do any nutless slaves have experience serving a mistress after the big chop, and if so, how is the servitude affected by the lack of libido that comes from castration.

I have asked to be put in touch with the person performing the gentleman's castration, and I intend to ask this person if they've ever performed such an operation, what method they plan to use (burrdizzo, elastrator, testectomy, something else) and the safety precautions they plan to take, but is there anything else I should be asking about? Castration as anything more than a fantasy, while a longstanding interest of mine, is totally new to me and I want to be as safe and sane as possible. The consent should go without saying.

Thanks in advance, and sorry if all these questions are in the wrong section.

Regards,

Rosalie

[C&TL2745 (imported)]

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He has tracked down a medical professional who is willing and able to perform the operation, has a date set, and everything.....I have asked to be put in touch with the person performing the gentleman's castration, and I intend to ask this person if they've ever performed such an operation, what method they plan to use (burrdizzo, elastrator, testectomy, something else) and the safety precautions they plan to take, but is there anything else I should be asking about?....

You've certainly come to the right place for answers. I'm not qualified to give them, but I will say this: If the "medical professional" says he uses either a burdizzo or elastrator bands, encourage your guy to find someone else, as the "medical professional" is probably a quack. Those methods are designed for farm animals, not people, and they are the sort of thing guys resort to when the cannot find a qualified physician to do the job. From all I've read here, I believe both can result in severe complications, and I have a hard time imagining that a real medical professional would use them.

But I have no actual experience with castration, so others here may be able to give better advice. I'm here to learn as well.

Sandi

[tugon (imported)]

I am sure you will receive lots of good advice. I agree that anyone using the burdizzo or elastrator is not a medical professional. Legally I think you might be at risk if the person is operating without a license and things go wrong. Another thought I had is if he is castrated and does not use a Testosterone replacement you may lose a client as his levels drop along with his interests.

[fhunter]

I am not 100% sure if I belong here, but I do think you guys, ladies, and nullified guys might be able to answer some questions for me.

I'm a bio-female pro-Domme from Chicago. I've been working in the adult industry in varying capacities for the past six years, and in that time I've encountered a LOT of submissive males. A lot of these submissive males have had castration fantasies, and that is fun, fine, and dandy. Recently a client got in touch with me asking to attend his very real castration. He has tracked down a medical professional who is willing and able to perform the operation, has a date set, and everything.

Now, I'm very interested, both personally and professionally, in the whole procedure. I love the idea of seeing a man castrated before my eyes, and I love the money I'll be making for my time. However, I pride myself on being a responsible dominant. Does anyone know what risks (other than the obvious, blood loss, &c) this gentleman faces, what the legal risk is for me, as an observer, and what I can do to minimize risk for everyone involved? Do any nutless slaves have experience serving a mistress after the big chop, and if so, how is the servitude affected by the lack of libido that comes from castration.

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Regards,

RosalieThe risks - for you they were already outlined:

* Legal issues (would not go there, I am not familiar with USA legal system).

* You can potentially lose the client, cause, without testosterone, he will probably lose sex drive to some extent.

For him, if he chooses not to use HRT:

Short term:

* Hot flashes (they can still persist even with HRT)

* Mood swings

Medium/long term:

* Weight gain (in case of not watching the diet)

* Loss of energy

* Loss/lessening of sex drive

* Osteoporosis (can be prevented with low level HRT)

* Depression

* Lack of upper body strength

* Potential of getting diabetes (there is correlation between low T and diabetes).

That is what I remember from the top of the head.

And, by consensus of the members here, HRT does not always fully restore sex drive.

Oh, the last risk: Understanding that it was not what he wanted.

[ReginaRosalie (imported)]

Thanks you guys! I'm meeting with him tonight, som I'm going to discuss some of these things with him.

I did suspect that elastrator and burrdizzo castration was probably not the best idea, to say the least, but I have read accounts online by people who claim to have had success. I still hope that's not what he's opting for.

As to losing a client, he seems pretty set on the idea and I don't think my involvement or lack thereof will dissuade him, so it's a risk I'm willing to take (so long as I have assurance that the medical professional he had found is using safe methods. I also hope I get a chance to speak to this person, as I want to make sure their motives are pure, or at least purely capitalistic.

Once again, I really appreciate the help, and if I do end up attending the procedure, I'll be sure to post about it for the edification of all.

[fhunter]

Thanks you guys! I'm meeting with him tonight, som I'm going to discuss some of these things with him.

I did suspect that elastrator and burrdizzo castration was probably not the best idea, to say the least, but I have read accounts online by people who claim to have had success. I still hope that's not what he's opting for.

As to losing a client, he seems pretty set on the idea and I don't think my involvement or lack thereof will dissuade him, so it's a risk I'm willing to take (so long as I have assurance that the medical professional he had found is using safe methods. I also hope I get a chance to speak to this person, as I want to make sure their motives are pure, or at least purely capitalistic.

Once again, I really appreciate the help, and if I do end up attending the procedure, I'll be sure to post about it for the edification of all.

Elastrator works in theory. Unfortunately, theory and practice are a bit different. Not to say that it would be extremely painful past some point in the range of 30minutes to 1 hour. If one survives the pain and does not get a blood clot in process, there are two outcomes:

1. Just like in the stories: it falls off by itself. Unfortunately, to fall of, tissues need to die, and that is a smelly process. Not to say long.

2. Cut it off after some time - saves one from the smelly outcome, but leaves a gaping wound and a potential of bands slipping off.

Burdizzo just was not designed for humans. First it needs to be applied properly, and that is a feat in itself, and then human spermatic cords are not as brittle, as the cattle's. So it is a hit and miss. Also painful.

I personally played a bit with zip ties (not an elastrator, but can be considered close). I had enough after about 20-30 minutes (± it was some time ago and I do not remember clearly). I can not imagine tolerating that amount of pain for 8-12 hours.

In theory, there are threads about alcohol and calcium chloride injections (use the search), but official position here is: "you are doing it at your own risk, we do not recommend it, and you will visit the doctor anyway".

PS. There was at least one real horror story here from injecting some substance in the testicles.

PPS. Nice avatar

[janekane (imported)]

"Medical Professional" is a remarkably non-specific descriptive term. Is a dentist a medical professional? Is a medical laboratory assistant a medical professional? Is an X-ray technician a medical professional?

When I set out, starting in 1984, to locate a doctor who was properly trained and licensed, in pursuit of my orchiectomy, the main purpose of which was reduce cancer risk (many of my close relatives have died from cancer from an inherited (genetic) condition or have had effective cancer-preventive surgeries), it made no sense to me to undergo any sort of risky surgery to prevent cancer risk; trading one sort of risk for another, perhaps even more threatening, simply did not fit into my plans for a decent chance for living a fairly long and worthwhile life.

And, back then, I did consult a proper psychiatrist to establish very clearly that my orchiectomy was mainly done to reduce my cancer risk; my being somewhere within the multi-dimensional transgender spectrum was a convenience, yet, for me, not of it self, proper cause for undergoing surgery. And I did find a urologist who, while unwilling to actually do the orchiectomy, did tell me how I could go about finding a doctor who would, and did, do it.

Not all "medical professionals" have doctor degrees, not all medical professionals who have doctor degrees are physicians and surgeons.

[ReginaRosalie (imported)]

I personally played a bit with zip ties (not an elastrator, but can be considered close). I had enough after about 20-30 minutes (± it was some time ago and I do not remember clearly). I can not imagine tolerating that amount of pain for 8-12 hours.

I've played with an Elastrator, as well as garden-variety rubber bands for castration play and heavy CBT, but in my experience you're absolutely right that most men can't take that kind of pain for a prolonged period of time. The longest I've ever seen someone wear an elastrator band is a bit over a half hour, and even that was pushing it. I'm hoping that this person is both a qualified surgeon or at least a former veterinarian, and plans to use a surgical method, because the more I learn, the less safe other methods appear.

P.S. Thanks, that's me, pirate teeth and all.

[ReginaRosalie (imported)]

Oh, I am all too aware of this fact. As it stands I do not yet know exactly where, on the wide spectrum, this medical professional's exact profession falls. My client is a smart man, though, so I don't see him hiring someone completely unqualified to perform such a delicate and risky surgery, though.

[tugon (imported)]

Fantasies can turn into obsessions and obsessions can grow and satisfying obsessions can breed resentment. I hope he does not resent all involved.